| transfers 20:40 - Jan 2 with 8896 views | digswellhoop |
manager says busy jan Please no more from Scotland as most have been poor |  | | |  |
| transfers on 15:31 - Jan 7 with 2700 views | DylanP |
Given how minimal the contribution of Sykes and Bonne has been, it is hard to imagine how Murray could be anything other than an upgrade, even if he is slowing down. I think our current two strikers have maybe two goals fro open play, both tap ins. |  |
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| transfers on 15:38 - Jan 7 with 2667 views | Gloucs_R |
| transfers on 15:31 - Jan 7 by DylanP |
Given how minimal the contribution of Sykes and Bonne has been, it is hard to imagine how Murray could be anything other than an upgrade, even if he is slowing down. I think our current two strikers have maybe two goals fro open play, both tap ins. |
Bonne scored a cracking header.... |  |
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| transfers on 15:39 - Jan 7 with 2664 views | Myke |
| transfers on 15:31 - Jan 7 by DylanP |
Given how minimal the contribution of Sykes and Bonne has been, it is hard to imagine how Murray could be anything other than an upgrade, even if he is slowing down. I think our current two strikers have maybe two goals fro open play, both tap ins. |
They actually have three! And to be fair, none were 'tap-ins'. Two thumping headers from Bonne (earned us three points) and a lovely finish from Dykes v Brentford, which, sadly, earned us nothing. | | | |
| transfers on 15:50 - Jan 7 with 2613 views | Metallica_Hoop |
Furs was older I think when he relegated Luton with that lovely header right in front of me. |  |
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| transfers on 16:58 - Jan 7 with 2436 views | PinnerPaul |
| transfers on 15:50 - Jan 7 by Metallica_Hoop |
Furs was older I think when he relegated Luton with that lovely header right in front of me. |
Surely his two most famous goals were the play off semi final winner and the one up at Hillsborough - saw both live but, like you the one v Sheff Weds was right in front of me as well - happy days! | | | |
| transfers on 17:49 - Jan 7 with 2268 views | rsonist |
| transfers on 13:00 - Jan 7 by BostonR |
I suspect that even in his current advanced geriatric condition, he would have finished 50% of the nailed-on chances this team has missed this season. |
Not so sure that strikers not finishing nailed-on chances is the story this season. |  | | |
| transfers on 17:58 - Jan 7 with 2239 views | Jogo |
What's the difference between Glenn Murray and Matt Smith?
Thought a big slow front man didn't fit into Warburton's ideology. |  | | |
| transfers on 18:19 - Jan 7 with 2185 views | distortR |
| transfers on 12:42 - Jan 7 by ted_hendrix |
I'd have Murray here in a heartbeat. |
didn't he score 1 league goal last season?
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| transfers on 19:00 - Jan 7 with 2060 views | ozexile |
| transfers on 17:58 - Jan 7 by Jogo |
What's the difference between Glenn Murray and Matt Smith?
Thought a big slow front man didn't fit into Warburton's ideology. |
We'll be in the market for a big german centre half soon. | | | |
| transfers on 19:01 - Jan 7 with 2051 views | Gloucs_R |
| transfers on 19:00 - Jan 7 by ozexile |
We'll be in the market for a big german centre half soon. |
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| transfers on 19:11 - Jan 7 with 2002 views | ed_83 |
On paper, definitely. But he's only made two starts this season, hasn't played at all since November, and has scored a grand total of one league goal in the last season and a half. Not massively confident about a 37 year old player shaking off that level of rustiness in the time we'd need him to. I guess Rangel hadn't played much when we signed him and did okay though.
I can see how it'd make sense, particularly in terms of the experience he'd bring to the team, and i obviously don't want to write off players before they've even signed for us, but I'm a bit worried about this one.
edit: that's a reply to the post saying Murray would be an upgrade on our current strikers, sorry! [Post edited 7 Jan 2021 19:11]
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| transfers on 19:25 - Jan 7 with 1962 views | derbyhoop |
| transfers on 19:11 - Jan 7 by ed_83 |
On paper, definitely. But he's only made two starts this season, hasn't played at all since November, and has scored a grand total of one league goal in the last season and a half. Not massively confident about a 37 year old player shaking off that level of rustiness in the time we'd need him to. I guess Rangel hadn't played much when we signed him and did okay though.
I can see how it'd make sense, particularly in terms of the experience he'd bring to the team, and i obviously don't want to write off players before they've even signed for us, but I'm a bit worried about this one.
edit: that's a reply to the post saying Murray would be an upgrade on our current strikers, sorry! [Post edited 7 Jan 2021 19:11]
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seems a fair summary.
PROs - experience, record
CONs- age, pace fitness |  |
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| transfers on 19:40 - Jan 7 with 1912 views | Myke |
| transfers on 19:11 - Jan 7 by ed_83 |
On paper, definitely. But he's only made two starts this season, hasn't played at all since November, and has scored a grand total of one league goal in the last season and a half. Not massively confident about a 37 year old player shaking off that level of rustiness in the time we'd need him to. I guess Rangel hadn't played much when we signed him and did okay though.
I can see how it'd make sense, particularly in terms of the experience he'd bring to the team, and i obviously don't want to write off players before they've even signed for us, but I'm a bit worried about this one.
edit: that's a reply to the post saying Murray would be an upgrade on our current strikers, sorry! [Post edited 7 Jan 2021 19:11]
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Rangel did very well for us. Difference is, with a defender the more experienced you are, the less need for speed as you can anticipate what will happen. Whereas, with a striker if you lose that sharpness, that natural instinct , it tends to reduce the amount of opportunities in and around the six yard box. Personally, If we were choosing a striker who was a bit past his shelf-life, I would try and bring in, you know your man with WBA, who used to be a bit handy here before. | | | |
| transfers on 20:16 - Jan 7 with 1794 views | LowerloftLad |
| transfers on 19:40 - Jan 7 by Myke |
Rangel did very well for us. Difference is, with a defender the more experienced you are, the less need for speed as you can anticipate what will happen. Whereas, with a striker if you lose that sharpness, that natural instinct , it tends to reduce the amount of opportunities in and around the six yard box. Personally, If we were choosing a striker who was a bit past his shelf-life, I would try and bring in, you know your man with WBA, who used to be a bit handy here before. |
glenn Murray's experience off the field will just be as valuable to dykes,bonne, and especially kelman. |  |
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| transfers on 20:32 - Jan 7 with 1733 views | DavieQPR |
Trouble is we need it on the field now not possibly later. |  | | |
| transfers on 09:34 - Jan 8 with 1336 views | gazza1 |
Glen Murray.....too many limitations.
We, our scouts, coaches and manager, etc, should be putting a lot more effort into getting a better player in on loan than Glen Murray if that is what we are planning. | | | |
| transfers on 09:44 - Jan 8 with 1296 views | Metallica_Hoop |
| transfers on 16:58 - Jan 7 by PinnerPaul |
Surely his two most famous goals were the play off semi final winner and the one up at Hillsborough - saw both live but, like you the one v Sheff Weds was right in front of me as well - happy days! |
I meant Furs was older than Murray when he scored that goal, so technically you're never too old.
Not sure Murray would be any good but might help our inexperienced strikers. | |
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| transfers on 09:50 - Jan 8 with 1276 views | francisbowles |
| transfers on 09:34 - Jan 8 by gazza1 |
Glen Murray.....too many limitations.
We, our scouts, coaches and manager, etc, should be putting a lot more effort into getting a better player in on loan than Glen Murray if that is what we are planning. |
I think we have to be realistic about this. If a better one was available on loan at a cost we can stretch to then I think we would be trying for him but so would other clubs.
As it is, my guess is that we are trying to get the cost down as he is on Premier League wages. I'm not sure whether Watford are contracted to keep him for the season. If they are then they may be persuaded to contribute to the salary. | | | |
| transfers on 09:58 - Jan 8 with 1254 views | gazza1 |
| transfers on 09:50 - Jan 8 by francisbowles |
I think we have to be realistic about this. If a better one was available on loan at a cost we can stretch to then I think we would be trying for him but so would other clubs.
As it is, my guess is that we are trying to get the cost down as he is on Premier League wages. I'm not sure whether Watford are contracted to keep him for the season. If they are then they may be persuaded to contribute to the salary. |
If there isn't better out there at the prices that we can afford I would suggest that we are doomed........contrary to firm belief I feel that if we get a decent striker to go with what we already have here we will climb the table to maybe around 10th position. | | | |
| transfers on 10:04 - Jan 8 with 1231 views | robith |
| transfers on 17:58 - Jan 7 by Jogo |
What's the difference between Glenn Murray and Matt Smith?
Thought a big slow front man didn't fit into Warburton's ideology. |
Glen Murray is 6 foot, Matt Smith is 6 foot 4.
Wouldn't exactly call Murray big |  | | |
| transfers on 12:41 - Jan 8 with 1102 views | Myke |
| transfers on 20:16 - Jan 7 by LowerloftLad |
glenn Murray's experience off the field will just be as valuable to dykes,bonne, and especially kelman. |
True. If he could weigh in with 5 or 6 and provide off the field 'assists' to our other strikers then he might be worth a punt | | | |
| transfers on 12:43 - Jan 8 with 1090 views | Myke |
| transfers on 10:04 - Jan 8 by robith |
Glen Murray is 6 foot, Matt Smith is 6 foot 4.
Wouldn't exactly call Murray big |
6 foot not tall? Guess no hope for my 5'8" then  | | | |
| transfers on 13:07 - Jan 8 with 1014 views | Monners69 |
| transfers on 19:00 - Jan 7 by ozexile |
We'll be in the market for a big german centre half soon. |
brilliant - but probably true | | | |
| transfers on 13:47 - Jan 8 with 902 views | johncharles |
| transfers on 17:58 - Jan 7 by Jogo |
What's the difference between Glenn Murray and Matt Smith?
Thought a big slow front man didn't fit into Warburton's ideology. |
Matt Smith is 31, Glenn Murray is 37, that’s thirty seven years old !! [Post edited 8 Jan 2021 13:51]
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| transfers on 13:54 - Jan 8 with 875 views | BlackAndGoldRanger |
SSN just said we are in discussions with WBA for a loan move for Charlie Austin.... | | | |
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