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I am really disappointed with the kits, but I'm absolutely furious about the lies.
I hope this video covers the whole story. If you don't think it's that important, feel free to ignore it, but if you're bothered either by the kits or the lies or both then please help make some noise about it.
Cheers
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It's not about the kits any more. It's about the lies. on 10:06 - Jul 6 with 3894 views
It's not about the kits any more. It's about the lies. on 12:49 - Jul 4 by saxbend
There were surveys after September too? I missed those, but that really is taking the piss! If that's the case then it looks as though Ian Taylor has blown the whistle on a massive con.
Maybe not actually. I'm trying to find it but the latest one I can find was in July.
It doesn't feel like the one I did was a year ago but maybe it was.
Yes, the July one is the one I referred to in the video. It's still a sham though given that the shirts were signed off in September. Two months to collect all the responses, analayse the results and then create and sign off a brand new kit? Hardly.
I am more and more sure now that that survey was just a sneaky way to implant the lie about kit rules into fans' minds and trick them into sayong they consented to not having hoops before signing off on a design that for whatever reason Nike had already convinced them to accept. The only uncertainty regarding the rules is whether the club consciously spread this lie or just misinterpreted the rules and gave up on hoops too easily.
Either way, they still lied to us if they promised us a properly planned design using all the time available but actually signed off on this awful design as early as September.
This is why I don't think much of Dave McIntyre's output. Even when he gets things right he never names his sources.
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It's not about the kits any more. It's about the lies. on 11:20 - Jul 6 with 3832 views
It's not about the kits any more. It's about the lies. on 11:08 - Jul 6 by saxbend
Yes, the July one is the one I referred to in the video. It's still a sham though given that the shirts were signed off in September. Two months to collect all the responses, analayse the results and then create and sign off a brand new kit? Hardly.
I am more and more sure now that that survey was just a sneaky way to implant the lie about kit rules into fans' minds and trick them into sayong they consented to not having hoops before signing off on a design that for whatever reason Nike had already convinced them to accept. The only uncertainty regarding the rules is whether the club consciously spread this lie or just misinterpreted the rules and gave up on hoops too easily.
Either way, they still lied to us if they promised us a properly planned design using all the time available but actually signed off on this awful design as early as September.
This is why I don't think much of Dave McIntyre's output. Even when he gets things right he never names his sources.
I know it's either a lie or incompetence and I don't know what's worse. Based on previous actions its still hard to tell. Did they even have the very basic conversations with Nike about their plans before signing this deal or was it as simple as money?
Why would he name his sources though? He's a journalist.
Every year people get so crazy about the kit. I am not sure what there is so wrong about this year's release. I mean, I wish the hoops went all the way around, but other than that, they aren't bad:
1. I like the look of the first and second kits from the front. I like the broad hoops. I like the piping (red on the first kit and blue on the second kit).
2. I like seeing Mackie in the first kit. Is that a sign that he might be captain next year? Just speculating, like.
3. I like seeing Green in the goalie kit. Does that men he is staying? I have not seen any rumors that he is leaving.
4. Who is the bloke wearing the Denis the Menace kit?
It's not about the kits any more. It's about the lies. on 11:41 - Jul 6 by DylanP
Every year people get so crazy about the kit. I am not sure what there is so wrong about this year's release. I mean, I wish the hoops went all the way around, but other than that, they aren't bad:
1. I like the look of the first and second kits from the front. I like the broad hoops. I like the piping (red on the first kit and blue on the second kit).
2. I like seeing Mackie in the first kit. Is that a sign that he might be captain next year? Just speculating, like.
3. I like seeing Green in the goalie kit. Does that men he is staying? I have not seen any rumors that he is leaving.
4. Who is the bloke wearing the Denis the Menace kit?
It's not about the kits any more. It's about the lies. on 11:41 - Jul 6 by DylanP
Every year people get so crazy about the kit. I am not sure what there is so wrong about this year's release. I mean, I wish the hoops went all the way around, but other than that, they aren't bad:
1. I like the look of the first and second kits from the front. I like the broad hoops. I like the piping (red on the first kit and blue on the second kit).
2. I like seeing Mackie in the first kit. Is that a sign that he might be captain next year? Just speculating, like.
3. I like seeing Green in the goalie kit. Does that men he is staying? I have not seen any rumors that he is leaving.
4. Who is the bloke wearing the Denis the Menace kit?
It's not about the kits any more. It's about the lies. on 11:35 - Jul 6 by Mvpeter
He does provide reliable information but if it was verifiable then there that's the end of the reliable information.
Without it being verifiable the reliable information never begins. Anyone can say anything without naming a source. If you name sources, maybe fewer will come forward but anonymous sources are worthless anyway.
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It's not about the kits any more. It's about the lies. on 15:07 - Jul 6 with 3563 views
It's not about the kits any more. It's about the lies. on 11:08 - Jul 6 by saxbend
Yes, the July one is the one I referred to in the video. It's still a sham though given that the shirts were signed off in September. Two months to collect all the responses, analayse the results and then create and sign off a brand new kit? Hardly.
I am more and more sure now that that survey was just a sneaky way to implant the lie about kit rules into fans' minds and trick them into sayong they consented to not having hoops before signing off on a design that for whatever reason Nike had already convinced them to accept. The only uncertainty regarding the rules is whether the club consciously spread this lie or just misinterpreted the rules and gave up on hoops too easily.
Either way, they still lied to us if they promised us a properly planned design using all the time available but actually signed off on this awful design as early as September.
This is why I don't think much of Dave McIntyre's output. Even when he gets things right he never names his sources.
You're mental
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It's not about the kits any more. It's about the lies. on 16:09 - Jul 6 with 3500 views
It's not about the kits any more. It's about the lies. on 14:54 - Jul 6 by saxbend
Without it being verifiable the reliable information never begins. Anyone can say anything without naming a source. If you name sources, maybe fewer will come forward but anonymous sources are worthless anyway.
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Nonsense. I have access to a very reliable source at the club. He's only worth something because I keep shim's identity a secret.
You can judge an anonymous sources credibility on the reliability of the information and the frequency of it's reliability.
Not maybe fewer, none at all, ever again for the rest of your career. Why would they? If they didn't wish to be anonymous they wouldn't ask to be anonymous.
Dave is frequently accurate which leads me to believe his sources are often correct.
It's not about the kits any more. It's about the lies. on 14:54 - Jul 6 by saxbend
Without it being verifiable the reliable information never begins. Anyone can say anything without naming a source. If you name sources, maybe fewer will come forward but anonymous sources are worthless anyway.
[Post edited 6 Jul 2015 14:58]
Absolute nonsense.
ask Beavis I get nothing Butthead
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It's not about the kits any more. It's about the lies. on 19:16 - Jul 6 with 3297 views
It's not about the kits any more. It's about the lies. on 11:41 - Jul 6 by DylanP
Every year people get so crazy about the kit. I am not sure what there is so wrong about this year's release. I mean, I wish the hoops went all the way around, but other than that, they aren't bad:
1. I like the look of the first and second kits from the front. I like the broad hoops. I like the piping (red on the first kit and blue on the second kit).
2. I like seeing Mackie in the first kit. Is that a sign that he might be captain next year? Just speculating, like.
3. I like seeing Green in the goalie kit. Does that men he is staying? I have not seen any rumors that he is leaving.
4. Who is the bloke wearing the Denis the Menace kit?
Hoops go all the way round, the new shirt is not hoops it is a blue shirt with white stripes on the front and the away shirt is a black shirt with red stripes on the front, Two years without hoops now.
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It's not about the kits any more. It's about the lies. on 14:27 - Jul 7 with 2974 views
It's not about the kits any more. It's about the lies. on 14:11 - Jul 7 by daveB
Hoops go all the way round, the new shirt is not hoops it is a blue shirt with white stripes on the front and the away shirt is a black shirt with red stripes on the front, Two years without hoops now.
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