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It's a sin . 13:55 - Feb 25 with 722 viewsbwildered

Deliberately fouling players who have gained a advantage through skill or get into positive positions to score are continually being prevented by the act of taking one fo the team, which usually results in a booking to the player.
Twice in the second half within minutes on Saturday the vistors took one for the team, this was also present in yesterday's League Cup final.
With only a yellow card at present being the punishment for this practice, most team have gained a advantage in foul play.
So it's time too go down the rugby route, booking AND TEN MINUTES IN THE SIN BIN to give a advantage to the side disadvantaged.

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It's a sin . on 21:16 - Feb 25 with 687 viewsburnsieespana

Agree Rugby with the sin bin for similar offences has got it right.
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It's a sin . on 12:53 - Feb 26 with 663 viewswessex_exile

It's a sin . on 21:16 - Feb 25 by burnsieespana

Agree Rugby with the sin bin for similar offences has got it right.


I would wonder whether 10 minutes in a sin bin would be sufficient deterrent? In rugby, numerical supremacy in a very physical encounter definitely is an advantage, but would it be in football? Most teams can shamelessly time-waste and shut up shop for 10 minutes, and we all know how hard it can be to break down 10 men for an entire game, never mind 10 minutes. Personally, I'd rather professional fouls were treated as nothing less than cheating, and worth a straight red.

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It's a sin . on 14:01 - Feb 27 with 629 viewsbwildered

Anything is better than nothing, two Carlisle players were booked within minute in the second half, while the U's pressed hard for a equaliser, hence punishment could have been to play with nine men.
Notice that serial showstopper Sergio Ramos, has been charged with deliberately fouling to avoid playing in second leg in Chumps league for Real Madrid, perhaps a five match ban would be appropriate.
And while on my gripe box, points deductions AND fines for should become more the norm, and like rugby physio can come on to treat players while play is not stopped, managers to only stay in dugouts only and what happened regards half the team surrounding the ref ?
It's now time for the authorities in each of the competitions, not to turn a blind eye in players clubs bringing the game into disrepute, and start tidying up the sport .

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It's a sin . on 19:13 - Feb 27 with 610 viewswessex_exile

It's a sin . on 14:01 - Feb 27 by bwildered

Anything is better than nothing, two Carlisle players were booked within minute in the second half, while the U's pressed hard for a equaliser, hence punishment could have been to play with nine men.
Notice that serial showstopper Sergio Ramos, has been charged with deliberately fouling to avoid playing in second leg in Chumps league for Real Madrid, perhaps a five match ban would be appropriate.
And while on my gripe box, points deductions AND fines for should become more the norm, and like rugby physio can come on to treat players while play is not stopped, managers to only stay in dugouts only and what happened regards half the team surrounding the ref ?
It's now time for the authorities in each of the competitions, not to turn a blind eye in players clubs bringing the game into disrepute, and start tidying up the sport .


I do agree - even if sin-binning has a marginal effect on a match outcome, it is still better than nothing. You have, however, reminded me that I'm sure there's a rule that if a team lost enough players during a match (injury and/or red cards) it had to be declared a no-contest and abandoned - anyone else help with this?

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It's a sin . on 19:22 - Feb 27 with 608 viewsLeadbelly

It's a sin . on 19:13 - Feb 27 by wessex_exile

I do agree - even if sin-binning has a marginal effect on a match outcome, it is still better than nothing. You have, however, reminded me that I'm sure there's a rule that if a team lost enough players during a match (injury and/or red cards) it had to be declared a no-contest and abandoned - anyone else help with this?


If a team has fewer than 7 players the game would be abandoned

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It's a sin . on 19:28 - Feb 27 with 605 viewsmfb_cufc

It's a sin . on 19:22 - Feb 27 by Leadbelly

If a team has fewer than 7 players the game would be abandoned


This actually happened in March 2002 when West Brom played Sheff Utd

In March 2002 West Bromwich Albion played at Sheffield United in a match that has since become known as The Battle of Bramall Lane. This was in the second tier of the English football leagues. Sheffield United's goalkeeper was sent off early in the game, and West Bromwich scored twice. In the 65th minute, a Sheffield United substitute, Georges Santos, was sent off almost immediately after coming on to the field. He had made a dangerous tackle on Andy Johnson, and it has been alleged that he had a revenge motive for an incident between the players earlier in their careers. A third Sheffield United player, Suffo, was sent off in the resulting melée. West Bromwich scored a third goal and Sheffield United used all three substitutes before an injury to Brown reduced them to seven men. Another injury left them with six, and the referee immediately and correctly abandoned the game with a few minutes to go. The authorities confirmed the result as 0-3, as it stood at the time of the abandonment, and fined Sheffield United. WBA Manager Gary Megson accused his counterpart Neil Warnock of directing a player to feign injury. However, both Santos and Suffo never played for the club again and Brown did not play again that season.

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It's a sin . on 19:34 - Feb 27 with 603 viewsLeadbelly

It's a sin . on 19:28 - Feb 27 by mfb_cufc

This actually happened in March 2002 when West Brom played Sheff Utd

In March 2002 West Bromwich Albion played at Sheffield United in a match that has since become known as The Battle of Bramall Lane. This was in the second tier of the English football leagues. Sheffield United's goalkeeper was sent off early in the game, and West Bromwich scored twice. In the 65th minute, a Sheffield United substitute, Georges Santos, was sent off almost immediately after coming on to the field. He had made a dangerous tackle on Andy Johnson, and it has been alleged that he had a revenge motive for an incident between the players earlier in their careers. A third Sheffield United player, Suffo, was sent off in the resulting melée. West Bromwich scored a third goal and Sheffield United used all three substitutes before an injury to Brown reduced them to seven men. Another injury left them with six, and the referee immediately and correctly abandoned the game with a few minutes to go. The authorities confirmed the result as 0-3, as it stood at the time of the abandonment, and fined Sheffield United. WBA Manager Gary Megson accused his counterpart Neil Warnock of directing a player to feign injury. However, both Santos and Suffo never played for the club again and Brown did not play again that season.


Colin accused of skulduggery...surely not!

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It's a sin . on 07:54 - Feb 28 with 581 viewsnoah4x4

Sadly, "Taking one for the team" has become a legitimate tactic. If a clear goal scoring opportunity, it's a red card. That's why Courtney Senior is now repeatedly being hacked down outside of the penalty box. What it needs is stronger refereeing.

In rugby, after persistent foul play, a referee will call the captain's together and announce next offence, even if perpetrated by a previously innocent player will be red carded. In effect, taking just one for the team equals yellow. Taking two for the team equals red after such a referees warning, even if it is the perpetrators FIRST offence. Other forms of cheating similar. Yellow card for a dive. General referees warning issued "next incidence of blatant cheating by anybody on that team equal red". Would soon (IMHO) clean up the game, unlike short term sin binning.
[Post edited 28 Feb 2019 7:55]
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