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Corbyn landslide... 22:40 - Mar 4 with 48750 viewsKerouac

...people, daft people, keep telling me that Corbyn is going to lead Labour to a landslide victory at the next election.

Really?

Can I take a straw poll of those on here who believe a party who appoints people like this;



...who in turn appoints advisers like this;

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5458719/Labour-leader-pressure-gay-MP-sa

...who comes out with shite like this;

She said: ‘I practise witchcraft. It’s something I’ve always been attracted to and I like it because it’s female-centric. I feel most religions are driven by and tailored for men.’

She added: ‘It interests me because it’s part of my ancestry — voodoo is more entwined in black identity than Christianity.’

Other pearlers include;
She called the suffragettes "white supremacists" and claimed that white people are "socially conditioned to be racist".




Are you going to vote for this shower?
Do these people represent YOU?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ss9VZ1FHxy0
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Corbyn landslide... on 20:33 - Mar 5 with 1614 viewsPrivate_Partz

Corbyn landslide... on 20:26 - Mar 5 by exiledclaseboy

Well that’s the next election sewn up for Labour them. Ffs


Indeed. UKIPers voting Tory will have a greater effect ;-)

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Corbyn landslide... on 20:35 - Mar 5 with 1609 viewsHighjack

Corbyn landslide... on 20:06 - Mar 5 by WarwickHunt

"Corbyn did campaign to Remain. The fact is it had very little coverage due to the Dodgy Dave one man show"




A pretend "remainer" - he was a fücking disgrace. Honest politician my arse.


He threw his weight behind remain by saying he was 6 out of 10 in favour of it.

Convincing.

The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which.
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Corbyn landslide... on 20:37 - Mar 5 with 1602 viewsexiledclaseboy

Corbyn landslide... on 20:28 - Mar 5 by Akinfenwa

You would expect to see this in Zimbabwe not the UK.

Glad so many people are aware of these things as most people who vote Labour have no idea. They just vote Labour because their parents hated maggie and she stole the milk and closed the pits.


Whereas most people who vote Tory are making an informed political choice I suppose.

That’s the kind of condescending bollocks I really hate about this argument. Both parties have their fair share of “sheep” voters who will vote for that party cos their parents did etc etc blah blah. It’s not exclusive to Labour.

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Corbyn landslide... on 20:41 - Mar 5 with 1584 viewsFlashberryjack

Corbyn landslide... on 20:37 - Mar 5 by exiledclaseboy

Whereas most people who vote Tory are making an informed political choice I suppose.

That’s the kind of condescending bollocks I really hate about this argument. Both parties have their fair share of “sheep” voters who will vote for that party cos their parents did etc etc blah blah. It’s not exclusive to Labour.


It probably is true in Wales.

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Corbyn landslide... on 20:42 - Mar 5 with 1573 viewssherpajacob

Corbyn landslide... on 20:35 - Mar 5 by Highjack

He threw his weight behind remain by saying he was 6 out of 10 in favour of it.

Convincing.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-politics-eu-referendum-36506163/corbyn-i-m-seven

It was 7 and a,half out of 10 and the vast majority of labour voters voted remain,

But hey brexit was jezza's fault.

Did you read it was 6 out of 10 in the mail or the sun?

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Corbyn landslide... on 20:43 - Mar 5 with 1573 viewsexiledclaseboy

Corbyn landslide... on 20:41 - Mar 5 by Flashberryjack

It probably is true in Wales.


Just as the same is true of Tory voters across vast swathes of the Home Counties. Which was my point.

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Corbyn landslide... on 20:44 - Mar 5 with 1570 viewsoldgrey

"Why is Jeremy Corbyn trying so hard to change the percentage of MP's required to back a candidate for leadership nomination from 15% to 5%? I know the answer, do you? I will give you a clue. DICTATORSHIP "

I would argue the changes are to give Labour Party members a larger say in leadership elections rather than a small coterie of MPs. That strikes me as a democratic change rather than a move to DICTATORSHIP.

You will recollect that the existing Labour Party rules nearly prevented Corbyn from standing for re-election in the last election.

As much as you may dislike the man, you have to agree that would have been a travesty given the ensuing result. Unless your definition of democracy includes excluding the most popular candidate by some ruse..
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Corbyn landslide... on 20:45 - Mar 5 with 1568 viewsoh_tommy_tommy

Corbyn landslide... on 20:28 - Mar 5 by Akinfenwa

You would expect to see this in Zimbabwe not the UK.

Glad so many people are aware of these things as most people who vote Labour have no idea. They just vote Labour because their parents hated maggie and she stole the milk and closed the pits.


Socialism is now back in the Labour Party and rightly so .


Once Corbyn stands down after the next election because I don’t think he’ll win, it will continue to be a socialist party .

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Corbyn landslide... on 20:45 - Mar 5 with 1564 viewsAkinfenwa

Corbyn landslide... on 20:37 - Mar 5 by exiledclaseboy

Whereas most people who vote Tory are making an informed political choice I suppose.

That’s the kind of condescending bollocks I really hate about this argument. Both parties have their fair share of “sheep” voters who will vote for that party cos their parents did etc etc blah blah. It’s not exclusive to Labour.


It is way more common place amongst Labour voters nobody can deny that.

Especially in Wales.

I have family members who have always voted labour but when I cross examine their political beliefs they may aswell be wearing blue ties.

Politics is not football. Be loyal to your club in football but never pledge support to one party for life. Always vote for the best option at the time. Theresa May was the best of an awful bunch.
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Corbyn landslide... on 20:47 - Mar 5 with 1556 viewsexiledclaseboy

Corbyn landslide... on 20:45 - Mar 5 by Akinfenwa

It is way more common place amongst Labour voters nobody can deny that.

Especially in Wales.

I have family members who have always voted labour but when I cross examine their political beliefs they may aswell be wearing blue ties.

Politics is not football. Be loyal to your club in football but never pledge support to one party for life. Always vote for the best option at the time. Theresa May was the best of an awful bunch.


Where’s your evidence for it being more commonplace among labour voters?

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Corbyn landslide... on 20:48 - Mar 5 with 1547 viewslondonlisa2001

Corbyn landslide... on 20:45 - Mar 5 by Akinfenwa

It is way more common place amongst Labour voters nobody can deny that.

Especially in Wales.

I have family members who have always voted labour but when I cross examine their political beliefs they may aswell be wearing blue ties.

Politics is not football. Be loyal to your club in football but never pledge support to one party for life. Always vote for the best option at the time. Theresa May was the best of an awful bunch.


It's just as common amongst Tory voters.
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Corbyn landslide... on 20:48 - Mar 5 with 1547 viewsLohengrin

Corbyn landslide... on 20:42 - Mar 5 by sherpajacob

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-politics-eu-referendum-36506163/corbyn-i-m-seven

It was 7 and a,half out of 10 and the vast majority of labour voters voted remain,

But hey brexit was jezza's fault.

Did you read it was 6 out of 10 in the mail or the sun?


The vast majority where? Camden, Hackney and Islington, perhaps?

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Corbyn landslide... on 20:49 - Mar 5 with 1543 viewsFlashberryjack

Corbyn landslide... on 20:47 - Mar 5 by exiledclaseboy

Where’s your evidence for it being more commonplace among labour voters?


Same place as your evidence that says it isn't.

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Corbyn landslide... on 20:50 - Mar 5 with 1538 viewsAkinfenwa

Corbyn landslide... on 20:44 - Mar 5 by oldgrey

"Why is Jeremy Corbyn trying so hard to change the percentage of MP's required to back a candidate for leadership nomination from 15% to 5%? I know the answer, do you? I will give you a clue. DICTATORSHIP "

I would argue the changes are to give Labour Party members a larger say in leadership elections rather than a small coterie of MPs. That strikes me as a democratic change rather than a move to DICTATORSHIP.

You will recollect that the existing Labour Party rules nearly prevented Corbyn from standing for re-election in the last election.

As much as you may dislike the man, you have to agree that would have been a travesty given the ensuing result. Unless your definition of democracy includes excluding the most popular candidate by some ruse..


Such a flawed answer. The 15% rule is there to stop the members aka momenum & unions completely taking over the party. The MP's should definately have a big say in the leadership of their party.

You are talking tripe.

Socialists do not like truth.

Dodged the boundaries question I see. Typical.
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Corbyn landslide... on 20:50 - Mar 5 with 1538 viewssherpajacob

Corbyn landslide... on 20:49 - Mar 5 by Flashberryjack

Same place as your evidence that says it isn't.


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chingford_and_Woodford_Green_(UK_Parliament_cons

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Corbyn landslide... on 20:54 - Mar 5 with 1518 viewsexiledclaseboy

Corbyn landslide... on 20:49 - Mar 5 by Flashberryjack

Same place as your evidence that says it isn't.


The evidence for that is that there are as many if not more rock solid safe Tory seats in some parts of the country as there are rock solid Labour seats in others.

So if lifelong Labour seats are largely because of “sheep” voters why is the same not true for the Tory seats?

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Corbyn landslide... on 20:54 - Mar 5 with 1518 viewsFlashberryjack

Corbyn landslide... on 20:50 - Mar 5 by sherpajacob

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chingford_and_Woodford_Green_(UK_Parliament_cons


????????

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Corbyn landslide... on 20:54 - Mar 5 with 1518 viewssherpajacob

Corbyn landslide... on 20:48 - Mar 5 by Lohengrin

The vast majority where? Camden, Hackney and Islington, perhaps?


https://yougov.co.uk/news/2016/06/27/how-britain-voted/

65% Labour voters voted remain, reported consistently across many polls.

But don't let facts get in the way of bias

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Corbyn landslide... on 20:54 - Mar 5 with 1514 viewsAkinfenwa

Corbyn landslide... on 20:47 - Mar 5 by exiledclaseboy

Where’s your evidence for it being more commonplace among labour voters?


Its impossible to evidence such a thing. I do not live in the home counties but I do live in Wales and its rife here. People vote for Labour out of habit. You could put a red jacket on a scarecrow and people would vote for it.

You are lying to yourself.
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Corbyn landslide... on 20:55 - Mar 5 with 1506 viewsFlashberryjack

Corbyn landslide... on 20:54 - Mar 5 by exiledclaseboy

The evidence for that is that there are as many if not more rock solid safe Tory seats in some parts of the country as there are rock solid Labour seats in others.

So if lifelong Labour seats are largely because of “sheep” voters why is the same not true for the Tory seats?


We are talking Wales....yes ?

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Corbyn landslide... on 20:58 - Mar 5 with 1497 viewsLohengrin

Corbyn landslide... on 20:48 - Mar 5 by londonlisa2001

It's just as common amongst Tory voters.


“Like cattle, always looking downward with their heads bent...”

Plato that is. You won’t get that on Lansman’s forum or at the Maidenhead Cons’whist drive, love. At least on here we encourage each other to think.

An idea isn't responsible for those who believe in it.

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Corbyn landslide... on 20:58 - Mar 5 with 1496 viewsexiledclaseboy

Corbyn landslide... on 20:54 - Mar 5 by Akinfenwa

Its impossible to evidence such a thing. I do not live in the home counties but I do live in Wales and its rife here. People vote for Labour out of habit. You could put a red jacket on a scarecrow and people would vote for it.

You are lying to yourself.


Au contraire mon amis. I’m not denying that there are many who vote Labour out of habit. All I’m saying is that the same is true for Tory voters too. If you’re denying that you’re the one lying to yourself.

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Corbyn landslide... on 20:58 - Mar 5 with 1496 viewstrampie

Corbyn landslide... on 20:50 - Mar 5 by Akinfenwa

Such a flawed answer. The 15% rule is there to stop the members aka momenum & unions completely taking over the party. The MP's should definately have a big say in the leadership of their party.

You are talking tripe.

Socialists do not like truth.

Dodged the boundaries question I see. Typical.


They are not Socialists, they are right wingers, Tony Blair was a bigger Tory than Mrs Thatcher, Corbyn was in Labour under Blair and Brown and he was in Labour when they got rid of Clause IV.

Labour are traitors to the poor and the working class [as well as their founding fathers], see what one of their fairly recent shadow secretary for work and pensions said about Labour being “not the party of people on benefits”.

Continually being banned by Planet Swans for Porthcawl and then being reinstated.
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Corbyn landslide... on 21:01 - Mar 5 with 1479 viewsexiledclaseboy

Corbyn landslide... on 20:55 - Mar 5 by Flashberryjack

We are talking Wales....yes ?


No. We are talking about “most people who vote Labour have no idea. They just vote Labour because their parents hated maggie and she stole the milk and closed the pits” as per Akinfenwa’s original statement that I challenged. You introduced Wales.

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Corbyn landslide... on 21:01 - Mar 5 with 1479 viewsLohengrin

Corbyn landslide... on 20:54 - Mar 5 by sherpajacob

https://yougov.co.uk/news/2016/06/27/how-britain-voted/

65% Labour voters voted remain, reported consistently across many polls.

But don't let facts get in the way of bias


What bias? I’m basing an observation on all the old industrial regions having voted out, some by a landslide.

An idea isn't responsible for those who believe in it.

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