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Refwatch - Rochdale v Southend United
at 19:51 28 Dec 2025

Grimsby, Oldham and Scunthorpe in the AWS?

Or are there others?
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Refwatch - Rochdale v Southend United
at 19:44 28 Dec 2025

Yes, it’s all on the individual league to decide. The only recent example I’m aware of, though not weather related, is Scunthorpe at Eastleigh this season when there was a bad injury in added time. The game was replayed in full.
Scunthorpe were also given the win against Wealdstone when the visitors “made clear our view that the correct outcome was for Scunthorpe United to be awarded the three points".

Those listed were the only games that came up after a quick search looking at games abandoned due to weather. It was in reply to a previous post which mentioned a precedent should be followed at the “professional level” which indicated there were plenty where the result has stood. Was wondering where that particular precedent was illustrated, if it was specific to the NL, which games? - no National League matches came up (it wasn’t an extensive search). Not to say that there aren’t examples which others may know about.

Can’t be certain of course, but would think most of the decision centres around the reason I believe it should be replayed - that both sides should have the opportunity to complete a match that hasn’t been played to its conclusion.
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Refwatch - Rochdale v Southend United
at 16:47 28 Dec 2025

The most recent example would be Blackburn v Ipswich which was, ironically, abandoned the day we were due to play Southend in September. Called off after 79 mins, replayed in December.

Quick google search: There were games in 2006 at Watford and Sunderland where games were replayed after the original matches were abandoned due to a waterlogged pitch. Similar at Man City when they played Ipswich at Maine Road in 1994. Ipswich probably don’t like heading to the north west when it rains…

At Dale, there was the Grimsby around this time of year in 2005. That game was replayed the following March.

Having used the phrase “plenty of others where the result was allowed to stand”, it was presumed there may be information that backed that up - ie. Examples of games that were abandoned because of the weather where the result stood.
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Refwatch - Rochdale v Southend United
at 16:06 28 Dec 2025

I’m not saying the referees obvious error should matter when it comes to a decision. It was stating an opinion that he quite obviously got it wrong by allowing the game to continue for as long as it did.

Have you a list of the games that were abandoned because of the weather where results stood? It’d be interesting to look at the dates of these and whether the current rules may have seen them replayed.
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Refwatch - Rochdale v Southend United
at 15:44 28 Dec 2025

And he deemed it unplayable before the game could finish and before a multitude of other things could have happened, which is why it should be replayed.

That he didn’t beforehand was his error and the game was a farce.

Both teams in a football match deserve the opportunity to complete it.
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Refwatch - Rochdale v Southend United
at 14:29 28 Dec 2025

We shouldn’t be awarded the win anyway. We only took the lead due to the pitch being unplayable and not sure anyone can claim we deserve the three points.
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Refwatch - Morecambe v Rochdale
at 20:40 26 Dec 2025

The centre forward position does need addressing, especially as Amantchi wasn’t even on the bench today. We can’t expect Henderson to keep starting games and although he’s definitely contributed to our attacking play, we didn’t retain the ball well enough in the final third today.
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Refwatch - Morecambe v Rochdale
at 20:23 26 Dec 2025

Henderson’s performances at no.9 at the back end of last season meant he was always an option, but a forgotten one whilst Mani stayed fit. McBride has stepped up well, even though I wish he’d have more faith in himself in front of goal. Pritchard’s ability to play in the same forward role as McBride on the opposite side has helped Henderson in that lone central striker position too, they seem to be on the same wavelength.

Pritchard’s departure at half time has been a bit overlooked because of how well Burger did, but it’s to be hoped he isn’t injured again. If nothing else because it reduces our options at LWB.
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Refwatch - Morecambe v Rochdale
at 20:04 26 Dec 2025

I’m not a massive advocate for it. My posts over the year should (hopefully!) reflect that I prefer attacking, effective football. Right now, with the way we retain the ball and play so cleverly in a tactical way, we are also capable of switching it up by going more direct leading to decent football and decent results. We got in behind twice early on down the right due to this. Two poor crosses by TAR spoilt it though.

It’s reached the stage that seeing a group of players who obviously enjoy playing in a particular style whilst getting results is what matters, even if I might find parts of that frustrating.

There’s enough Dale teams down the years who have had plenty more faults and not been anywhere near as successful as this one!
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Refwatch - Morecambe v Rochdale
at 19:57 26 Dec 2025

Yeah, that familiarity is what Gilmour has mentioned in interviews. Those who’ve been here that long have been committed to the system and way of playing for three seasons. It’s taken time, building the squad and a lot of patience. We might not all agree with it all of the time, there’s plenty of times I haven’t and still don’t, but it’s obvious that the manager, his staff and the team are all in with it.

The almost 2 points a game at home last season, improved on this year with a stellar away record has most certainly backed up the results business theory. It’s also another example of how going all Carlisle (or Savage) when we do stumble, as could have happened today, won’t help.
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Refwatch - Morecambe v Rochdale
at 19:35 26 Dec 2025

It was said the boring football would keep fans away when we were going for promotion last season, in reality it was always a results business. As a team, Dale have evolved to ensure the preferred way of playing is both effective and, more often than not, quite entertaining.

At Spotland, we’ve been getting consistent results for two seasons now, adding that on the road is capitalising on what home fans witness each week.
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Refwatch - Morecambe v Rochdale
at 19:28 26 Dec 2025

The game has undoubtedly changed over the last few years. Whilst we continue to retain the ball by going sideways and backwards, what we have done is added better players and developed different options when we do it. The amount of times we got in behind today after playing forward suddenly from the back was very noticeable in the first half.

TAR benefits from it a lot - see the third goal at Altrincham - and McBride should have scored today from that ball into him but he decided to try and pass. We’ve perfected how to shift the opposition to open up areas further forward, the East/TAR/Gordon triumvirate are where we benefit most from it at present after the opposition are drawn in by us going backwards or sideways.
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Refwatch - Morecambe v Rochdale
at 19:14 26 Dec 2025

That tactic is part of how we play, it might be frustrating at times but the players know exactly what they’re doing. There are plenty of examples this season of how it’s resulted in a goal.

Note the Savage interview today. He’s taking responsibility apparently… yet still blaming players.
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Refwatch - Morecambe v Rochdale
at 17:05 26 Dec 2025

Great win. Didn’t play that well but you’ve got to have the steel to get results in games like that and we have that.

There is so much obvious confidence in each other that they can respond to adversity and still remain consistent to the overall plan knowing it will get a result.

Requiring York to have a sticky patch? It’s only one game, but that creates doubt. They have it. We don’t.

A word for Jake Burger - never let us down, played in various positions displaying lots of potential and today he came on at half time and was our MotM in the second half. Everything good we did went through him. There’s a real player there, hope we see him become one at Dale.
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Refwatch - Morecambe v Rochdale
at 16:25 26 Dec 2025

Can’t tell me that Galvin offers more than Tutonda.
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Refwatch - Morecambe v Rochdale
at 14:01 26 Dec 2025

Same team. Mancini replaces Amantchi on the bench.
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Update on the pitch
at 17:53 24 Dec 2025

Watching that end battle in Avengers at 0.25 is much the same.
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Allarakhia at the AFCON
at 18:27 23 Dec 2025

He had a real chance just before the break that he’ll be disappointed he didn’t do better with. Ball laid off on the edge of the box but hit his effort straight at the keeper.
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Refwatch - Altrincham v Rochdale
at 12:25 22 Dec 2025

I think we have the best constructed squad in the league with respect to how we play, how players fit in and how well coached they are. There should be no doubts about our potential to win the league, it was obvious from pre season that we have all the attributes to do that. We can’t control how other teams do, only ourselves. If York do continue as they are, fair play. Apart from the last day we can do nothing about that.

Losing the odd game here and there will happen, as it has already. When we do we have proven we respond, so the calmness seen by the management and the squad should be replicated amongst everyone when it happens again. If not, it risks a Carlisle-type scenario. Doubt creates doubt.
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Refwatch - Altrincham v Rochdale
at 20:50 21 Dec 2025

Hughes said after he’s out for five weeks so any move may be up in the air now.

Lots of criticism again today, including from their own player Kelly in an interview after. They’ll be a playoff side at best.
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