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First two Leicester Goals 11:28 - Dec 6 with 5111 views

First I know swans were rubbish yesterday, but first goal was handball second goal clear offside. I know we're not good but these decisions were wrong goals change games.

First two Leicester Goals on 11:33 - Dec 6 with 3800 views

Pegojack

The old saying is true, when you're at the bottom, nothing goes your way.

The second goal was definitely offside. I was sitting directly in line with the goalscorer at the moment the ball was passed and saw it for myself in real time. It was proved later on MOTD.

As for the first goal, WTF don't we have players on the post at corners?
Leighton James made the point again on the BBC Wales phone in, and he was spot on.

First two Leicester Goals on 11:38 - Dec 6 with 3772 views

Dan_Swan

First two Leicester Goals on 11:33 - Dec 6 by Pegojack

This, we've been saying it for a long time. From memory Leon has done this in the past, not the tallest granted but still a body there who could have prevented the first goal.

Still following Dr's orders!

First two Leicester Goals on 11:38 - Dec 6 with 3768 views

Darran

The first goal has to go down to Monk for picking that f*cking cart horse in the first place.

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First two Leicester Goals on 11:41 - Dec 6 with 3744 views

Neath_Jack

First two Leicester Goals on 11:38 - Dec 6 by Darran
The first goal has to go down to Monk for picking that f*cking cart horse in the first place.

Nothing to do with Ki who was marking him when the corner came in?

How far do we take play back to get to the root cause?

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First two Leicester Goals on 11:44 - Dec 6 with 3720 views

Darran

First two Leicester Goals on 11:41 - Dec 6 by Neath_Jack
Nothing to do with Ki who was marking him when the corner came in? How far do we take play back to get to the root cause?

Only back to the root cause.
Come on J he's f*cking gash.

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First two Leicester Goals on 11:46 - Dec 6 with 3704 views

Neath_Jack

First two Leicester Goals on 11:44 - Dec 6 by Darran
Only back to the root cause. Come on J he's f*cking gash.

He's been better than Ash since he's come into a very poor performing side.

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First two Leicester Goals on 11:49 - Dec 6 with 3682 views

Darran

First two Leicester Goals on 11:46 - Dec 6 by Neath_Jack
He's been better than Ash since he's come into a very poor performing side.

Yeah ok crack on.

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First two Leicester Goals on 11:54 - Dec 6 with 3653 views

jack247

First two Leicester Goals on 11:41 - Dec 6 by Neath_Jack
Nothing to do with Ki who was marking him when the corner came in? How far do we take play back to get to the root cause?

Inexplicably dribbling out for a corner when under no pressure seems a pretty logical place to start.

Corner certainly should have been defended properly, but there's your root cause.

First two Leicester Goals on 12:09 - Dec 6 with 3620 views

Neath_Jack

First two Leicester Goals on 11:54 - Dec 6 by jack247
Inexplicably dribbling out for a corner when under no pressure seems a pretty logical place to start. Corner certainly should have been defended properly, but there's your root cause.

Forgive me if i imagined what happened but i saw it totally different from you. What i saw was Bartley attempting to shepherd the ball out for a goal kick but lost his nerve when a Leicester player started bearing down on him with the ball travelling very slowly to the by-line.

Anyone got footage of it?

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First two Leicester Goals on 12:10 - Dec 6 with 3615 views

jack_the_lad

First two Leicester Goals on 11:54 - Dec 6 by jack247
Inexplicably dribbling out for a corner when under no pressure seems a pretty logical place to start. Corner certainly should have been defended properly, but there's your root cause.

Agree giving the corner away was poor, but if the opposition are allowed to score with a basketball shot it's gonna be difficult to stop.

First two Leicester Goals on 12:11 - Dec 6 with 3609 views

Dr_Winston

First two Leicester Goals on 12:09 - Dec 6 by Neath_Jack
Forgive me if i imagined what happened but i saw it totally different from you. What i saw was Bartley attempting to shepherd the ball out for a goal kick but lost his nerve when a Leicester player started bearing down on him with the ball travelling very slowly to the by-line. Anyone got footage of it?

Looked like it held up on the turf quicker than he expected.

Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back.

First two Leicester Goals on 12:14 - Dec 6 with 3593 views

Darran

First two Leicester Goals on 12:09 - Dec 6 by Neath_Jack
Forgive me if i imagined what happened but i saw it totally different from you. What i saw was Bartley attempting to shepherd the ball out for a goal kick but lost his nerve when a Leicester player started bearing down on him with the ball travelling very slowly to the by-line. Anyone got footage of it?

He had plenty of time to put it out for a throw it's just that he can't play football very well.

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First two Leicester Goals on 12:17 - Dec 6 with 3583 views

Neath_Jack

First two Leicester Goals on 12:14 - Dec 6 by Darran
He had plenty of time to put it out for a throw it's just that he can't play football very well.

He attempted to, but sliced it.

I'm sure captain fantastic would have done better though.

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First two Leicester Goals on 12:20 - Dec 6 with 3556 views

Darran

First two Leicester Goals on 12:17 - Dec 6 by Neath_Jack
He attempted to, but sliced it. I'm sure captain fantastic would have done better though.

Yeah I think he would have.

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First two Leicester Goals on 12:24 - Dec 6 with 3531 views

libertyx

First two Leicester Goals on 12:09 - Dec 6 by Neath_Jack
Forgive me if i imagined what happened but i saw it totally different from you. What i saw was Bartley attempting to shepherd the ball out for a goal kick but lost his nerve when a Leicester player started bearing down on him with the ball travelling very slowly to the by-line. Anyone got footage of it?

Exactly what I saw. Bartley tried to shield the ball out but totally panicked when Vardy came near him. Bartley should have been stronger and continued what he was doing and seen the ball out.

First two Leicester Goals on 12:29 - Dec 6 with 3507 views

skippyjack

Is Neath Jack serious?

He cost us the first goal against Bournemouth for being rash and stupid. inexperienced.
He almost scored an own goal from a simple interception. inexperienced
He cost us the first goal against Leicester.. for hesitating to put his boot through it. inexperienced

He has also been out of position for every goal we have conceded. inexperienced
He has also been rash, by giving away needless freekicks. inexperienced

he has been absolutely woeful and out of his depth for 3 games.

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First two Leicester Goals on 12:29 - Dec 6 with 3504 views

Pegojack

First two Leicester Goals on 12:24 - Dec 6 by libertyx
Exactly what I saw. Bartley tried to shield the ball out but totally panicked when Vardy came near him. Bartley should have been stronger and continued what he was doing and seen the ball out.

Or played percentage football and put it into Row Z for a throw in, as I said in another thread. He did neither, because he panicked and got caught between two alternatives.

Not good enough for the Premier League, would suit a League One or lower Championship side (which is what we might be soon)..

[Post edited 6 Dec 2015 12:37]

First two Leicester Goals on 12:40 - Dec 6 with 3451 views

Nookiejack

First two Leicester Goals on 11:54 - Dec 6 by jack247
Inexplicably dribbling out for a corner when under no pressure seems a pretty logical place to start. Corner certainly should have been defended properly, but there's your root cause.

Totally agree - you make your own luck. We had to be denfensivley so tight yesterday - couldn't afford to be open against Leicester with their lightening counter attack.

In my view should have played like Norwich did when we played them at home.

Poor defensive goals and lack of goals upfront (only Ayew looks like he has the composure to score a goal when we get into a goal scoring position) is a recipe for relegation.

Tighten up defence straight away (which would be first thing Pulis and Allardyce would do) then see what happens.

First two Leicester Goals on 12:41 - Dec 6 with 3443 views

Nookiejack

First two Leicester Goals on 12:40 - Dec 6 by Nookiejack

.....when we played Nirwich away

First two Leicester Goals on 12:42 - Dec 6 with 3442 views

jack247

First two Leicester Goals on 12:17 - Dec 6 by Neath_Jack
He attempted to, but sliced it. I'm sure captain fantastic would have done better though.

Of course he would have. You or I would have.

If you are as physically imposing as Bartley and can't shepherd a ball out, even without the football sense to judge its pace, you have issues. Once that isn't going to happen, there is no excuse for not being able to find touch from the position he was in.

First two Leicester Goals on 12:50 - Dec 6 with 3416 views

Darran

First two Leicester Goals on 12:29 - Dec 6 by Pegojack
Or played percentage football and put it into Row Z for a throw in, as I said in another thread. He did neither, because he panicked and got caught between two alternatives. Not good enough for the Premier League, would suit a League One or lower Championship side (which is what we might be soon).. [Post edited 6 Dec 2015 12:37]

Spot on.

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First two Leicester Goals on 13:23 - Dec 6 with 3351 views

LeonisGod

First two Leicester Goals on 11:33 - Dec 6 by Pegojack

That's two goals in 3 home games which we wouldn't have conceded if we had a man on the near post. Rather ironic considering Garry blocked one on the line in the PO final.

Things like that cost us dear atm. Although there's no way Leicester should have got that corner yesterday.

First two Leicester Goals on 13:53 - Dec 6 with 3281 views

Neath_Jack

First two Leicester Goals on 12:42 - Dec 6 by jack247
Of course he would have. You or I would have. If you are as physically imposing as Bartley and can't shepherd a ball out, even without the football sense to judge its pace, you have issues. Once that isn't going to happen, there is no excuse for not being able to find touch from the position he was in.

Aye, because captain fantastic never makes mistakes does he. Mr dependable, Mr Always Get's It Right.

Nah, lets all blame Bartley for a goal because he's an easy target. Let's not question Ki's schoolboy defending for the subsequent corner, you know, a complete different passage of play which allowed captain fantastic to arrange the players to defend it. Nah, let's go for Bartley instead.

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First two Leicester Goals on 13:56 - Dec 6 with 3262 views

ploppy

Agreed Bartley could have done better but our defending at corners is shocking. Ki and Sigurdsson are more interested in wrestling with players (and Ki doesn't do it very well), Ash can't jump (it's taken me a while to realise this, coz I'm a big fan of his) and Bartley ... well, nuff said. We don't have one defender who attacks the ball. Bony was our best defender at corners - we miss him as much for that as for his goals.

First two Leicester Goals on 14:09 - Dec 6 with 3231 views

jack247

First two Leicester Goals on 13:53 - Dec 6 by Neath_Jack
Aye, because captain fantastic never makes mistakes does he. Mr dependable, Mr Always Get's It Right. Nah, lets all blame Bartley for a goal because he's an easy target. Let's not question Ki's schoolboy defending for the subsequent corner, you know, a complete different passage of play which allowed captain fantastic to arrange the players to defend it. Nah, let's go for Bartley instead.

Not because he is an easy target, because of his shambolic attempt to clear the ball. If Williams or Ki had done that, they would have been the root cause of the goal. Nothing difficult to follow there surely?

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