| Coming to a head - Preview on 14:56 - Dec 8 with 3028 views | daveB |
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| Coming to a head - Preview on 14:59 - Dec 8 with 3008 views | PinnerPaul |
Well written but doesn't do much for the mood (That's not a criticism, more a sad observation) |  | | |
| Coming to a head - Preview on 15:01 - Dec 8 with 3000 views | Northernr |
| Coming to a head - Preview on 14:59 - Dec 8 by PinnerPaul |
Well written but doesn't do much for the mood (That's not a criticism, more a sad observation) |
It was never going to be jelly and ice cream was it? |  | | |
| Coming to a head - Preview on 15:04 - Dec 8 with 2982 views | Antti_Heinola |
Very good job Norf.
I have been wondering in idler moments about Cameron being a Trumper and hoping he wasn't on the conspiracy end of it and wondering if he was, what effect that might be having too... Ugh. |  |
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| Coming to a head - Preview on 15:05 - Dec 8 with 2975 views | PinnerPaul |
| Coming to a head - Preview on 15:01 - Dec 8 by Northernr |
It was never going to be jelly and ice cream was it? |
you could have focussed on.......................................................................
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| Coming to a head - Preview on 15:05 - Dec 8 with 2972 views | BrianMcCarthy |
Brilliant. As expected.
Sorry to be missing tonight's game. Hope we do ourselves proud. |  |
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| Coming to a head - Preview on 15:06 - Dec 8 with 2968 views | Mick_S |
| Coming to a head - Preview on 15:05 - Dec 8 by BrianMcCarthy |
Brilliant. As expected.
Sorry to be missing tonight's game. Hope we do ourselves proud. |
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| Coming to a head - Preview on 15:08 - Dec 8 with 2951 views | PinnerPaul |
| Coming to a head - Preview on 15:04 - Dec 8 by Antti_Heinola |
Very good job Norf.
I have been wondering in idler moments about Cameron being a Trumper and hoping he wasn't on the conspiracy end of it and wondering if he was, what effect that might be having too... Ugh. |
I don't think footballers care really.
Said it before who would have thought Jamie Mackie and Clint Hill would be bessie mates with Joey Barton ......still! | | | |
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| Coming to a head - Preview on 15:08 - Dec 8 with 2949 views | Phildo |
The thought of this stuff leaking into my club, my lovely unfaithful whore of a club, the club of Paul Parker, Devon White, Bob Hazell, Les Ferdinand and a number of other lifetime heroes makes me very sad. [Post edited 8 Dec 2020 15:08]
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| Coming to a head - Preview on 15:15 - Dec 8 with 2897 views | W12Mikey |
Agree with everything you say, except repeating the lazy trope about the allegedly racist Daily Mail. I haven't gone back to look up what they said about Sterling and Foden but as I recall they're fairly evenhanded in berating players for bad behaviour whatever their colour. And Martin Samuel's piece in the Mail today about Millwall etc, though far too verbose, is not saying anything much different from what you are.
And while we're on actions speaking louder than words, which paper outed the killers of Stephen Lawrence and put on the pressure that eventually resulted in at least a couple of convictions? Clue - it wasn't the virtue-signallers' favourite the Guardian | | | |
| Coming to a head - Preview on 15:47 - Dec 8 with 2799 views | TheChef |
Very good Clive, not an easy one.
No Cameron Fact today? |  |
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| Coming to a head - Preview on 15:57 - Dec 8 with 2764 views | Northernr |
| Coming to a head - Preview on 15:47 - Dec 8 by TheChef |
Very good Clive, not an easy one.
No Cameron Fact today? |
As I say, we've left the funnies out completely. It didn't feel right to write that intro, and then just crack straight on with Rooney gags and what have you. Normal service for Friday. | | | |
| Coming to a head - Preview on 15:58 - Dec 8 with 2758 views | WokingR |
| Coming to a head - Preview on 15:57 - Dec 8 by Northernr |
As I say, we've left the funnies out completely. It didn't feel right to write that intro, and then just crack straight on with Rooney gags and what have you. Normal service for Friday. |
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| Coming to a head - Preview on 16:04 - Dec 8 with 2738 views | TheChef |
| Coming to a head - Preview on 15:58 - Dec 8 by WokingR |
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| Coming to a head - Preview on 16:23 - Dec 8 with 2674 views | Noelmc |
Great piece Clive. Tone just right - although I miss the funnies, it was appropriate to leave them out.
Maybe in light of his social media postings, it may also be a good idea to call time on the "Geoff Cameron Facts" and replace them with say, "Albert Adomah Facts" - he seems to be a bit of a character. |  | | |
| Coming to a head - Preview on 16:23 - Dec 8 with 2673 views | OldPedro |
A very well written piece |  |
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| Coming to a head - Preview on 16:28 - Dec 8 with 2656 views | TheChef |
| Coming to a head - Preview on 16:23 - Dec 8 by Noelmc |
Great piece Clive. Tone just right - although I miss the funnies, it was appropriate to leave them out.
Maybe in light of his social media postings, it may also be a good idea to call time on the "Geoff Cameron Facts" and replace them with say, "Albert Adomah Facts" - he seems to be a bit of a character. |
Has Geoff posted something offensive?
Just because he's a Trump supporter and thinks there might be some electoral fraud (who knows if there is or not?) he can be dismissed because his politics doesn't match with yours? | |
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| Coming to a head - Preview on 17:01 - Dec 8 with 2576 views | francisbowles |
Yes, a very good write up Clive.
If they had a balllot, then hopefully it will be a better crowd tonight. Let's hope the atmosphere is a lot better and the game is the other big winner. | | | |
| Coming to a head - Preview on 17:15 - Dec 8 with 2516 views | St_Pollock |
| Coming to a head - Preview on 16:28 - Dec 8 by TheChef |
Has Geoff posted something offensive?
Just because he's a Trump supporter and thinks there might be some electoral fraud (who knows if there is or not?) he can be dismissed because his politics doesn't match with yours? |
There's someone on Twitter - can't remember his name now - who stopped supporting us because Karl Henry was a Tory...
Our online presence as a fanbase is unbelievably embarrassing at times: both left and right btw... |  | | |
| Coming to a head - Preview on 17:32 - Dec 8 with 2460 views | stevec |
| Coming to a head - Preview on 16:28 - Dec 8 by TheChef |
Has Geoff posted something offensive?
Just because he's a Trump supporter and thinks there might be some electoral fraud (who knows if there is or not?) he can be dismissed because his politics doesn't match with yours? |
I was with you Clive, all the way, until you jumped the shark with the Cameron comment.
Why ruin it by showing your own intolerance? Bit of a shame that. |  | | |
| Coming to a head - Preview on 17:39 - Dec 8 with 2440 views | Northernr |
| Coming to a head - Preview on 17:32 - Dec 8 by stevec |
I was with you Clive, all the way, until you jumped the shark with the Cameron comment.
Why ruin it by showing your own intolerance? Bit of a shame that. |
"I was totally with you there, until you said something bad about my side, so now the whole piece is ruined. What a shame."
You're rather proving my point there. You're on the right, you think Trump is great, so anybody who dares to suggest that it's maybe not ideal for the captain of a club that is currently trying to walk a very delicate and nuanced position through a highly emotive and controversial issue to be using his social media channels to pedal conspiracy theories about the US election (not support for Trump, conspiracy theories about a democratic election) is "intollerant" and a "shame".
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| Coming to a head - Preview on 17:41 - Dec 8 with 2431 views | denhamhoop2 |
Great piece of writing and showing just how divide and conquer politics on both sides of the pond is seeping into everyday life. Life very rarely is pure Black and White(Intentional Pun) yet somehow much of the media portrays this as being the case.
The Millwall booing thread on here is a case in point.
For me the kneeling for BLM is a token and allows Sky to pat itself on the back for its inherent wokeness I see it very much along the lines of wearing a poppy. It's a gesture to allow people who do very little to help themselves feel a little better about themselves | | | |
| Coming to a head - Preview on 17:51 - Dec 8 with 2390 views | stevec |
| Coming to a head - Preview on 17:39 - Dec 8 by Northernr |
"I was totally with you there, until you said something bad about my side, so now the whole piece is ruined. What a shame."
You're rather proving my point there. You're on the right, you think Trump is great, so anybody who dares to suggest that it's maybe not ideal for the captain of a club that is currently trying to walk a very delicate and nuanced position through a highly emotive and controversial issue to be using his social media channels to pedal conspiracy theories about the US election (not support for Trump, conspiracy theories about a democratic election) is "intollerant" and a "shame".
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Not at all.
I was just pointing out a gaping discrepancy in your otherwise well written piece on intolerance. | | | |
| Coming to a head - Preview on 18:00 - Dec 8 with 2356 views | terryb |
Not an easy read Clive, but a very well written preview. | | | |
| Coming to a head - Preview on 18:07 - Dec 8 with 2336 views | Noelmc |
| Coming to a head - Preview on 16:28 - Dec 8 by TheChef |
Has Geoff posted something offensive?
Just because he's a Trump supporter and thinks there might be some electoral fraud (who knows if there is or not?) he can be dismissed because his politics doesn't match with yours? |
Hardly “dismissed”, more moved on from as a source of a joke in the match previews. As a Rangers player, he will still have my support on the pitch.
No problem with him being a Trump Supporter, but helping peddle the electoral fraud conspiracy theory is fanning the flames of division rather than trying to unite people.
If wide-scale electoral fraud is ever proven, I will be happy to withdraw my suggestion. | | | |
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