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Choose the form of the destructor — Report
at 17:44:08

Oh wow, I didn't realise that posting a link to my forum post would make the whole lengthy post appear in the comments and mean that people would have to scroll down forever to read any further comments.
Sorry everyone!
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Choose the form of the destructor — Report
at 17:41:40

I just posted some stuff about the post-match scenes in the forum.
https://www.fansnetwork.co.uk/football/queensparkrangers/forum/295532/a-few-refl
On the question of what and why are people applauding, well, as I say in that forum post I neither applauded or gave any players grief.
I have done both many times previously and I can completely understand both sides.
We all want QPR to stay up. Maybe those who are applauding feel that the players are more likely to achieve that with positive encouragement from the fans.
That doesn't necessarily mean that they think these players are any good, or giving their best effort for the cause.
I'm sure even amongst those who are applauding the players off, there is a range of opinions on who is or is not trying their best to keep us up.
The older I've got the more I've started to think that having a go at our own players doesn't achieve anything, other than making the person dishing out the grief feel very marginally less annoyed.
That's not to say I haven't coated our own players off many times because I have.
I'd like to think that Karl Ready's ears are still ringing from all the grief I gave him and I was right to do so because he was a fücking useless cünt with shıt hair.

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Good omen - History
at 18:09:12

That 1990 Sunderland game & the Falco winner in particular always sticks out in my teenage memories as a particularly memorable one. I think it's partly because I was in the Paddock with a great view of that goal. Not sure why I was in the Paddock rather than my usual spot in the Lower Loft, but I do remember that it was absolutely peeing it down.
I was soaking wet and had no change of clothes but I was meeting some mates after the match to go to a Billy Bragg gig at Hackney Empire. Great end to the match and the gig was great too.

My other favourite game against Sunderland was when we beat them up there with Rowlands and Furlong scoring.
Oh for a player right now who can move forwards with the ball at his feet like Martin Rowlands!
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Millwall deliver more pain, and a cautionary tale to woeful QPR - Report
at 12:09:25

You've done a good job of highlighting two of the most infuriating things about watching QPR these days.
The throw-ins, man alive, the throw-ins. Always, absolutely ALWAYS lead to losing possession. I'm not one for saying that the players aren't trying, but fcking hell most of the time this is just a basic lack of movement / initiative.
Whoever is taking the throw usually has a maximum of one option available to him. It's so predictable.
And If I can predict with 100% accuracy from the stands which of our players is going to receive the ball from the throw, then guess what geniuses so can the opposition players!

Even more infuriating is the endless bloody pointing to someone else when Dickie / Dunne etc have the ball and are looking in vain for a pass forwards.
This was particularly bad in the recent games at Fleetwood and Huddersfield.
Dozzell / Roberts / Adomah / Willock / Johansen / Iroekbunam always pointing to someone else. No, not me, I don't want it. Give it to someone else, anyone else in fact but definitely not me.
Iroekbunam & Roberts the worst for this but Willock not far behind at the moment.

MAKE A RUN!! MAKE A FCKING RUN INTO SOME SPACE!! IT'S NOT THAT COMPLICATED!! SMALL CHILDREN CAN BE TRAINED TO DO THIS!!

Adomah was a bit better for this in the closing stages on Saturday but in most recent games Chair, Dykes & sometimes Armstrong are the only ones who EVER seem to want the ball passed to them!
Chair never hides, it must be so frustrating to be him playing in this team! Especially when he's seen first hand at the World Cup what can be achieved when everyone works their nuts off for each other.

The other thing that many of the same players do instead of pointing is just face the other way. They know very well that Dunne / Dickie / whoever isn't going to pass the ball to them if they're not even looking.

Too many players happy to turn up and not take any responsibility for getting the ball forward, not take responsibility for being part of a team, not take responsibility for doing the basics, pass and move which again is something you can train small children to do fairly quickly.
It's not like they don't know this. They just don't want to do it at the moment. (for some reason, and I'm more inclined to blame players than the manager)
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QPR stun league leaders with early statement of intent - Report
at 21:48:51

🧡🧡🧡 it.
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Fierce rivals to kindred spirits - Preview
at 17:41:16

Enjoyable preview to read.
Glad to hear someone else is also still pissed off about that Crewe game in 2003.
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Blackburn/Sunderland/Charlton - Awaydays
at 08:44:18

A great read, thanks.

Mike Sharon / Sad Ken 😆😆😆
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Glaring errors cost QPR third straight 2-1 loss - Report
at 14:11:47

That last sentence is spot on.
Despite the massive disappointment with the goal right at the end, 99% of us who were actually at the game applauded all the players off.
The keyboard reactionaries who throw their toys out of the pram with every defeat need a get a bit of perspective. On another night, this could've ended up being a 1-0 away win ground out against a physical side who are one of the favourites for automatic promotion. It didn't turn out that way but if we keep playing the way we can, the wins will come.
On Friday night some tired legs, players going off with injuries late on and a bit of inexperience didn't help our cause but even so we have looked at least as good as the opposition in every match this season, we've not looked out of our depth once.
Keep the faith Rs fans.

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The end of the beginning — Report
at 23:03:15

Great stuff.
Just because it didn't seem to get much of a mention on the livestream and I haven't seen it noted in your report or on the messageboard, some credit should go to Macauley Bonne for holding on to possession and an intelligent pass to Adomah for the 3rd goal.
Like you've said above about Dykes, Willock etc needing time to start finding some form, I see potential in Bonne too and I think he could be a more regular starter next season.
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Paul Parker's QPR goal - History
at 09:50:34

What a great day that 6-1 was, one of my favourite games from my teenage years.
I thought the announcer / scoreboard erroneously credited Parker's goal to Maddix not Wilson, but hey it was more than 30 years ago so I could be wrong!
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And then a hero comes along — Report
at 00:24:13

That parallel universe paragraph is brilliant, well done Clive.
One day we will all be back watching a late winner away from home and going mental.
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And then a hero comes along? Preview
at 15:21:54

Bloody hell, Martin Cranie I'd forgotten about him. He must be ancient.
In his brief loan spell with us, he was the only bright spot in a pretty awful team.
Who was manager when he was here on? Waddock? Seems like a lifetime ago!
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QPR recovery continues with rare away win - Report
at 23:01:51

Agree that we played some nice passing football at times. Amazing what a bit of pace and confidence up front can do. We repeatedly played good through balls inside the full back for a striker to run on to. Haven't seen us doing that since Burton away last season.
Easily the best I've seen us play this season but then again the other matches I've been to were Preston, West Brom and Bristol City!

re: Bolton's goal, yes the keeper should've had it. But the wall was preposterous. The player on the far left of the wall (from our view behind) left a huge gap in the wall for the Bolton player to aim through. All of the wall jumped up when the kick was taken. Another player deliberately lay down on the floor to stop the low shot but still somehow failed to stop the low shot! It was some serious next level Keystone Cops shit.

re: the chants, I'm all for a bit of gallows humour and as a fan based 200 miles from W12 who mainly only goes to away games I understand the frustration. But "how sh1t must you be, we're drawing away" before we've even kicked off?!? Come on now, that's not what I call "support"
15 minutes in we got "stand up if you love Rangers" followed inevitably by "sit down if you're a boring cvnt" directed at our own fans. This was followed by the far more insulting "sit down if you're a Chelsea fan"
We can do better than that.
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Terry exposed on QPR’s Free and Eze night — Report
at 22:25:17

What a fantastic report, especially all the stuff about that racist tw@t.
re: Freeman not playing, I don't think him being dropped to the bench had anything to do with his recent form or some random tinkering that people like to accuse Holloway of.
He was on 10 bookings, and if he'd got 1 more he would've faced a 2 game suspension.
https://www.facebook.com/OfficialQPRFC/photos/a.229995763697987.64139.1596106174
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QPR lose narrow contest at Hillsborough - Report
at 11:03:01

Both teams looked liked mid-table Championship teams.
The difference was that we kept possession and passed the ball around well without really threatening them that often. When they had possession they had a bit more of a cutting edge. That was because they had Bannan who has the ability to play a telling pass and also because their wide players were more effective than ours.
As usual a proportion of the away support more interested in trying to provoke stewards and have a moan at various QPR players.
The usual defence for this is that a lot of those blokes are our most loyal supporters who go to every match home and away (true) so therefore they can say/sing what they like (also true unfortunately).
I don't really understand this. Why do they think the current team / manager are so awful? We've had many many far worse squads than the current lot.

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Magilton's QPR score 12 in a week - History
at 15:58:17

That little spell in 2009 was exciting and we looked quote good under Magilton before the headbutts started flying.
There were little hints of our attacking threat a few months before that too under Sousa. I remember a midweek away match in the freezing pissingdown rain at Blackpool where we won 3-0. Routledge, Ephraim, Cook and Helguson all looked very dangerous. I think we still had Blackstock at that time as well. I remember coming out of that match and thinking we were going to storm up the table but it didn't really pan out that way!
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Rowan Vine from the halfway line - History
at 17:10:08

loved that Vine goal so much. It was one of those games where our 1-0 lead looked very dodgy and you felt like it was only a matter of time until they equalised (see also away at Wrexham when McLeod got sent off a few years earlier)
For some reason I've always found it a bit annoying when the opposition keeper goes up for a corner and it was so wonderful to see a keeper being punished for it.
But even though Vine was, as you say, an excellent Championship player before his injury, as he was running towards us I remember thinking "he's gonna f**k it up, he's gonna f**k it up, he's definitely gonna f**k it up"
The joy when he scored and secured the win is one of those precious memories that keep us going to games like midweek away at Burnley.
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The People vs Gianni Paladini
at 11:29:09

Guilty - divided the fanbase, connived and plotted, stitched up Ian Holloway, nearly cost us promotion with his underhand dealing and then his utter ineptitude in trying to cover his tracks about said underhand dealing.

Having said that, I think he did mean well at times and it would be wrong to say that he didn't care at all about QPR. and it's notable that most people, ex-players, ex-managers seem to be fairly kind in their words about him.

But on the many times I saw him in various Shepherds Bush boozers, I argued with him a few times but I never once shook his hand and I still would refuse to do so today. All round dodgy geezer, above all the Faurlin transfer and how it nearly (and in all fairness probably should have!) cost us promotion.
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Life through the serving hatch — LFW Awaydays
at 11:22:25

When I go shopping I usually have my ipod on and I take the earphones off whenever I'm buying anything because that's the polite thing to do. But I make an exception for WH Smiths, keep the headphones on and just shake my head a lot in response to whatever silly questions they're asking me that I can't hear.
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The Francis v Allen baby spat — history
at 21:21:55

great report as always.
that picture of Derry at the top looks like he's dancing Gangnam style.
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