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Johnson's tackle....Liverpool 21:59 - Jan 11 with 5249 viewsQPR1882

Thats why fans and players/managers get so pissed off.

Johnson plays for the next 3/4 games Kompany misses the next 4 games ( + 80 mins of the Manchester derby ). Who wins titles/cups seems more down to refs then players now days.
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Johnson's tackle....Liverpool on 22:01 - Jan 11 with 4597 viewsloftboy

Shocking tackle, would of snapped his leg had he connected.

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Johnson's tackle....Liverpool on 22:08 - Jan 11 with 4559 viewsJamie

In the name of consistency it HAS to be sanctioned.

However that would mean the FA admitting a referee made a mistake..

They won't be doing that.
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Johnson's tackle....Liverpool on 22:09 - Jan 11 with 4559 viewsWatford_Ranger

I thought they were both excellent tackles and not dangerous in the slightest.
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Johnson's tackle....Liverpool on 22:10 - Jan 11 with 4548 viewsloftboy

Johnson's tackle....Liverpool on 22:09 - Jan 11 by Watford_Ranger

I thought they were both excellent tackles and not dangerous in the slightest.


Can't tackle two footed like Johnson did, you have no control over it at all.

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Johnson's tackle....Liverpool on 22:18 - Jan 11 with 4517 viewsWatford_Ranger

Johnson's tackle....Liverpool on 22:10 - Jan 11 by loftboy

Can't tackle two footed like Johnson did, you have no control over it at all.


I know it's an illegal type of tackle but he's low down, takes a large chunk of the ball and doesn't put the opposition player in any danger imo. A competent ref should be able to have a quiet word with the player to just calm it down. Foy, as shown the other day, is incompetent whereas Mason is marginally better.
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Johnson's tackle....Liverpool on 22:28 - Jan 11 with 4476 viewsQPR1882

Johnson's tackle....Liverpool on 22:18 - Jan 11 by Watford_Ranger

I know it's an illegal type of tackle but he's low down, takes a large chunk of the ball and doesn't put the opposition player in any danger imo. A competent ref should be able to have a quiet word with the player to just calm it down. Foy, as shown the other day, is incompetent whereas Mason is marginally better.


Whilst i will agree imo neither were sending off's.If you give one you HAVE to give the other..........thems the rules.
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Johnson's tackle....Liverpool on 23:22 - Jan 11 with 4407 viewsHoopza_Lawski

It was worse than the Kompany tackle.
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Johnson's tackle....Liverpool on 00:43 - Jan 12 with 4336 viewseastside_r

And did anyone else notice the spat late on between Nasri and Carragher. How was either player's behaviour not as bad, if not worse, than JB against Norwich. (Violent intent?)
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Johnson's tackle....Liverpool on 07:20 - Jan 12 with 4270 viewsStanisgod

Johnson's tackle....Liverpool on 00:43 - Jan 12 by eastside_r

And did anyone else notice the spat late on between Nasri and Carragher. How was either player's behaviour not as bad, if not worse, than JB against Norwich. (Violent intent?)


Probably because neither one of them held their face and feigned injury to get the other sent off, unlike the Norwich cheat.

It's being so happy that keeps me going.

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Johnson's tackle....Liverpool on 10:19 - Jan 12 with 4107 viewsscot1963

i saw both tackles briefly but it would appear that the only reason kompany didn't take nani out was because he was agile enough to get out of the way. on the other hand johnson got the ball and lescott arrived after it had been cleared and then dived over johnson - totally different
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Johnson's tackle....Liverpool on 10:25 - Jan 12 with 4096 viewsQPR1882

Johnson's tackle....Liverpool on 10:19 - Jan 12 by scot1963

i saw both tackles briefly but it would appear that the only reason kompany didn't take nani out was because he was agile enough to get out of the way. on the other hand johnson got the ball and lescott arrived after it had been cleared and then dived over johnson - totally different


Both tacklers left the ground and went for the ball two footed with studs showing......rules say that is a sending off offence.


Does not matter how nimble the oppo is.................
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Johnson's tackle....Liverpool on 10:43 - Jan 12 with 4081 viewsscot1963

Johnson's tackle....Liverpool on 10:25 - Jan 12 by QPR1882

Both tacklers left the ground and went for the ball two footed with studs showing......rules say that is a sending off offence.


Does not matter how nimble the oppo is.................


yeah, but lescott appears after the event - there has to be someone else involved at or near the point of contact with the ball for it to be a dangerous tackle
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Johnson's tackle....Liverpool on 10:56 - Jan 12 with 4053 viewsJamie



Worse than Kompanys.
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Johnson's tackle....Liverpool on 10:57 - Jan 12 with 4047 viewsscot1963

Johnson's tackle....Liverpool on 10:56 - Jan 12 by Jamie



Worse than Kompanys.


have to agree to disagree on this one i think
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Johnson's tackle....Liverpool on 11:01 - Jan 12 with 4033 viewsJamie

Johnson's tackle....Liverpool on 10:57 - Jan 12 by scot1963

have to agree to disagree on this one i think


Indeed, as I cant see many others genuinely arguing it to be anything but a dangerous tackle.
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Johnson's tackle....Liverpool on 12:11 - Jan 12 with 3997 viewsStanisgod

In other words that's timed to perfection is it ? Just sheer luck that Nasri's foot insn't 6 inches further on.

It's being so happy that keeps me going.

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Johnson's tackle....Liverpool on 13:11 - Jan 12 with 3940 viewsjeffro

The only reason Johnson stayed is because no players surrounded the ref, With VK Rooney was in his face straight away, the ref played up to it!
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Johnson's tackle....Liverpool on 13:52 - Jan 12 with 3907 viewsRangersAreBack

Johnson's tackle....Liverpool on 12:11 - Jan 12 by Stanisgod

In other words that's timed to perfection is it ? Just sheer luck that Nasri's foot insn't 6 inches further on.


I think it 's about time punishments were metered out for what actually happened rather than what might have been, otherwise we risk opening up a can of worms.

Yes you could argue that he left the ground with studs showing but he made a perfect connection with the ball and absolutely none with the player. Kompany, on the other hand, took some of the player as well as the ball.
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Johnson's tackle....Liverpool on 14:07 - Jan 12 with 3880 viewsTW_R

I don't think there is a rule in football specifically stating anything about two-footed or "dangerous" tackles. I think the closest thing you have is either serious foul play or violent conduct. I think in both the Johnson and Kompany cases neither of these occurred.
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Johnson's tackle....Liverpool on 14:40 - Jan 12 with 3862 viewsSurreyHoop

Doesn't this thread perfectly illustrate just how difficult it is to be a referee.Even with the benefit of numerous camera angles and replays, people still have different opinions about whether both tackles are good or dangerous.

Referees are such easy targets for managers, players and supporters to blame them for their teams' misfortune. Yet they are human and only have a split second to make a decision without the benefit of camera replays like the rest of us are privy to.

I'm sick to the back teeth of how it has become the norm in the modern game to blame the ref for a team's defeat. What about the players on the pitch who misplace passes, choose the wrong option etc on the pitch during the course of a game-we don't hear much criticism from managers blaming their players-they seem to find it easier to blame the referee.

I appreciate that referees make howlers in matches and it is frustrating for managers and supporters alike , but they are just trying to interpret the rules of the game in a fair and honest way at pitch level in real time with no replays to watch. THEY ARE HUMAN.

If you want every decision to be correct then you will have to have every play monitored continuously to show if wrong decisions have been made and then play to be stopped and continue with a free kick, throw-in etc.

I used to be a qualified referee with Surrey FA and I can assure you it is one of the most difficult jobs to do. I think that managers and players should have to take a referees course to appreciate just how difficult the job is and to know what the rules are. How often do you see players appealing for a handball when it hasn't been deliberate?

I think the FA should try and emulate the culture of refereeing seen in Rugby Union. How refreshing it would be to see players accept the referees decision even if they don't agree with it and just get on with the bloody game.
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Johnson's tackle....Liverpool on 14:49 - Jan 12 with 3845 viewsscot1963

Johnson's tackle....Liverpool on 14:40 - Jan 12 by SurreyHoop

Doesn't this thread perfectly illustrate just how difficult it is to be a referee.Even with the benefit of numerous camera angles and replays, people still have different opinions about whether both tackles are good or dangerous.

Referees are such easy targets for managers, players and supporters to blame them for their teams' misfortune. Yet they are human and only have a split second to make a decision without the benefit of camera replays like the rest of us are privy to.

I'm sick to the back teeth of how it has become the norm in the modern game to blame the ref for a team's defeat. What about the players on the pitch who misplace passes, choose the wrong option etc on the pitch during the course of a game-we don't hear much criticism from managers blaming their players-they seem to find it easier to blame the referee.

I appreciate that referees make howlers in matches and it is frustrating for managers and supporters alike , but they are just trying to interpret the rules of the game in a fair and honest way at pitch level in real time with no replays to watch. THEY ARE HUMAN.

If you want every decision to be correct then you will have to have every play monitored continuously to show if wrong decisions have been made and then play to be stopped and continue with a free kick, throw-in etc.

I used to be a qualified referee with Surrey FA and I can assure you it is one of the most difficult jobs to do. I think that managers and players should have to take a referees course to appreciate just how difficult the job is and to know what the rules are. How often do you see players appealing for a handball when it hasn't been deliberate?

I think the FA should try and emulate the culture of refereeing seen in Rugby Union. How refreshing it would be to see players accept the referees decision even if they don't agree with it and just get on with the bloody game.


like you say - very difficult job - although i think the ref got it right. what did you think of the barton debacle from a refereeing perspective?
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Johnson's tackle....Liverpool on 14:55 - Jan 12 with 3832 viewsbob566

i love this.

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Johnson's tackle....Liverpool on 15:20 - Jan 12 with 3812 viewsSurreyHoop

Johnson's tackle....Liverpool on 14:49 - Jan 12 by scot1963

like you say - very difficult job - although i think the ref got it right. what did you think of the barton debacle from a refereeing perspective?


A situation where 2 players squared up to each other by putting their heads close up to each others faces.No head butt motion took place. Bradley Johnson over reacts which is unsporting behaviour in my opinion and should have been cautioned with a yellow card. Barton is also guilty of unsporting behaviour and should have been given a yellow at the most.

Barton wasn't guilty of serious foul play or violent conduct on this occasion.

He was perhaps only guilty of being naive and stupid for giving the referee an opportunity to apply an interpretation of the games rules, which, given his reputation runs the risk of an over reaction from opposing players and misinterpretation from referees as happened in this incident.
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Johnson's tackle....Liverpool on 15:27 - Jan 12 with 3801 viewsSurreyHoop

Johnson's tackle....Liverpool on 14:55 - Jan 12 by bob566

i love this.



Beautiful. See my point.

How good would it be to see the likes of Rooney etc. subjected to that style of refereeing in that culture and not back chatting the ref and throwing dummies out of the pram which lets not forget, wastes time as well.

They just need to know that the decision the ref makes is final and get on with it.
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Johnson's tackle....Liverpool on 15:31 - Jan 12 with 3795 viewsthemodfather

Johnson's tackle....Liverpool on 15:27 - Jan 12 by SurreyHoop

Beautiful. See my point.

How good would it be to see the likes of Rooney etc. subjected to that style of refereeing in that culture and not back chatting the ref and throwing dummies out of the pram which lets not forget, wastes time as well.

They just need to know that the decision the ref makes is final and get on with it.


did johnson make contact?
thought not....
then again he's a special one from the favoured liverpool, whatever dalglish mumbles.
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