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Collapse of Coronavirus testing deal - who's lying?? 22:45 - Apr 1 with 2682 viewsPentyrchJack

WAG says there was a deal with Roche, while they say there wasn't. Who's lying?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-52124187

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Collapse of Coronavirus testing deal - who's lying?? on 22:47 - Apr 1 with 2672 viewsHighjack

My money is on the politicians.

The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which.
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Collapse of Coronavirus testing deal - who's lying?? on 22:55 - Apr 1 with 2649 viewsThebus

The sooner they close down the wag the better.
Complete bunch of idiots.
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Collapse of Coronavirus testing deal - who's lying?? on 23:09 - Apr 1 with 2637 viewsraynor94

Collapse of Coronavirus testing deal - who's lying?? on 22:47 - Apr 1 by Highjack

My money is on the politicians.


I concur

You give it out, you take it back it`s all part of the game
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Collapse of Coronavirus testing deal - who's lying?? on 23:47 - Apr 1 with 2602 viewsswan65split

Collapse of Coronavirus testing deal - who's lying?? on 22:47 - Apr 1 by Highjack

My money is on the politicians.


I conker
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Collapse of Coronavirus testing deal - who's lying?? on 23:51 - Apr 1 with 2590 viewsGaryjack

Collapse of Coronavirus testing deal - who's lying?? on 22:55 - Apr 1 by Thebus

The sooner they close down the wag the better.
Complete bunch of idiots.


There is hope for you yet!
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Collapse of Coronavirus testing deal - who's lying?? on 00:05 - Apr 2 with 2576 viewsblaenaugwentjack

Whitehall outbid WAG for the testing kits, totally shocking.
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Collapse of Coronavirus testing deal - who's lying?? on 00:34 - Apr 2 with 2552 viewscontroversial_jack

Collapse of Coronavirus testing deal - who's lying?? on 22:55 - Apr 1 by Thebus

The sooner they close down the wag the better.
Complete bunch of idiots.


It's throughout the NHS not just Wales
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Collapse of Coronavirus testing deal - who's lying?? on 04:11 - Apr 2 with 2507 viewsGlyn1

Collapse of Coronavirus testing deal - who's lying?? on 22:47 - Apr 1 by Highjack

My money is on the politicians.


As opposed to the scumbag corporate leeches?

It's sort of related, but one of the governors of a US state was asked yesterday why they didn't have enough testing kits. He responded that it's currently like buying something in an auction on eBay with the 50 US States bidding against each other, driving the price ever up that the pharmaceutical companies can charge. That's no way to run a health service.

You go to the US and you constantly see expensively shot TV ads for some medicine or other, encouraging desperate people to force their doctors to buy it - on the basis of a 30 second advert, which is absolutely crazy.

No doubt many of the adverts were made by Roche - please explain why you instinctively trust them? At least politicians have to go on the record to try and explain themselves, whereas the directors of a multi-national company like Roche can ignore the public as much as they want, or leave that to their PR firms. You'll have noticed that the politicians were all named, but Roche responded through a spokeswoman (not even a director of the company) who was unnamed.

But there was plenty of wriggle room in the Roche spokeswoman's reply: "a contract or agreement directly with Wales to supply testing". What the hell does that mean?
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Collapse of Coronavirus testing deal - who's lying?? on 07:13 - Apr 2 with 2426 viewsCaptain_Sham

If only there was a 90 page thread on the subject.

Its just a ride.

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Collapse of Coronavirus testing deal - who's lying?? on 07:30 - Apr 2 with 2413 viewsBrynmill_Jack

Collapse of Coronavirus testing deal - who's lying?? on 04:11 - Apr 2 by Glyn1

As opposed to the scumbag corporate leeches?

It's sort of related, but one of the governors of a US state was asked yesterday why they didn't have enough testing kits. He responded that it's currently like buying something in an auction on eBay with the 50 US States bidding against each other, driving the price ever up that the pharmaceutical companies can charge. That's no way to run a health service.

You go to the US and you constantly see expensively shot TV ads for some medicine or other, encouraging desperate people to force their doctors to buy it - on the basis of a 30 second advert, which is absolutely crazy.

No doubt many of the adverts were made by Roche - please explain why you instinctively trust them? At least politicians have to go on the record to try and explain themselves, whereas the directors of a multi-national company like Roche can ignore the public as much as they want, or leave that to their PR firms. You'll have noticed that the politicians were all named, but Roche responded through a spokeswoman (not even a director of the company) who was unnamed.

But there was plenty of wriggle room in the Roche spokeswoman's reply: "a contract or agreement directly with Wales to supply testing". What the hell does that mean?
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In the words of Frank Drebin - “The cows are coming home to roost“.

It’s a great example of why healthcare should not be left at the “mercy” of the privateers and the open market. Not much “competition for greater value for money” going on here .

Each time I go to Bedd - au........................

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Collapse of Coronavirus testing deal - who's lying?? on 08:23 - Apr 2 with 2366 viewstheloneranger

Collapse of Coronavirus testing deal - who's lying?? on 04:11 - Apr 2 by Glyn1

As opposed to the scumbag corporate leeches?

It's sort of related, but one of the governors of a US state was asked yesterday why they didn't have enough testing kits. He responded that it's currently like buying something in an auction on eBay with the 50 US States bidding against each other, driving the price ever up that the pharmaceutical companies can charge. That's no way to run a health service.

You go to the US and you constantly see expensively shot TV ads for some medicine or other, encouraging desperate people to force their doctors to buy it - on the basis of a 30 second advert, which is absolutely crazy.

No doubt many of the adverts were made by Roche - please explain why you instinctively trust them? At least politicians have to go on the record to try and explain themselves, whereas the directors of a multi-national company like Roche can ignore the public as much as they want, or leave that to their PR firms. You'll have noticed that the politicians were all named, but Roche responded through a spokeswoman (not even a director of the company) who was unnamed.

But there was plenty of wriggle room in the Roche spokeswoman's reply: "a contract or agreement directly with Wales to supply testing". What the hell does that mean?
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The governor of New York Andrew Cuomo was saying exactly the same at the weekend about ventilators - with the 50 states chasing the same item, the price of a ventilator had risen from $25000 each to $45000 each in just a couple of days.

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Collapse of Coronavirus testing deal - who's lying?? on 08:47 - Apr 2 with 2336 viewsWhiterockin

Collapse of Coronavirus testing deal - who's lying?? on 04:11 - Apr 2 by Glyn1

As opposed to the scumbag corporate leeches?

It's sort of related, but one of the governors of a US state was asked yesterday why they didn't have enough testing kits. He responded that it's currently like buying something in an auction on eBay with the 50 US States bidding against each other, driving the price ever up that the pharmaceutical companies can charge. That's no way to run a health service.

You go to the US and you constantly see expensively shot TV ads for some medicine or other, encouraging desperate people to force their doctors to buy it - on the basis of a 30 second advert, which is absolutely crazy.

No doubt many of the adverts were made by Roche - please explain why you instinctively trust them? At least politicians have to go on the record to try and explain themselves, whereas the directors of a multi-national company like Roche can ignore the public as much as they want, or leave that to their PR firms. You'll have noticed that the politicians were all named, but Roche responded through a spokeswoman (not even a director of the company) who was unnamed.

But there was plenty of wriggle room in the Roche spokeswoman's reply: "a contract or agreement directly with Wales to supply testing". What the hell does that mean?
[Post edited 2 Apr 2020 4:55]


"You go to the US and you constantly see expensively shot TV ads for some medicine or other, encouraging desperate people to force their doctors to buy it - on the basis of a 30 second advert, which is absolutely crazy".

Pretty much the same as medical reps here entertaining the health profession to sway them to buy their products.
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Collapse of Coronavirus testing deal - who's lying?? on 09:13 - Apr 2 with 2320 viewschad

Soon can be cleared up WAG can show a copy of the contract or formal agreement.

If only at discussion stage then that is not a deal
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Collapse of Coronavirus testing deal - who's lying?? on 09:27 - Apr 2 with 2311 viewsjohnlangy

Collapse of Coronavirus testing deal - who's lying?? on 09:13 - Apr 2 by chad

Soon can be cleared up WAG can show a copy of the contract or formal agreement.

If only at discussion stage then that is not a deal


They said the deal was signed.
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Collapse of Coronavirus testing deal - who's lying?? on 09:54 - Apr 2 with 2281 viewsDr_Winston

Collapse of Coronavirus testing deal - who's lying?? on 09:27 - Apr 2 by johnlangy

They said the deal was signed.


Easy enough for them to provide evidence of that then.

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Collapse of Coronavirus testing deal - who's lying?? on 10:20 - Apr 2 with 2251 viewsraynor94

Collapse of Coronavirus testing deal - who's lying?? on 09:27 - Apr 2 by johnlangy

They said the deal was signed.


Let them put up then, and clear this mess up

You give it out, you take it back it`s all part of the game
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