| Is the lock down ending too soon? 04:59 - Jul 1 with 152231 views | Glyn1 |
That's basically it.
Thoughts please. [Post edited 1 Jul 2020 5:00]
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| Is the lock down ending too soon? on 05:10 - Jul 1 with 23703 views | Glyn1 |
I will say that if when I went into a pub it was to talk to people that I liked/disliked (but enjoyed the banter) or meet strangers/tourists. I don't think I'll be able do that now if I and they are forced to book a place at a table in advance. [Post edited 1 Jul 2020 5:13]
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| Is the lock down ending too soon? on 07:35 - Jul 1 with 23621 views | Treforys_Jack |
Yes |  | | |
| Is the lock down ending too soon? on 07:42 - Jul 1 with 23616 views | jack247 |
I’d have said yes a couple of weeks ago. Now, there are minimal cases new in Wales (excluding the meat processing plants) and the VE day/riots/crowds packing the beaches don’t seem to have caused the spike most of us expected. I’m going with no. |  | | |
| Is the lock down ending too soon? on 08:20 - Jul 1 with 23579 views | Scotia |
I think it is too soon to move to the English relaxation of opening everything with minimal distancing, but not soon enough in Wales.
I think we should be opening outdoor attractions, beer gardens and loosening the 5 mile limit. | | | |
| Is the lock down ending too soon? on 08:54 - Jul 1 with 23556 views | exhmrc1 |
| Is the lock down ending too soon? on 08:20 - Jul 1 by Scotia |
I think it is too soon to move to the English relaxation of opening everything with minimal distancing, but not soon enough in Wales.
I think we should be opening outdoor attractions, beer gardens and loosening the 5 mile limit. |
The 5 mile limit is being relaxed on Monday and has never been a strict limit anyway. It was a guidance figure of what staying local meant and was never written into law whilst staying local was, As far as opening up it very much appears we will be in a position to safely open things up shortly. The drop in coronavirus figures will lead to there being very few cases once the meat processing factories have all been tested and because the stay local rule has been kept in place most areas of Wales now have similar very low levels of the virus. Well done Drakeford and co for not following the policies of the idiot in number 10. | | | |
| Is the lock down ending too soon? on 09:19 - Jul 1 with 23540 views | sainthelens |
Just a guess, but perhaps Drakeford is waiting a few weeks to see any possible rise in cases in England after this weekend.
But I think Sunday morning the headlines will be carnage over the border. |  | | |
| Is the lock down ending too soon? on 09:30 - Jul 1 with 23529 views | Scotia |
| Is the lock down ending too soon? on 08:54 - Jul 1 by exhmrc1 |
The 5 mile limit is being relaxed on Monday and has never been a strict limit anyway. It was a guidance figure of what staying local meant and was never written into law whilst staying local was, As far as opening up it very much appears we will be in a position to safely open things up shortly. The drop in coronavirus figures will lead to there being very few cases once the meat processing factories have all been tested and because the stay local rule has been kept in place most areas of Wales now have similar very low levels of the virus. Well done Drakeford and co for not following the policies of the idiot in number 10. |
Perhaps he should move Mondays relaxation to Friday to encourage the biggest airline in Europe to use Cardiff airport? After all we own it. Alienating a huge business over the sake of 3 days seems idiotic to me. | | | |
| Is the lock down ending too soon? on 09:53 - Jul 1 with 23520 views | Best_loser |
Fvck knows, time will tell
Should of started sooner
It's been a total shambles from the start, the worst prime minister and cabinet ever |  | | |
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| Is the lock down ending too soon? on 10:09 - Jul 1 with 23501 views | Vincent_Vega |
| Is the lock down ending too soon? on 09:30 - Jul 1 by Scotia |
Perhaps he should move Mondays relaxation to Friday to encourage the biggest airline in Europe to use Cardiff airport? After all we own it. Alienating a huge business over the sake of 3 days seems idiotic to me. |
You mean to tell me that Cardiff airport should be making money and not be a vanity project for the ‘diff’?! What is this pseudo Bolshevism of which you speak?
In answer to the OP. Lockdown should of lifted ages ago. The idea of lockdown was to flatten the curve, as soon as that was apparent we should of gone back to normal until it spiked again and gone in for a second lockdown, possibly August to September depending on cases.
Reasons, in the non lockdown people could of got the things they needed for the second lockdown, tourism could of had a shot of some trade, families could’ve met up and.people would feel better for a break in this crap. But I hear you say, that would spread the virus. Yes it would but I’m sure we were told that 80% of people will get this virus at some point so best to get it done now so we can all move forward. Only impose lockdowns to save the burden on the nhs and care homes nothing more. |  |
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| Is the lock down ending too soon? on 10:21 - Jul 1 with 23488 views | Professor |
| Is the lock down ending too soon? on 09:53 - Jul 1 by Best_loser |
Fvck knows, time will tell
Should of started sooner
It's been a total shambles from the start, the worst prime minister and cabinet ever |
If it had been in place 10 days earlier lockdown (other than local spikes) would be over now. It seems about right for Wales and Scotland with a more cautious approach. England is a bit premature in my opinion especially given the suggestion that levels are being grossly underreported. Certainly the emerging picture in the Northwest is less positive in terms of true case numbers. | | | |
| Is the lock down ending too soon? on 11:34 - Jul 1 with 23429 views | magicdaps10 |
Lockdown will end soon.
The issue we should be worried about is come Oct to January where the virus is expected to return and potentially return harder than we have just witnessed.
It is quite clear that alot of people are not understanding what we should be doing in the new normal and their thought is that it will just go away.
Emails already sent out in certain quarters that there will be another wave and they will go with localised lockdowns rather than national lockdowns. |  |
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| Is the lock down ending too soon? on 11:44 - Jul 1 with 23404 views | pencoedjack |
| Is the lock down ending too soon? on 10:09 - Jul 1 by Vincent_Vega |
You mean to tell me that Cardiff airport should be making money and not be a vanity project for the ‘diff’?! What is this pseudo Bolshevism of which you speak?
In answer to the OP. Lockdown should of lifted ages ago. The idea of lockdown was to flatten the curve, as soon as that was apparent we should of gone back to normal until it spiked again and gone in for a second lockdown, possibly August to September depending on cases.
Reasons, in the non lockdown people could of got the things they needed for the second lockdown, tourism could of had a shot of some trade, families could’ve met up and.people would feel better for a break in this crap. But I hear you say, that would spread the virus. Yes it would but I’m sure we were told that 80% of people will get this virus at some point so best to get it done now so we can all move forward. Only impose lockdowns to save the burden on the nhs and care homes nothing more. |
Any chance you can have a chat with Drakeford fella |  | | |
| Is the lock down ending too soon? on 11:51 - Jul 1 with 23398 views | londonlisa2001 |
| Is the lock down ending too soon? on 10:21 - Jul 1 by Professor |
If it had been in place 10 days earlier lockdown (other than local spikes) would be over now. It seems about right for Wales and Scotland with a more cautious approach. England is a bit premature in my opinion especially given the suggestion that levels are being grossly underreported. Certainly the emerging picture in the Northwest is less positive in terms of true case numbers. |
The levels for England as a whole haven’t been underreported. Pillar 2 has been included throughout in the total infections.
It’s the allocation of those infections to local authority that is the issue.
This is all a bit ‘in plain sight’ though. The daily reports have stated quite clearly ‘not split by location’ since the start. It’s obvious they must have been somewhere. Perhaps local authorities have all assumed they are somewhere else, which isn’t hugely sensible.
The FT seem to be insinuating that they’ve been hidden and not reported. That’s simply not true. The breakdown has always been on the DHSC website.
This is only an issue because of a move to local lockdown rather than national. The DHSC or PHE need to be releasing the local figures to local politicians. The NHS trusts have always been in receipt of the local breakdowns. | | | |
| Is the lock down ending too soon? on 13:54 - Jul 1 with 23316 views | pikeypaul |
For the work shy teachers on full pay and the 40% who say they are better off since being furloughed, yes.
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| Is the lock down ending too soon? on 14:13 - Jul 1 with 23314 views | Vincent_Vega |
| Is the lock down ending too soon? on 11:44 - Jul 1 by pencoedjack |
Any chance you can have a chat with Drakeford fella |
I would love to but I might get too angry and the message might get lost.
It’s not just him. The whole welsh assembly needs a kick in the hoop. I understand caution but come on! | |
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| Is the lock down ending too soon? on 17:39 - Jul 1 with 23240 views | Neath_Jack |
| Is the lock down ending too soon? on 10:09 - Jul 1 by Vincent_Vega |
You mean to tell me that Cardiff airport should be making money and not be a vanity project for the ‘diff’?! What is this pseudo Bolshevism of which you speak?
In answer to the OP. Lockdown should of lifted ages ago. The idea of lockdown was to flatten the curve, as soon as that was apparent we should of gone back to normal until it spiked again and gone in for a second lockdown, possibly August to September depending on cases.
Reasons, in the non lockdown people could of got the things they needed for the second lockdown, tourism could of had a shot of some trade, families could’ve met up and.people would feel better for a break in this crap. But I hear you say, that would spread the virus. Yes it would but I’m sure we were told that 80% of people will get this virus at some point so best to get it done now so we can all move forward. Only impose lockdowns to save the burden on the nhs and care homes nothing more. |
Have, not of.
Sorry, pet hate. |  |
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| Is the lock down ending too soon? on 18:31 - Jul 1 with 23212 views | Jackinexile1 |
I was in Cardiff city centre today and it was absolutely rammed... everything open. |  | | |
| Is the lock down ending too soon? on 18:36 - Jul 1 with 23201 views | perplex |
People still can not grasp the fact that the lockdown is going to cause way more deaths from other illnesses in the long run than those caused by the virus, everyone debates is the lockdown being ended to soon or not, yet the really serious issues and impending time bomb of people not being to access early diagnosis and treatment due to the lockdown seems to not register in most mindsets. | | | |
| Is the lock down ending too soon? on 19:41 - Jul 1 with 23136 views | waynekerr55 |
| Is the lock down ending too soon? on 13:54 - Jul 1 by pikeypaul |
For the work shy teachers on full pay and the 40% who say they are better off since being furloughed, yes.
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Who are these "40%". Where is this evidence? Genuine question, Pike. |  |
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| Is the lock down ending too soon? on 19:47 - Jul 1 with 23129 views | Dr_Winston |
There's absolutely no reason for the five mile rule to still be in place, and with it the continued closure of places with self contained facilities such as campsites, holiday lets, caravan parks etc.
At the moment it looks like they're more concerned with taking less risks than England than in actually trying to salvage the economy. |  |
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| Is the lock down ending too soon? on 20:15 - Jul 1 with 23097 views | Flashberryjack |
| Is the lock down ending too soon? on 19:47 - Jul 1 by Dr_Winston |
There's absolutely no reason for the five mile rule to still be in place, and with it the continued closure of places with self contained facilities such as campsites, holiday lets, caravan parks etc.
At the moment it looks like they're more concerned with taking less risks than England than in actually trying to salvage the economy. |
Most people have been ignoring lockdown rules anyway. |  |
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| Is the lock down ending too soon? on 20:25 - Jul 1 with 23082 views | rockinjac |
| Is the lock down ending too soon? on 07:35 - Jul 1 by Treforys_Jack |
Yes |
I’m assuming you don’t run a business, work in an Industry affected
The delusion that continues to perpetuate is incredible
We are going to have 4 or 5 million unemployed and still people think it’s more important to stay at home
It’s like a madness had descended on this Country
I think there’s a lot of elitist opinion on here from people in cushy public sector jobs, people who are retired etc
Protect those that need protecting the rest of us need to be out there getting the Country back on its feet or we’ll have nothing left
The amount of damage there’ll be in terms of health will be far higher if we don’t accept reality
Constantly flabbergasted by the lefty crap on here | | | |
| Is the lock down ending too soon? on 20:29 - Jul 1 with 23076 views | Vincent_Vega |
| Is the lock down ending too soon? on 17:39 - Jul 1 by Neath_Jack |
Have, not of.
Sorry, pet hate. |
Listen with my results in gcse English all be it many moons ago I’ll take that. | |
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| Is the lock down ending too soon? on 20:31 - Jul 1 with 23068 views | Andy1300 |
| Is the lock down ending too soon? on 20:25 - Jul 1 by rockinjac |
I’m assuming you don’t run a business, work in an Industry affected
The delusion that continues to perpetuate is incredible
We are going to have 4 or 5 million unemployed and still people think it’s more important to stay at home
It’s like a madness had descended on this Country
I think there’s a lot of elitist opinion on here from people in cushy public sector jobs, people who are retired etc
Protect those that need protecting the rest of us need to be out there getting the Country back on its feet or we’ll have nothing left
The amount of damage there’ll be in terms of health will be far higher if we don’t accept reality
Constantly flabbergasted by the lefty crap on here |
This is what we should have done from the start |  |
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| Is the lock down ending too soon? on 20:31 - Jul 1 with 23069 views | Jack123 |
| Is the lock down ending too soon? on 20:15 - Jul 1 by Flashberryjack |
Most people have been ignoring lockdown rules anyway. |
I agree!! Even at the start of this, when everything was up in the air, I witnessed quite a few neighbours just carrying on as normal.
But I wii say, we need to get back to normal asap.. Just protect the elderly, and people who are vulnerable..
Being honest, I can't stand much more of it, and I have at the moment nothing to lose financially.. It's horrible :( [Post edited 2 Jul 2020 1:25]
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