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Swansea City to furlough non-playing staff ... 16:43 - Apr 1 with 5780 viewstheloneranger

"The move allows up to 80% of wages to be covered during football's suspension."

"Swansea say they will top up the remaining 20% so staff retain their full wages "for the immediate future".


https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52123543

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Swansea City to furlough non-playing staff ... on 16:58 - Apr 1 with 4152 viewsmonmouth

So us, Ashley and Levy leech off the taxpayer then?

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Swansea City to furlough non-playing staff ... on 17:05 - Apr 1 with 4131 viewsJackSomething

Once other clubs took this step (and the majority of the negative media attention), it was inevitable we'd do the same.

I sincerely hope the PFA are working on a proposal that sees players take wage cuts to protect non-playing staff at all clubs. It's got to be done right with the express understanding that the money is used to protect staff, not saved for transfers or expensive wages in the future.

You know, Hobbes, some days even my lucky rocket ship underpants don't help.

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Swansea City to furlough non-playing staff ... on 17:24 - Apr 1 with 4084 viewsDyfnant

Why don’t all clubs furlough all the players, money capped at 80% of £2500

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Swansea City to furlough non-playing staff ... on 17:41 - Apr 1 with 4029 viewsSwanjaxs

I think most supporters of most clubs ( especially PL) will be looking at the players of the team they support to come up with some sort of personal financial sacrifice.

Not a pay cut, but giving over a percentage of thier wages to the less fortunate at this time.

If every player in the Premier league for instance gave over just 10% of thier wages for the next few months it could make a vital contribution to families struggling to put food on the table at the moment.

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Swansea City to furlough non-playing staff ... on 17:42 - Apr 1 with 4027 viewsGaryjack

Swansea City to furlough non-playing staff ... on 17:24 - Apr 1 by Dyfnant

Why don’t all clubs furlough all the players, money capped at 80% of £2500


Because technically they would be putting all the players out of contract. Chaos!
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Swansea City to furlough non-playing staff ... on 17:48 - Apr 1 with 3986 viewsThebus

Swansea City to furlough non-playing staff ... on 17:24 - Apr 1 by Dyfnant

Why don’t all clubs furlough all the players, money capped at 80% of £2500


If you did that, then after 4 weeks each player could ask to be made redundant and possibly just walk away from the club.
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Swansea City to furlough non-playing staff ... on 18:04 - Apr 1 with 3959 viewspencoedjack

Swansea City to furlough non-playing staff ... on 17:41 - Apr 1 by Swanjaxs

I think most supporters of most clubs ( especially PL) will be looking at the players of the team they support to come up with some sort of personal financial sacrifice.

Not a pay cut, but giving over a percentage of thier wages to the less fortunate at this time.

If every player in the Premier league for instance gave over just 10% of thier wages for the next few months it could make a vital contribution to families struggling to put food on the table at the moment.


Agree totally but I bet the majority of them don’t give a fuk.

The government should force each person in the UK who earns over 100k to pay 10% into a fund (NHS or key workers to be exceptions).
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Swansea City to furlough non-playing staff ... on 18:04 - Apr 1 with 3958 viewsDarran

Surely our rich wealthy owners could cover this,after all even though nobody could foresee this pandemic it was the main reason for the sale wasn’t it!
Well wasn’t it? So they’d be able to cover costs if things ever went shit shaped.
That’s what the sellouts said didn’t they?

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Swansea City to furlough non-playing staff ... on 18:09 - Apr 1 with 3946 viewsbuilthjack

Swansea City to furlough non-playing staff ... on 18:04 - Apr 1 by Darran

Surely our rich wealthy owners could cover this,after all even though nobody could foresee this pandemic it was the main reason for the sale wasn’t it!
Well wasn’t it? So they’d be able to cover costs if things ever went shit shaped.
That’s what the sellouts said didn’t they?


As I have said all along, the Yanks haven't got a pot to pee in. Frauds.

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Swansea City to furlough non-playing staff ... on 18:14 - Apr 1 with 3923 viewsLeonWasGod

Swansea City to furlough non-playing staff ... on 17:42 - Apr 1 by Garyjack

Because technically they would be putting all the players out of contract. Chaos!


For 'normal' employees, furloughing someone doesn't break continuance service conditions. Are footballers different? They shouldn't be imo. Some clubs down the lower end of the pyramid may need to use furloughing to survive (same as any other business).
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Swansea City to furlough non-playing staff ... on 18:17 - Apr 1 with 3915 viewsBillyChong

Swansea City to furlough non-playing staff ... on 18:04 - Apr 1 by Darran

Surely our rich wealthy owners could cover this,after all even though nobody could foresee this pandemic it was the main reason for the sale wasn’t it!
Well wasn’t it? So they’d be able to cover costs if things ever went shit shaped.
That’s what the sellouts said didn’t they?


That was pretty much how the sale was justified....
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Swansea City to furlough non-playing staff ... on 18:24 - Apr 1 with 3898 viewsDarran

Swansea City to furlough non-playing staff ... on 18:17 - Apr 1 by BillyChong

That was pretty much how the sale was justified....


Indeed Bill,indeed.

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Swansea City to furlough non-playing staff ... on 18:28 - Apr 1 with 3893 viewsGaryjack

Swansea City to furlough non-playing staff ... on 18:14 - Apr 1 by LeonWasGod

For 'normal' employees, furloughing someone doesn't break continuance service conditions. Are footballers different? They shouldn't be imo. Some clubs down the lower end of the pyramid may need to use furloughing to survive (same as any other business).


Yes footballers are different as they are under contract. By furloughing them their clubs are saying that they can no longer honour that contract. It would be an absolute nightmare for clubs from top to bottom.
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Swansea City to furlough non-playing staff ... on 18:41 - Apr 1 with 3858 viewsjasper_T

Swansea City to furlough non-playing staff ... on 18:14 - Apr 1 by LeonWasGod

For 'normal' employees, furloughing someone doesn't break continuance service conditions. Are footballers different? They shouldn't be imo. Some clubs down the lower end of the pyramid may need to use furloughing to survive (same as any other business).


Depends whether clubs can still hold a player's registration despite putting them on furlough. That's the piece of paper tying them to a club/employer, not the employment contract.
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Swansea City to furlough non-playing staff ... on 18:54 - Apr 1 with 3810 viewsThebus

Swansea City to furlough non-playing staff ... on 18:14 - Apr 1 by LeonWasGod

For 'normal' employees, furloughing someone doesn't break continuance service conditions. Are footballers different? They shouldn't be imo. Some clubs down the lower end of the pyramid may need to use furloughing to survive (same as any other business).


After 4 week of being furloughed you can ask to be made redundant and that includes players too.
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Swansea City to furlough non-playing staff ... on 19:45 - Apr 1 with 3741 viewsDyfnant

Swansea City to furlough non-playing staff ... on 18:54 - Apr 1 by Thebus

After 4 week of being furloughed you can ask to be made redundant and that includes players too.


Do it for 3 weeks then, that’s a start

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Swansea City to furlough non-playing staff ... on 20:16 - Apr 1 with 3684 viewspencoedjack

Swansea City to furlough non-playing staff ... on 18:54 - Apr 1 by Thebus

After 4 week of being furloughed you can ask to be made redundant and that includes players too.


Is that true?
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Swansea City to furlough non-playing staff ... on 20:38 - Apr 1 with 3645 viewsJoe_bradshaw

Redundant eh?

That could be one way to get rid of the deadwood.

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Swansea City to furlough non-playing staff ... on 20:48 - Apr 1 with 3637 viewsQJumpingJack

Our owners should step in and help those who genuinely need it at the club - ie the non-playing staff.
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Swansea City to furlough non-playing staff ... on 21:05 - Apr 1 with 3597 viewsThebus

Swansea City to furlough non-playing staff ... on 20:16 - Apr 1 by pencoedjack

Is that true?


Yes after 4 weeks any worker can ask to be made redundant
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Swansea City to furlough non-playing staff ... on 21:09 - Apr 1 with 3589 viewsThebus

Swansea City to furlough non-playing staff ... on 18:28 - Apr 1 by Garyjack

Yes footballers are different as they are under contract. By furloughing them their clubs are saying that they can no longer honour that contract. It would be an absolute nightmare for clubs from top to bottom.


No it doesn’t. It’s pointless furloughing players that earn thousands each week.
Also they are under contract and therefore have the right to get paid what they are entitled too.
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Swansea City to furlough non-playing staff ... on 21:11 - Apr 1 with 3594 viewsGaryjack

Swansea City to furlough non-playing staff ... on 20:48 - Apr 1 by QJumpingJack

Our owners should step in and help those who genuinely need it at the club - ie the non-playing staff.


They are receiving 100% of their wages, as stated in the OP.
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Swansea City to furlough non-playing staff ... on 22:09 - Apr 1 with 3512 viewslonglostjack

Swansea City to furlough non-playing staff ... on 21:09 - Apr 1 by Thebus

No it doesn’t. It’s pointless furloughing players that earn thousands each week.
Also they are under contract and therefore have the right to get paid what they are entitled too.


If they had any self respect they’d voluntarily give up 20% of their salary to help out the non-playing staff.

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Swansea City to furlough non-playing staff ... on 22:22 - Apr 1 with 3489 viewsThebus

Swansea City to furlough non-playing staff ... on 22:09 - Apr 1 by longlostjack

If they had any self respect they’d voluntarily give up 20% of their salary to help out the non-playing staff.


I couldn’t agree more, but that’s another issue.
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Swansea City to furlough non-playing staff ... on 23:24 - Apr 1 with 3428 viewsSTID2017

Swansea City to furlough non-playing staff ... on 18:14 - Apr 1 by LeonWasGod

For 'normal' employees, furloughing someone doesn't break continuance service conditions. Are footballers different? They shouldn't be imo. Some clubs down the lower end of the pyramid may need to use furloughing to survive (same as any other business).


Totally different contracts.
The normal employee can walk away with (I guess ) following a month's notice.
Players cannot change jobs for years unless they ask for a transfer or are transferred.
I don't claim to know the intricacies of players' contracts but assume they can only be changed by mutual agreement. Who in their right mind is going to agree to such massive pay cuts even in this climate ?

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