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Garnacho goal of the season
at 10:47 29 Nov 2023

If he does not win it united fans will blame VAR, they blame everything else on that!
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Oldham Thread
at 16:39 21 Oct 2023

Immensely proud of our defence šŸ˜ 
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Hereford match thread - BBC radio commentary
at 16:35 14 Oct 2023

Big Jim McSouthgate football again!
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Match Thread: Kidderminster vs Dale
at 16:05 9 Sep 2023

Complete polar opposite of Keith Hills no fear football. Utter shite!
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Taurus and the Sandy/Wilbutts gate
at 11:23 3 Sep 2023

Sorry for my lack of knowledge in some areas regarding the figures but has anyone looked at the possibility of buying the board out and becoming fully fans owned? I donā€™t see any reason at all this could not be a legitimate possibility if done in the right way. Iā€™m basing this on the trust being majority shareholders but Iā€™m not sure if the exact figures.

Letā€™s assume we are now losing 15k a week, it may be that itā€™s less than that now but it seems a fair figure based on players who have gone that were big earners. Based on the figures we have for staff this can be trimmed, sure it may involve some upset people but we have to face reality and get to a sustainable position. I believe the catering is up for renewal so bring it in house, get the pies gravy peas bovril back and add a few other bits, it worked in the pat and nothing has changed. Give the option of adding a pie peas gravy and drink to the season ticket price and issue vouchers which will help in pre deciding the amount of things needed.

Get the lotteryā€™s back in house, yes itā€™s going to take time but employ a consultant with experience at the club, even if itā€™s just to oversee things a day a week, and yes I can think of a few people ideal to do this.

Would CD come in as chairman and help the trust with the view to his shares being purchased in the future on a gradual basis with him remaining chairman? Remaining shares owned by the board could be purchased off gauge and co, again on a staggered basis with the option to sell if we get an investor, either way he gets his funds back.

So how many staff do we really need? Obviously CEO and other roles are necessary but there are so many part time or casual staff do we use? In the past we did a lot of these jobs as fans, has that changed? Would people sell programs or golden goal tickets or whatever for a free season ticket or entry? I expect so. If the trust asked for say Ā£10 a month (or more if people wish) to be paid by direct debit to fund share purchases, that could be transferred to the payee in the future if they wished, would there be a decent uptake? I think there would be!

Finally itā€™s my belief that the fans as a whole have much more nous than the current board, here alone we have 1 or more person capable of understanding and communicating the legalityā€™s and procedures required to run a football club and want to help. We have business owners, accountants, Financial advisors, HR specialists, recruitment consultants, catering managers, we cover every area there is between us. I would give my time and skills for free, as Iā€™m sure many many others would in order to get the club back to where it should be.

I see no reason why this could not be done and everyone is happy!
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Ebbsfleet United (H) - Match Thread
at 18:31 5 Aug 2023

Their goal a fluke really he wonā€™t get another like that in his career. Clear penalty early in the game, not given by ref who looks average at best. Cameron John is about as good as that gangling Cisse for them. Clumsy, slow, weak, always in space, gets ball wanders forward 5 yards, stops and passes it back is all John does. Left side in general has done nothing. Centre mid looks decent Sinclair lively and deserve to be level overall.
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EGM
at 10:37 28 Jul 2023

There is of course the other option of actually running the club like a real business. The board got us into this position and now they decide the fans and shareholders are worth talking to because they need something. The message changes every few months and this has not suddenly happened, itā€™s been on the ways for months / years.

We are losing Ā£30k a week thatā€™s black and white, so how about getting it down to Ā£25k a week to start with, pretty easy to do with any half decent level of financial acumen. Improve the commercial department so it works and sells what is wanted or make it all online with collection available from the ticket office or items posted. Offer a monthly scheme where you can pay x amount per month into an account with the club thatā€™s converted into shares at the end of each year, making admin minimal.

The option of borrowing against the assets is another easy option by those too lazy or incompetent to run a football club properly. We have sold players and had all the season ticket money so where has that all suddenly gone? There are so many unanswered questions and so many things I suspect they donā€™t want to answer.

Iā€™m not being negative for the sake of it and as I have said Iā€™m 99% sure the motives of SG and RK are good, but itā€™s those in the future as well, if the club is sold and the charge on the club remains with the potential new owners, which it easily could, we are into bURY territory potentially. Sounds dramatic but itā€™s very possible.
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EGM
at 10:00 27 Jul 2023

Fantastic post TS. Nail on the head totally!

We donā€™t have the required information to cast a vote with real confidence but the reason we donā€™t have this is that we get snippets as and when it suits. I donā€™t trust SG and his ability to run a football club and nothing since the stopping of the hostile takeover has been done with any level of sensible forward planning or competence.

I have said many times that we are in a fortunate position that we have a lot of fans that would offer their skills and knowledge free of charge, but instead we pay for management consultants. If the club are losing 30k a week then release the full costs in detail with names excluded to the trust and get people capable of helping with this involved. If we have to sign a confidentiality clause I would be happy to do that.

1.5m losses sound a lot but reducing it dramatically is not that difficult, and remember whoā€™s tenure these losses have come under. I donā€™t know SG personally but 2 years plus of poor communication, basic errors, lack of foresight and an attitude that is not endearing leads me to think we need a change.

This emperor needs to wake up and realise his shiny suit does not exist and those he treats as children that know nothing may actually know a lot more than he does!
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EGM
at 20:38 26 Jul 2023

Maybe the management consultant firm was not for the clubs benefit, more for the benefit of SG, who has been told the full extent of the chaos that the club is now in and he wants out ASAP, but canā€™t get out as nobody wants to buy the club, and having debts secured on the assets is the next best option.

Iā€™m sure he originally had good intentions (as well as being a chairman of a football club looks good and fuel egos) but the more I read the more I see a desperate man trying to get out and get his cash back. Nothing has suddenly happened to make this need to be rushed through, itā€™s just the longer it takes the more questions will be asked!
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EGM
at 18:13 26 Jul 2023

Iā€™m afraid I donā€™t believe a bloody word they say now, they have reacted to the criticism and put a story together, how much if any of it is true lord knows!

If we are that skint then itā€™s due to their total lack of acumen when it comes to running a football club. You donā€™t employ a management consultant if you know what youā€™re doing and itā€™s desperate measures time. They want their cash back and if we agree to allowing them to borrow on the back of assets they will get it back!

They have realised that they have money in something that is essentially a money pit because they are not up to turning it around, but they wonā€™t take a hit on the share price to get out (which I believe that CD and co were looking to do)

I would urge everyone to vote no to this, if we have to cut staff and be ruthless so be it, but this stinks of smoke and mirrors from the bloody start, as has much of the behaviour of the board. Remember Bottomley, this is exactly the kind of thing he would do thinking he is smarter than these clueless fans!

Incidentally, they could in theory get a loan secured on the assets, then purchase the shares they need to get a controlling majority of the club, then do what the hell they like. Itā€™s a way to get out and make a profit and in my opinion we should be bloody wary.
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Credit Where Its Due...
at 20:34 12 Jul 2023

Plenty of time I have been critical of the club but this is just what is needed. Getting it back how it was when things like this were the rule not the exception.

All looked really engaging with the lad and as said they looked like they enjoyed it as well, not sure who it was walking into the pitch on his own (dark hair and stubble) but he said a few words to the lad and seemed really interested as well. Iā€™m hoping it was James ball and that this season he stands out in the Matty Lund type role.

Anyway well done to the club and BJ excellent Ć°Åøā€˜Ā
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Credit Where Its Due...
at 18:15 12 Jul 2023

Plenty of time I have been critical of the club but this is just what is needed. Getting it back how it was when things like this were the rule not the exception.

All looked really engaging with the lad and as said they looked like they enjoyed it as well, not sure who it was walking into the pitch on his own (dark hair and stubble) but he said a few words to the lad and seemed really interested as well. Iā€™m hoping it was James ball and that this season he stands out in the Matty Lund type role.

Anyway well done to the club and BJ excellent Ć°Åøā€˜Ā
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Pat McCourt
at 20:43 10 Jul 2023

Thatā€™s him a shoe in for a presenters job at the BBC then!
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Adam Clayton
at 20:41 10 Jul 2023

Cracking signing! Expect this to create a real Rattle and Hum around town! Just hope New Years Day performance is up to standard!
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Good on FGR......Groundbreaking as ever.
at 10:12 5 Jul 2023

Vance would support ā€œJust Stop Breathingā€ if it got him publicity.
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Dev & Ty make most expensive NL starting11
at 11:50 3 Jul 2023

If we get offered Ā£400k total for Rodney and Sinclair they wonā€™t be here long!!!
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Jimmy Keohane signs on for another year
at 10:53 25 Jun 2023

All depends on which hernia he has how long it is going to take to recover. I recently had a triple hernia op and itā€™s not a complicated procedure really but as said above, they all require rest!

Just having a hernia can make you feel lousy if you overdo it so I would definitely be giving him some grace on last season. Does make you wonder why he did not immediately have the op once it was clear we were heading down, but common sense seems to have left the building years ago!
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Matheson released by Wolves
at 10:45 5 Jun 2023

Totally agree. Every player at our level has deficiencies which is why they are at our level. So he may lack physically but he is quick, aggressive, great going forward and loves the club. He and Jim have a great relationship and if he is affordable would say he would be a fantastic signing. I donā€™t necessarily think he has regressed as a player just that he has not had enough game time and he needs to develop on the pitch and be allowed the odd mistake.

Sadly I canā€™t see it happening as I think he will go to a club higher up the food chain.
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Released lists
at 17:41 10 May 2023

He will be on his way to bury to help the new revolution and will pay subs just for the honour of playing for them!
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4up 4 down
at 10:08 22 Apr 2023

They should adapt the same format they do in IPL in the cricket for the play offs, although they use it to decide the final. Assume that 2 go up outright itā€™s then.

3 plays 4 1 match winner gets to final
5 plays 6 winner gets to take on the loser of 3 vs 4 the other is out
Match one plays match 2 winner gets to play off final
Winner of final promoted.

Itā€™s a much fairer way than current system as the better sides can in effect lose win win and get promotion whereas weaker sides need to win all 3.
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