| The Official Moldova Vs Wales International World Cup Qualifier Match Thread 22:19 - Sep 3 with 25934 views | jackharris |
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| The Official Moldova Vs Wales International World Cup Qualifier Match Thread on 22:27 - Sep 3 with 8535 views | EasternJack |
Stating the obvious - must win.
As an aside, thoughts on preferred result vs Ireland and Serbia? |  |
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| The Official Moldova Vs Wales International World Cup Qualifier Match Thread on 22:56 - Sep 3 with 8511 views | Borojack |
| The Official Moldova Vs Wales International World Cup Qualifier Match Thread on 22:27 - Sep 3 by EasternJack |
Stating the obvious - must win.
As an aside, thoughts on preferred result vs Ireland and Serbia? |
I think an Ireland win not looking good for qualification if we do finish 2nd.
Looks like it's between the runners up of Wales group and the 2nd placed team in the group with Greece and Bosnia in.
Also some really good sides likely to be in the play offs. |  |
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| The Official Moldova Vs Wales International World Cup Qualifier Match Thread on 23:15 - Sep 3 with 8484 views | Kerouac |
Of course it is a must win game for us on Tuesday... we don't want to draw with Moldova and have to beat Georgia away, we know that Georgia are a useful stubborn lot and will be the tougher game.
The big picture.
We don't want Ireland to win Tuesday...if this were to happen they would be on 19pts by the time they play us (they have Moldova at home inbetween Serbia and us), we'd have to win all 3 of ours to finish on 20pts...but then we might need to do that anyway in order to squeeze into the 9/10 highest 2nd place finishers.
If Ireland did beat Serbia on Tuesday, Serbia are certainly good enough to win their last 2 games, leaving them on 21pts.
So if Ireland win on Tuesday we will realistically need a clean sweep from our remaining 3 games just to finish 2nd on 20 points.
We want Serbia to get a result in Ireland Tuesday night, a draw is ok for us even.
That would leave us only needing to beat Moldova and draw with Georgia to put us a point or 2 behind Ireland when we face them in Cardiff (Monday night, the 9th of October)
Winner takes 2nd place! (WDW = only 18 point 2nd place though)
We might have to win them all...
Whatever happens, we will HAVE to beat Ireland. [Post edited 3 Sep 2017 23:16]
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| The Official Moldova Vs Wales International World Cup Qualifier Match Thread on 23:35 - Sep 3 with 8457 views | EasternJack |
| The Official Moldova Vs Wales International World Cup Qualifier Match Thread on 23:15 - Sep 3 by Kerouac |
Of course it is a must win game for us on Tuesday... we don't want to draw with Moldova and have to beat Georgia away, we know that Georgia are a useful stubborn lot and will be the tougher game.
The big picture.
We don't want Ireland to win Tuesday...if this were to happen they would be on 19pts by the time they play us (they have Moldova at home inbetween Serbia and us), we'd have to win all 3 of ours to finish on 20pts...but then we might need to do that anyway in order to squeeze into the 9/10 highest 2nd place finishers.
If Ireland did beat Serbia on Tuesday, Serbia are certainly good enough to win their last 2 games, leaving them on 21pts.
So if Ireland win on Tuesday we will realistically need a clean sweep from our remaining 3 games just to finish 2nd on 20 points.
We want Serbia to get a result in Ireland Tuesday night, a draw is ok for us even.
That would leave us only needing to beat Moldova and draw with Georgia to put us a point or 2 behind Ireland when we face them in Cardiff (Monday night, the 9th of October)
Winner takes 2nd place! (WDW = only 18 point 2nd place though)
We might have to win them all...
Whatever happens, we will HAVE to beat Ireland. [Post edited 3 Sep 2017 23:16]
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Good stuff.
I've taken it for granted that we have to win all 3 to have a chance. | |
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| The Official Moldova Vs Wales International World Cup Qualifier Match Thread on 00:00 - Sep 4 with 8435 views | raynor94 |
| The Official Moldova Vs Wales International World Cup Qualifier Match Thread on 23:35 - Sep 3 by EasternJack |
Good stuff.
I've taken it for granted that we have to win all 3 to have a chance. |
Even then it will be a small chance, we have drawn to many games, sickening if we finish ninth best second place team |  |
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| The Official Moldova Vs Wales International World Cup Qualifier Match Thread on 00:03 - Sep 4 with 8432 views | Kerouac |
| The Official Moldova Vs Wales International World Cup Qualifier Match Thread on 23:35 - Sep 3 by EasternJack |
Good stuff.
I've taken it for granted that we have to win all 3 to have a chance. |
As you can see we can finish 2nd with 2 wins and a draw, will all depend on the other groups, and I think you're right...we will most likely need to win them all (barring an epic breakdown by both Serbia and Ireland with some shock losses).
I'm keeping my fingers crossed for an Ireland/Serbia draw, followed by...
Ireland f*cking up and drawing at home to Moldova
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Serbia losing or drawing away to Austria (who could still qualify if they win all 3 of their games, so not so fanciful)...
- now Serbia would be on 16/17 points going into their last game at home to Georgia
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- Ireland would be on 15 points
- a win and a draw for Wales would put us on 15 points going into the Ireland game
- 2 wins for Wales would put us on 17 points
Conclusion
So finishing top is not that outlandish but we need Serbia to draw (Ireland) and lose (Austria) or at least draw twice...if Serbia beat Ireland we are fighting for 2nd place (an 18/20pt 2nd place)...if Ireland beat Serbia we will have to win the lot to come above Ireland (that could mean 1st place but we would again be counting on an epic f*ck up from Serbia, a 20pt 2nd place finish most likely).
Hopefully that helps somebody watching the game with one eye on Ireland/Serbia on Tuesday...might have confused myself! [Post edited 4 Sep 2017 0:06]
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| The Official Moldova Vs Wales International World Cup Qualifier Match Thread on 00:06 - Sep 4 with 8426 views | Joe_bradshaw |
The ranking of second place teams excludes results against the bottom team in each group.
May not make any difference if all second place teams do the double over the bottom teams but you never know... |  |
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| The Official Moldova Vs Wales International World Cup Qualifier Match Thread on 00:10 - Sep 4 with 8419 views | Kerouac |
| The Official Moldova Vs Wales International World Cup Qualifier Match Thread on 00:06 - Sep 4 by Joe_bradshaw |
The ranking of second place teams excludes results against the bottom team in each group.
May not make any difference if all second place teams do the double over the bottom teams but you never know... |
Loving f*ck!
Why have they done that?
None of us are going to know if we have qualified or not when the whistle goes on October the 9th...we'll need all the results from every group in order to be able to calculate it. | |
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| The Official Moldova Vs Wales International World Cup Qualifier Match Thread on 00:17 - Sep 4 with 8411 views | Joe_bradshaw |
| The Official Moldova Vs Wales International World Cup Qualifier Match Thread on 00:10 - Sep 4 by Kerouac |
Loving f*ck!
Why have they done that?
None of us are going to know if we have qualified or not when the whistle goes on October the 9th...we'll need all the results from every group in order to be able to calculate it. |
They've done it because some teams like Gibraltar are so bad that you get a guaranteed six points and a massive goal difference boost if you happen to get them in your group.
Contrast that with Belarus who are bottom of their group with 5 points from 8 games. | |
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| The Official Moldova Vs Wales International World Cup Qualifier Match Thread on 00:45 - Sep 4 with 8375 views | dailew |
| The Official Moldova Vs Wales International World Cup Qualifier Match Thread on 00:17 - Sep 4 by Joe_bradshaw |
They've done it because some teams like Gibraltar are so bad that you get a guaranteed six points and a massive goal difference boost if you happen to get them in your group.
Contrast that with Belarus who are bottom of their group with 5 points from 8 games. |
There were originally two groups with only 5 teams.
They subsequently added Gibraltar and Kosova. |  |
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| The Official Moldova Vs Wales International World Cup Qualifier Match Thread on 00:46 - Sep 4 with 8373 views | EasternJack |
| The Official Moldova Vs Wales International World Cup Qualifier Match Thread on 00:17 - Sep 4 by Joe_bradshaw |
They've done it because some teams like Gibraltar are so bad that you get a guaranteed six points and a massive goal difference boost if you happen to get them in your group.
Contrast that with Belarus who are bottom of their group with 5 points from 8 games. |
Finally found a site that shows current status of runner ups...
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_FIFA_World_Cup_qualification_(UEFA)#Ranking | |
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| The Official Moldova Vs Wales International World Cup Qualifier Match Thread on 00:58 - Sep 4 with 8362 views | joshdon10 |
| The Official Moldova Vs Wales International World Cup Qualifier Match Thread on 00:06 - Sep 4 by Joe_bradshaw |
The ranking of second place teams excludes results against the bottom team in each group.
May not make any difference if all second place teams do the double over the bottom teams but you never know... |
Great news for us if this goes between us and group H
We currently have taken 7 points so far from Ireland Serbia and Austria. With Ireland to play at home.
Bosnia have taken 5 points with Belgium to play outside bottom 2
Greece have taken 5 points with Cyprus to play outside bottom 2
Cyprus have taken 3 points with Belgium and Greece to play.
as long as we beat Ireland and finish level with any of these teams in the group points we would qualify, apart from Cyprus if they manage to beat Belgium and Greece and finish level with us.
Group I is one to watch aswell could end up coming down between 3 groups depending on results.
Just had a quick look could be wrong if I am ignore this post hahaha |  | | |
| The Official Moldova Vs Wales International World Cup Qualifier Match Thread on 02:54 - Sep 4 with 8334 views | Tummer_from_Texas |
| The Official Moldova Vs Wales International World Cup Qualifier Match Thread on 22:27 - Sep 3 by EasternJack |
Stating the obvious - must win.
As an aside, thoughts on preferred result vs Ireland and Serbia? |
Nobody has even brought this up, but Serbia still has to go to both Ireland and Austria.
If they drop points in both, Wales actually has an excellent opportunity to win the whole group by winning out!
A much better proposition obviously than a playoff vs possibly Portugal or Italy. |  |
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| The Official Moldova Vs Wales International World Cup Qualifier Match Thread on 08:45 - Sep 4 with 8249 views | Borojack |
| The Official Moldova Vs Wales International World Cup Qualifier Match Thread on 00:58 - Sep 4 by joshdon10 |
Great news for us if this goes between us and group H
We currently have taken 7 points so far from Ireland Serbia and Austria. With Ireland to play at home.
Bosnia have taken 5 points with Belgium to play outside bottom 2
Greece have taken 5 points with Cyprus to play outside bottom 2
Cyprus have taken 3 points with Belgium and Greece to play.
as long as we beat Ireland and finish level with any of these teams in the group points we would qualify, apart from Cyprus if they manage to beat Belgium and Greece and finish level with us.
Group I is one to watch aswell could end up coming down between 3 groups depending on results.
Just had a quick look could be wrong if I am ignore this post hahaha |
Sorry if I have misunderstood your post but only points against the bottom side don't count for the runners up table.
Not the bottom 2 teams. | |
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| The Official Moldova Vs Wales International World Cup Qualifier Match Thread on 17:23 - Sep 4 with 8127 views | Cooperman |
I'm after a bottle of Chisinau lager.
If there are any PS crew out there with the ability to carry one home then please do. I would be most grateful. |  |
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| The Official Moldova Vs Wales International World Cup Qualifier Match Thread on 18:15 - Sep 4 with 8069 views | Loyal |
| The Official Moldova Vs Wales International World Cup Qualifier Match Thread on 23:35 - Sep 3 by EasternJack |
Good stuff.
I've taken it for granted that we have to win all 3 to have a chance. |
Win all three and regardless we will get second. |  |
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| The Official Moldova Vs Wales International World Cup Qualifier Match Thread on 21:17 - Sep 4 with 7958 views | orion3016 |
| The Official Moldova Vs Wales International World Cup Qualifier Match Thread on 17:23 - Sep 4 by Cooperman |
I'm after a bottle of Chisinau lager.
If there are any PS crew out there with the ability to carry one home then please do. I would be most grateful. |
It's about 70p a pint and one of the best places on earth for good looking women |  |
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| The Official Moldova Vs Wales International World Cup Qualifier Match Thread on 21:34 - Sep 4 with 7932 views | raynor94 |
| The Official Moldova Vs Wales International World Cup Qualifier Match Thread on 18:15 - Sep 4 by Loyal |
Win all three and regardless we will get second. |
And still won't guarantee a play off spot | |
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| The Official Moldova Vs Wales International World Cup Qualifier Match Thread on 22:08 - Sep 4 with 7902 views | Fireboy2 |
| The Official Moldova Vs Wales International World Cup Qualifier Match Thread on 21:34 - Sep 4 by raynor94 |
And still won't guarantee a play off spot |
Will 20 pts not guarantee a play off spot then? |  | | |
| The Official Moldova Vs Wales International World Cup Qualifier Match Thread on 22:12 - Sep 4 with 7893 views | EasternJack |
| The Official Moldova Vs Wales International World Cup Qualifier Match Thread on 22:08 - Sep 4 by Fireboy2 |
Will 20 pts not guarantee a play off spot then? |
Based on the current runner up table, 16 points 20 minus the six we picked up against bottom of the group) should easily put us into the playoffs unless something extroddimaty happens in the other groups.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_FIFA_World_Cup_qualification_(UEFA)#Ranking | |
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| The Official Moldova Vs Wales International World Cup Qualifier Match Thread on 22:21 - Sep 4 with 7879 views | Cooperman |
| The Official Moldova Vs Wales International World Cup Qualifier Match Thread on 21:17 - Sep 4 by orion3016 |
It's about 70p a pint and one of the best places on earth for good looking women |
You're there? If so you've got my order. | |
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| The Official Moldova Vs Wales International World Cup Qualifier Match Thread on 22:31 - Sep 4 with 7859 views | Borojack |
Wales can only get 14 maximum if you exclude the Moldova points we are 2 behind Ireland. | |
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| The Official Moldova Vs Wales International World Cup Qualifier Match Thread on 22:45 - Sep 4 with 7835 views | EasternJack |
| The Official Moldova Vs Wales International World Cup Qualifier Match Thread on 22:31 - Sep 4 by Borojack |
Wales can only get 14 maximum if you exclude the Moldova points we are 2 behind Ireland. |
Sorry - of course 14! Duh
Going to be close. | |
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| The Official Moldova Vs Wales International World Cup Qualifier Match Thread on 08:03 - Sep 5 with 7700 views | orion3016 |
| The Official Moldova Vs Wales International World Cup Qualifier Match Thread on 22:21 - Sep 4 by Cooperman |
You're there? If so you've got my order. |
Yes
It's a good place. Not seen many jacks mostly north walians although we did have the pleasure of bumping into some Cardiff boys who are convinced we are swapping leagues next season [Post edited 5 Sep 2017 8:04]
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| The Official Moldova Vs Wales International World Cup Qualifier Match Thread on 08:11 - Sep 5 with 7686 views | Borojack |
| The Official Moldova Vs Wales International World Cup Qualifier Match Thread on 08:03 - Sep 5 by orion3016 |
Yes
It's a good place. Not seen many jacks mostly north walians although we did have the pleasure of bumping into some Cardiff boys who are convinced we are swapping leagues next season [Post edited 5 Sep 2017 8:04]
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We will be swapping leagues we are heading for the Europa League.
They will now go 41 games without a win and head straight to League 1. | |
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