| Thatcher dead 12:56 - Apr 8 with 92579 views | six_foot_two |
Skynews are are saying Magaret Thatcher has died of a stroke |  | | |  |
| Thatcher dead on 12:07 - Apr 9 with 2381 views | Hayesender |
| Thatcher dead on 09:29 - Apr 9 by finney |
hate to pick holes in that but the Guardian supported the Lib Dems in the last election.
Anyway i am one of them left wing cxxts i guess |
Nah you're alright Paul. You have your views, others have theirs, but at least you respect others views and don't go around burning effigies or throwing bottles at police because some old woman is dead.
I'm no fan of any politician, but come on. Celebrating on the streets ffs!!! |  |
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| Thatcher dead on 12:56 - Apr 9 with 2340 views | WarfieldHoop |
I made it through a few pages but this is all in extremely bad taste. Just because you disagree with someone's politics doesn't justify the amount of vile bitterness that's coming out. They don't come much worse than G Brown but I certainly won't revel in his death when the time comes nor wish it upon him.
.............and winning three consecutive elections speaks for itself, imo. |  | | |
| Thatcher dead on 13:06 - Apr 9 with 2320 views | simmo |
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| ask Beavis I get nothing Butthead |
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| Thatcher dead on 13:09 - Apr 9 with 2315 views | westolian |
| Thatcher dead on 12:56 - Apr 9 by WarfieldHoop |
I made it through a few pages but this is all in extremely bad taste. Just because you disagree with someone's politics doesn't justify the amount of vile bitterness that's coming out. They don't come much worse than G Brown but I certainly won't revel in his death when the time comes nor wish it upon him.
.............and winning three consecutive elections speaks for itself, imo. |
and to cap it all, the news are reporting that fully grown adults have taken time off work to beat up Police Officers in the name of an 87 yr old woman - this is 2013 isn't it ?
Or is it the unemployed miners still ?
Or is it another conspiracy ?
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| Thatcher dead on 13:23 - Apr 9 with 2286 views | Hayesender |
| Thatcher dead on 13:09 - Apr 9 by westolian |
and to cap it all, the news are reporting that fully grown adults have taken time off work to beat up Police Officers in the name of an 87 yr old woman - this is 2013 isn't it ?
Or is it the unemployed miners still ?
Or is it another conspiracy ?
Pondlife |
Work?
These cnts don't work | |
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| Thatcher dead on 13:40 - Apr 9 with 2261 views | WarfieldHoop |
| Thatcher dead on 13:23 - Apr 9 by Hayesender |
Work?
These cnts don't work |
Just a wild stab in the dark but I think it's fair to assume that most of them are the same bunch of no hopers who turn out at every chance they get to swig cheap lager whilst having a ruck for reasons that most of them don't even know. | | | |
| Thatcher dead on 13:44 - Apr 9 with 2113 views | Hayesender |
| Thatcher dead on 13:40 - Apr 9 by WarfieldHoop |
Just a wild stab in the dark but I think it's fair to assume that most of them are the same bunch of no hopers who turn out at every chance they get to swig cheap lager whilst having a ruck for reasons that most of them don't even know. |
They've just interviewed some Pete Docherty lookalike on the new and asked him why he was celebrating her death.
The idiot didn't have a clue as to why he was there, just a leftie sheep | |
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| Thatcher dead on 13:45 - Apr 9 with 2108 views | FDC |
| Thatcher dead on 10:03 - Apr 9 by Toast_R |
When will this endeavor end?
Can't believe people are still arguing about sh*t that went down over a quarter of a century ago?
What next, the pros and cons of the Triple Entente?
This is fundamentally what is wrong with the world today, people cant let go of their petty differences and bury the past and look for something positive. |
Except we are very much living through the consequences of the neoliberal policies that she and Regan implemented, aren't we? Thatcher may be dead, but Thatcherism is very much alive and kicking.
Amazes me when people say shit like "yeah but was a strong leader" or, "yeah but at least she had a back bone." Fcking great! Well that's ok then, as long as she was confident whilst implementing the devastation of future generations.
And before some moron says "Gordon Brown, wahhh", "Tony Blair", wahhhh". They and every Labour leader since have been Thatcherites too so your moronic point is void. |  | | |
| Thatcher dead on 13:52 - Apr 9 with 2083 views | real_loftus |
| Thatcher dead on 13:45 - Apr 9 by FDC |
Except we are very much living through the consequences of the neoliberal policies that she and Regan implemented, aren't we? Thatcher may be dead, but Thatcherism is very much alive and kicking.
Amazes me when people say shit like "yeah but was a strong leader" or, "yeah but at least she had a back bone." Fcking great! Well that's ok then, as long as she was confident whilst implementing the devastation of future generations.
And before some moron says "Gordon Brown, wahhh", "Tony Blair", wahhhh". They and every Labour leader since have been Thatcherites too so your moronic point is void. |
Just out of interest FDC, what age group are you? |  |
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| Thatcher dead on 13:58 - Apr 9 with 2059 views | WarfieldHoop |
| Thatcher dead on 13:45 - Apr 9 by FDC |
Except we are very much living through the consequences of the neoliberal policies that she and Regan implemented, aren't we? Thatcher may be dead, but Thatcherism is very much alive and kicking.
Amazes me when people say shit like "yeah but was a strong leader" or, "yeah but at least she had a back bone." Fcking great! Well that's ok then, as long as she was confident whilst implementing the devastation of future generations.
And before some moron says "Gordon Brown, wahhh", "Tony Blair", wahhhh". They and every Labour leader since have been Thatcherites too so your moronic point is void. |
To be honest, I don't get the case against Blair either. I think he was a good PM and a clever politician. His problems were that he took his eye off the ball in his second parliament, got too involved in Iraq and let that complete chimp of a chancellor destroy his party. | | | |
| Thatcher dead on 14:00 - Apr 9 with 2045 views | real_loftus |
I was thinking I'd have a go at reading this thread during my lunch hour. Got bored after 5 pages really.
Lots of bollox from both sides, and plenty of opinions from people who werent around in the 70s/80s.
She did plenty of great things, and plenty of shi'ite things. Not sure celebrating someone's death is particularly classy though.
Carry on. | |
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| Thatcher dead on 14:01 - Apr 9 with 2035 views | TheBlob |
| Thatcher dead on 13:45 - Apr 9 by FDC |
Except we are very much living through the consequences of the neoliberal policies that she and Regan implemented, aren't we? Thatcher may be dead, but Thatcherism is very much alive and kicking.
Amazes me when people say shit like "yeah but was a strong leader" or, "yeah but at least she had a back bone." Fcking great! Well that's ok then, as long as she was confident whilst implementing the devastation of future generations.
And before some moron says "Gordon Brown, wahhh", "Tony Blair", wahhhh". They and every Labour leader since have been Thatcherites too so your moronic point is void. |
I don't think Thatcherites would have papered the house with millions of immigrants to affect voting trends and ruin the country.
Yours sincerely
A.Moron
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| Thatcher dead on 14:16 - Apr 9 with 1995 views | Hayesender |
The alternative to Thatcher would have been Michael Foot *shudder* | |
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| Thatcher dead on 14:18 - Apr 9 with 1989 views | TacticalR |
Clive, to save some electrons, can we just summarise your view as that every problem can be explained by the last term in office of the Labour government? |  |
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| Thatcher dead on 14:21 - Apr 9 with 1978 views | TheBlob |
| Thatcher dead on 14:16 - Apr 9 by Hayesender |
The alternative to Thatcher would have been Michael Foot *shudder* |
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| Thatcher dead on 14:21 - Apr 9 with 1977 views | FDC |
| Thatcher dead on 14:01 - Apr 9 by TheBlob |
I don't think Thatcherites would have papered the house with millions of immigrants to affect voting trends and ruin the country.
Yours sincerely
A.Moron
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I'm not talking about political manoeuvring, i'm talking about the neoliberal project of systemic restructuring of society, and increasing the flexibility of the work force.
To partly answer RealLoftus, I'm young enough to fall into the 'graduate without a future' camp ((c) Paul Mason), and old enough to comfortable qualify as a member of the precariat.
And Clive. There's no way I'm getting drawn into defending party politics, and I know Thatcher's your specialist subject and all, but - if you want to talk about state spending, take a look at this graph. Welfare and state expenditure on social needs is not the be-all-and-end-all of spending deficits. Look at where these peaks are - during Tory governments, and then at the point of the 2008 crash and bank bailouts. But it makes much more political sense to go on and on and on and on and on about welfare costs.
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| Thatcher dead on 14:27 - Apr 9 with 1951 views | TheBlob |
| Thatcher dead on 14:21 - Apr 9 by FDC |
I'm not talking about political manoeuvring, i'm talking about the neoliberal project of systemic restructuring of society, and increasing the flexibility of the work force.
To partly answer RealLoftus, I'm young enough to fall into the 'graduate without a future' camp ((c) Paul Mason), and old enough to comfortable qualify as a member of the precariat.
And Clive. There's no way I'm getting drawn into defending party politics, and I know Thatcher's your specialist subject and all, but - if you want to talk about state spending, take a look at this graph. Welfare and state expenditure on social needs is not the be-all-and-end-all of spending deficits. Look at where these peaks are - during Tory governments, and then at the point of the 2008 crash and bank bailouts. But it makes much more political sense to go on and on and on and on and on about welfare costs.
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Well I can't see how untrammelled immigration is not a restructuring of society,add to the "flexibility"of the subsequent unemployed and the strain on resources. | |
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| Thatcher dead on 14:31 - Apr 9 with 1945 views | THEBUSH |
And you think Thatcher would have told Bush to shove it ? |  | | |
| Thatcher dead on 14:34 - Apr 9 with 1934 views | FDC |
| Thatcher dead on 14:27 - Apr 9 by TheBlob |
Well I can't see how untrammelled immigration is not a restructuring of society,add to the "flexibility"of the subsequent unemployed and the strain on resources. |
To clarify Blob, I'm saying that the identifiable policy regime, starting in the 80s with Regan and Thatcher, continues right up to the present moment, where it is experiencing crisis but as yet staggers on. So I'm saying that Labour and Tory alike fall within this ideological arc, varying in flavour and PR at times, but crucially the same.
So when you say that one party is like the other, I largely agree! I mean immigration and outsourcing are fundamental to neoliberalism, right? It displaces the problem - now the enemy are Polish brickies or Chinese factory workers. Globalisation massively disadvantages any kind of the worker organising too of course, which is absolutely fundamental to Thatcherism and the response to the 70s.
Anyway, enough of this - I suspect we won't come to a resolution *this* lunchtime! | | | |
| Thatcher dead on 14:37 - Apr 9 with 1922 views | TheBlob |
| Thatcher dead on 14:34 - Apr 9 by FDC |
To clarify Blob, I'm saying that the identifiable policy regime, starting in the 80s with Regan and Thatcher, continues right up to the present moment, where it is experiencing crisis but as yet staggers on. So I'm saying that Labour and Tory alike fall within this ideological arc, varying in flavour and PR at times, but crucially the same.
So when you say that one party is like the other, I largely agree! I mean immigration and outsourcing are fundamental to neoliberalism, right? It displaces the problem - now the enemy are Polish brickies or Chinese factory workers. Globalisation massively disadvantages any kind of the worker organising too of course, which is absolutely fundamental to Thatcherism and the response to the 70s.
Anyway, enough of this - I suspect we won't come to a resolution *this* lunchtime! |
Deal.Would fancy giving the whole mess the elbow for a bit. | |
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| Thatcher dead on 14:42 - Apr 9 with 1908 views | SonofNorfolt |
| Thatcher dead on 14:31 - Apr 9 by THEBUSH |
And you think Thatcher would have told Bush to shove it ? |
& do you think that Blair was given a choice?
Another thing that gets me is the council house fiasco.
The irony of the 'I'm alright Jack' culture, as highlighted by that serial simpleton Hollowayranger.
Council houses were for people that could not afford to buy, then they were virtually given them.
How was this fair?
There is or should never have been a 'right' to buy.
Otherwise me or anyone else should have been given the same rights. |  | | |
| Thatcher dead on 14:46 - Apr 9 with 1895 views | TheBlob |
| Thatcher dead on 14:42 - Apr 9 by SonofNorfolt |
& do you think that Blair was given a choice?
Another thing that gets me is the council house fiasco.
The irony of the 'I'm alright Jack' culture, as highlighted by that serial simpleton Hollowayranger.
Council houses were for people that could not afford to buy, then they were virtually given them.
How was this fair?
There is or should never have been a 'right' to buy.
Otherwise me or anyone else should have been given the same rights. |
http://righttobuy.communities.gov.uk/?utm_source=Google&utm_medium=PPC&utm_campa | |
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| Thatcher dead on 14:47 - Apr 9 with 1894 views | Pommyhoop |
It was funny waving imaginary wads of cash at Northern fans and shouting Loadsa Money tho .Do they blame Maggie for that or Harry Enfield? |  |
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| Thatcher dead on 14:54 - Apr 9 with 1873 views | THEBUSH |
Yeah, but Pinochet was a mate of hers, so Reagan had her full backing, that's for sure.
I think she would have gone along with Bush jnr, in Iraq, although as you say it's hard to speculate.
Don't think Blair had much option but to go along with Bush and as you say, was too weak to say NO !! | | | |
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