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Ellis Simms is ten million pounds ? Not a chance ! 14:55 - Jul 3 with 4885 viewsSwansIndependent

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Ellis Simms is ten million pounds ? Not a chance ! on 14:57 - Jul 3 with 4108 viewsSTID2017

If he is £10 million then Piroe is worth an easy £20 million

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Ellis Simms is ten million pounds ? Not a chance ! on 14:58 - Jul 3 with 4102 viewsBadlands

If they are expecting that he won’t be going anywhere least of all to us.

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Ellis Simms is ten million pounds ? Not a chance ! on 15:00 - Jul 3 with 4093 viewsSTID2017

Ellis Simms is ten million pounds ? Not a chance ! on 14:58 - Jul 3 by Badlands

If they are expecting that he won’t be going anywhere least of all to us.


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Ellis Simms is ten million pounds ? Not a chance ! on 15:01 - Jul 3 with 4083 viewsKeithHaynes

Ellis Simms is ten million pounds ? Not a chance ! on 14:57 - Jul 3 by STID2017

If he is £10 million then Piroe is worth an easy £20 million


That’s what Corny says.

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Ellis Simms is ten million pounds ? Not a chance ! on 15:18 - Jul 3 with 4027 viewsSTID2017

Ellis Simms is ten million pounds ? Not a chance ! on 15:01 - Jul 3 by KeithHaynes

That’s what Corny says.


You been speaking to John Cornforth ?
You really do know all our legends !

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Ellis Simms is ten million pounds ? Not a chance ! on 15:18 - Jul 3 with 4007 viewsHugeEnkins

Reading that article makes EFC sound like they are fooked. It wouldn't look like a good move for Piroe at all.
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Ellis Simms is ten million pounds ? Not a chance ! on 15:34 - Jul 3 with 3971 viewsKeithHaynes

Ellis Simms is ten million pounds ? Not a chance ! on 15:18 - Jul 3 by HugeEnkins

Reading that article makes EFC sound like they are fooked. It wouldn't look like a good move for Piroe at all.


Financially they truely are mate.

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Ellis Simms is ten million pounds ? Not a chance ! on 16:09 - Jul 3 with 3847 viewsunion_jack

It’s not just the extortionate fee, it’s the wages. He’s on PL wages which we won’t pay anywhere near as much.

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Ellis Simms is ten million pounds ? Not a chance ! on 17:09 - Jul 3 with 3688 viewseddie71

Ellis Simms is ten million pounds ? Not a chance ! on 16:09 - Jul 3 by union_jack

It’s not just the extortionate fee, it’s the wages. He’s on PL wages which we won’t pay anywhere near as much.


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Ellis Simms is ten million pounds ? Not a chance ! on 17:32 - Jul 3 with 3611 viewsKeithHaynes

Ellis Simms is ten million pounds ? Not a chance ! on 16:09 - Jul 3 by union_jack

It’s not just the extortionate fee, it’s the wages. He’s on PL wages which we won’t pay anywhere near as much.


Ten million for an unproven striker, ok seven goals last season …
Compared to Piroe it’s like trading in the Mercedes for a Sierra.

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Ellis Simms is ten million pounds ? Not a chance ! on 17:33 - Jul 3 with 3584 viewsReslovenSwan1

Ellis Simms is ten million pounds ? Not a chance ! on 16:09 - Jul 3 by union_jack

It’s not just the extortionate fee, it’s the wages. He’s on PL wages which we won’t pay anywhere near as much.


PL wages are a huge range. Lower bound probably £15k-£20k a week. If Everton are paying £30k a week then he will not be moving anywhere outside the PL or Europe. I would guess £18k a week something like that which Swansea could afford.

Coleman and co will want to buy player that increase in value. Everton might accept a sell on clause to lower the original outlay

Swansea in general have done badly when signing higher asset players. Having cash to spend is a big risk. A lower risk would be a player like Assombalonga a 30 year old who will do a job score some goals but no sell on value ad probably will not high press.

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Ellis Simms is ten million pounds ? Not a chance ! on 18:51 - Jul 3 with 3430 viewsSullutaCreturned

Ellis Simms is ten million pounds ? Not a chance ! on 16:09 - Jul 3 by union_jack

It’s not just the extortionate fee, it’s the wages. He’s on PL wages which we won’t pay anywhere near as much.


That's the EPl for you, bang average and unproven players who are massively over valued and on stupid wages for unproven young men.

If we sold Piroe to Everton for 10 million and someone else enquired about him the price would be at least 25 million a day later. That's what the EPl does. A player there is automatically valued much higher.

If Piroe scored 20 goals for Everton he'd probably be valued at 50 million but if they got relegated then he'd be back down to 12-15. The value also changes depending on the parent club. A Man City player will always be worth more than if that same player was at Bournemouth.
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Ellis Simms is ten million pounds ? Not a chance ! on 19:38 - Jul 3 with 3334 viewsmax936

Ellis Simms is ten million pounds ? Not a chance ! on 14:57 - Jul 3 by STID2017

If he is £10 million then Piroe is worth an easy £20 million


It won't be in Dyche's eyes, if he does want Piroe Watson needs to be all over Dyche which I think he will be, hopefully Piroe won't make comments that may devalue any negotiations.

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Ellis Simms is ten million pounds ? Not a chance ! on 20:55 - Jul 3 with 3217 viewsguthrieintherain

Ellis Simms is ten million pounds ? Not a chance ! on 19:38 - Jul 3 by max936

It won't be in Dyche's eyes, if he does want Piroe Watson needs to be all over Dyche which I think he will be, hopefully Piroe won't make comments that may devalue any negotiations.


The best thing to come out of this for us is we will have a player potentially playing maybe 3 seasons for us.
Piroe will be gone next if we don't sell him for nothing

5 million plus Simms would not be a bad deal for us.
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Ellis Simms is ten million pounds ? Not a chance ! on 21:35 - Jul 3 with 3126 viewsmax936

Ellis Simms is ten million pounds ? Not a chance ! on 20:55 - Jul 3 by guthrieintherain

The best thing to come out of this for us is we will have a player potentially playing maybe 3 seasons for us.
Piroe will be gone next if we don't sell him for nothing

5 million plus Simms would not be a bad deal for us.
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Won't happen with Dyche there.

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Ellis Simms is ten million pounds ? Not a chance ! on 22:18 - Jul 3 with 3044 viewsReslovenSwan1

A swap makes sense. Both teams have a forward out of contract in 12 months.

Swansea will be losing £1m+ a month and Everton £0.75m a month if the players are not transferred.

Both, if they perform as expected immediately increase in value as they will have 3 year deals not 1 year deals.

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Ellis Simms is ten million pounds ? Not a chance ! on 11:24 - Jul 5 with 2711 viewsBadlands

Ellis Simms is ten million pounds ? Not a chance ! on 16:09 - Jul 3 by union_jack

It’s not just the extortionate fee, it’s the wages. He’s on PL wages which we won’t pay anywhere near as much.


Year ...Weekly Wage.. Yearly Salary Club. Position League
2022 ...£3,300 .............£171,600 .....Everton ST ......Sky Bet Championship

This was on Salary Spot website.

And from Vimbuzz
Ellis Simms has an estimated net worth of about €400,000. The young athlete currently earns a salary of £171 k per year playing for Everton as a Striker.

Capology lists his weekly pay as £7,000 (probably more realistic)
Piroe is listed as £11,923

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Ellis Simms is ten million pounds ? Not a chance ! on 11:35 - Jul 5 with 2680 viewsunion_jack

Ellis Simms is ten million pounds ? Not a chance ! on 11:24 - Jul 5 by Badlands

Year ...Weekly Wage.. Yearly Salary Club. Position League
2022 ...£3,300 .............£171,600 .....Everton ST ......Sky Bet Championship

This was on Salary Spot website.

And from Vimbuzz
Ellis Simms has an estimated net worth of about €400,000. The young athlete currently earns a salary of £171 k per year playing for Everton as a Striker.

Capology lists his weekly pay as £7,000 (probably more realistic)
Piroe is listed as £11,923


Wow, I’m surprised by that.

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Ellis Simms is ten million pounds ? Not a chance ! on 11:39 - Jul 5 with 2676 viewsDr_Winston

James Thomas was allegedly on three grand a week at Blackburn in the late 90's so I'd be surprised if Simms is earning that now. Closer to ten I'd imagine, which would be within our budget if we were looking at him as our main striker.

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Ellis Simms is ten million pounds ? Not a chance ! on 11:45 - Jul 5 with 2666 viewsWhiterockin

Ellis Simms is ten million pounds ? Not a chance ! on 11:24 - Jul 5 by Badlands

Year ...Weekly Wage.. Yearly Salary Club. Position League
2022 ...£3,300 .............£171,600 .....Everton ST ......Sky Bet Championship

This was on Salary Spot website.

And from Vimbuzz
Ellis Simms has an estimated net worth of about €400,000. The young athlete currently earns a salary of £171 k per year playing for Everton as a Striker.

Capology lists his weekly pay as £7,000 (probably more realistic)
Piroe is listed as £11,923


Your favourite transfermarkt have Simms valued at 4m euros, lets see how accurate that is. I don't believe any of the stats these websites state, be is salary or transfer value.
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Ellis Simms is ten million pounds ? Not a chance ! on 09:51 - Jul 6 with 2435 viewssw02sea

Ellis Simms is ten million pounds ? Not a chance ! on 11:45 - Jul 5 by Whiterockin

Your favourite transfermarkt have Simms valued at 4m euros, lets see how accurate that is. I don't believe any of the stats these websites state, be is salary or transfer value.


I know The Western Fail are involved in this article, but interesting anyways.

https://www.goodisonnews.com/2023/07/06/everton-in-significant-hunt-to-sign-joel
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Ellis Simms is ten million pounds ? Not a chance ! on 11:51 - Jul 6 with 2323 viewsWhiterockin

Ellis Simms is ten million pounds ? Not a chance ! on 09:51 - Jul 6 by sw02sea

I know The Western Fail are involved in this article, but interesting anyways.

https://www.goodisonnews.com/2023/07/06/everton-in-significant-hunt-to-sign-joel


Is there a sell on clause with Piroe?

If it is the case a part ex could really work for us. Sometimes you need to look beyond the headline figures to get the best financial deal. Didn't we do something similar with Spurs before to minimise the sell on payment.
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Ellis Simms is ten million pounds ? Not a chance ! on 12:31 - Jul 6 with 2268 viewsBadlands

Have Swans asked for £20 million for Piroe leading to Everton claiming Simms is worth £10 million and then offering Simms and £10 million for Piroe?

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Ellis Simms is ten million pounds ? Not a chance ! on 12:46 - Jul 6 with 2240 viewsguthrieintherain

Ellis Simms is ten million pounds ? Not a chance ! on 12:31 - Jul 6 by Badlands

Have Swans asked for £20 million for Piroe leading to Everton claiming Simms is worth £10 million and then offering Simms and £10 million for Piroe?


I think it's more of Everton wanting top price for their player and hoping to get Piroe on the cheap.

By all accounts they are totally skint with a new stadium to pay for.

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Ellis Simms is ten million pounds ? Not a chance ! on 13:56 - Jul 6 with 2139 viewsFireboy2

Ellis Simms is ten million pounds ? Not a chance ! on 12:31 - Jul 6 by Badlands

Have Swans asked for £20 million for Piroe leading to Everton claiming Simms is worth £10 million and then offering Simms and £10 million for Piroe?


I can't see us getting much plus simms for piroe, apparently he's on more than simms which could bring the transfer fee down.
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