| Swansea City v Reading : Match day Thread 2022/23 UPDATED 09:05 - Oct 16 with 16462 views | KeithHaynes |
The not Not Loyal match day thread fresh from the beating at Burnley to the battlefields of the Preseli mountains ish.
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Referee : JAMES BELL
Lino’s : Adam Crysell and Sam Lewis
Fourth Official : Andy Davies
The NL review. James Bell, also known as ding dong to his few friends has been a referee since he was four years of age. His first red card he gave to his next door neighbour at the age of five, his family moved home at that point but didn’t tell him. He was raised in the orphanage for potentially parentless young referees but quickly made his escape to the North Lancashire leagues where his first appointment was with make up manufacturer Avon. He would be lifted up and ring the potential clients doorbell. In school he earned the nickname ‘End’ After qualifying at 14, James Bell primarily officiated games at his secondary school and in the Sheffield & District Junior League. Initially balancing his refereeing and playing commitments, he chose the former and steadily progressed through the system, earning promotion onto the National List of assistant referees at the age of 23.
Bell assisted on both the 2016 FA Youth Cup Final between Manchester City v Chelsea and the 2017 League Two Play-Off Final between Blackpool v Exeter City at Wembley Stadium before choosing the refereeing pathway. He took charge of the National League Play-Off Final between Harrogate Town v Notts County in 2020 before receiving promotion onto the National Group. Bell has since taken charge of semi-finals of each of the EFL Trophy, FA Trophy, FA Sunday Cup, FA Youth Cup and FA County Youth Cup.
Swansea City: Steven Benda; Nathan Wood, Harry Darling, Ben Cabango; Joel Latibeaudiere, Jay Fulton, Matt Grimes (captain), Matty Sorinola; Luke Cundle, Ollie Cooper; Michael Obafemi.
Substitutes: Andy Fisher, Olivier Ntcham, Liam Cullen, Armstrong Oko-Flex, Fin Stevens, Kyle Naughton, Josh Thomas.
Reading: Joe Lumley, Tom Holmes, Tom McIntyre, Jeff Hendrick, Tom Ince, Yakou Meite, Andy Yiadom (captain), Tyrese Fornah, Mamadou Loum, Junior Hoilett, Amadou Mbengue.
Substitutes: Dean Bouzanis, Andy Carroll, Shane Long, Lucas Joao, Baba Rehman, Ovie Ejaria, Nesta Guinness-Walker.
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| Swansea City v Reading : Match day Thread 2022/23 UPDATED on 22:37 - Oct 18 with 1320 views | raynor94 |
| Swansea City v Reading : Match day Thread 2022/23 UPDATED on 22:33 - Oct 18 by angryjack |
Lol |
But you're judgement has proved flawed on numerous occasions, so nothing to see here |  |
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| Swansea City v Reading : Match day Thread 2022/23 UPDATED on 22:39 - Oct 18 with 1302 views | swan_si |
| Swansea City v Reading : Match day Thread 2022/23 UPDATED on 22:28 - Oct 18 by Dr_Winston |
I think people may be slightly overstating how well we did tonight. In the first half we huffed and puffed and didn't create much at all. Midfield was a yawning chasm, Grimes did more to slow down our attacks than half of their players, and the lack of pace in the team overall was a huge handicap.
Second half was much better. Oko-Flex showed what we were missing out wide and we actually started looking for the forward pass. Still too hesitant in there at times, and the way we immediately started sitting back after going in front will be punished by better teams than Reading.
We got the win, but could easily have lost against a very mediocre team. We'll have to do a lot better than that if we have designs on promotion. |
Sorry, I didn't see that game, I saw a game where they came to frustrate us with time wasting and 11 men defending happy to settle for a draw, they scored from poor defending, if the ref had awarded us the penalties that was so obvious, it would have changed their game plan totally, we were much the better team and thoroughly deserved the win. |  | | |
| Swansea City v Reading : Match day Thread 2022/23 UPDATED on 22:43 - Oct 18 with 1291 views | dantheswansman |
| Swansea City v Reading : Match day Thread 2022/23 UPDATED on 22:39 - Oct 18 by swan_si |
Sorry, I didn't see that game, I saw a game where they came to frustrate us with time wasting and 11 men defending happy to settle for a draw, they scored from poor defending, if the ref had awarded us the penalties that was so obvious, it would have changed their game plan totally, we were much the better team and thoroughly deserved the win. |
I am so glad someone else saw the same game as me, reading comments on here i wasn't sure |  | | |
| Swansea City v Reading : Match day Thread 2022/23 UPDATED on 22:48 - Oct 18 with 1252 views | swan65split |
| Swansea City v Reading : Match day Thread 2022/23 UPDATED on 22:10 - Oct 18 by Sirjohnalot |
To comc back from 2-0 down after getting stuffed on Saturday shows the self belief that Martin has instilled into this side. They could easily have collapsed tonight. Brilliant man management with the subs too, explaining decisions when they came off.
This man will take us up. |
Hopefully!
Still some work to do, and too think with those points weve thrown away, we could be way out in front.
Still, onwards and upwards.......hopefully. |  | | |
| Swansea City v Reading : Match day Thread 2022/23 UPDATED on 22:50 - Oct 18 with 1238 views | magicdaps10 |
| Swansea City v Reading : Match day Thread 2022/23 UPDATED on 22:43 - Oct 18 by dantheswansman |
I am so glad someone else saw the same game as me, reading comments on here i wasn't sure |
Always judge what you see with your own eyes.
The trouble comes when eyes see what the pride doesn't want to accept........the brain then goes into overtime.
We made 2 mistakes and got punished, we were denied 2 penalties that were clear pens and scored 3 good goals and are only 3 points off top spot thrown in. |  |
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| Swansea City v Reading : Match day Thread 2022/23 UPDATED on 22:59 - Oct 18 with 1178 views | PatchesOHoulihan |
| Swansea City v Reading : Match day Thread 2022/23 UPDATED on 22:09 - Oct 18 by vetchonian |
spin what
there you go stirring it up....using the word haters. |
And the word facts instead of opinion |  |
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| Swansea City v Reading : Match day Thread 2022/23 UPDATED on 23:12 - Oct 18 with 1116 views | Fireboy2 |
| Swansea City v Reading : Match day Thread 2022/23 UPDATED on 22:33 - Oct 18 by angryjack |
Lol |
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| Swansea City v Reading : Match day Thread 2022/23 UPDATED on 23:15 - Oct 18 with 1110 views | lifelong |
| Swansea City v Reading : Match day Thread 2022/23 UPDATED on 22:36 - Oct 18 by Dr_Winston |
Grimes had a good game against Sunderland. He was a million miles away from that tonight.
Played more square balls than a lego football team. |
He was excellent against Sunderland, he had a good game this evening, in my opinion,I think he’s a very skilful player. |  | | |
| Swansea City v Reading : Match day Thread 2022/23 UPDATED on 23:24 - Oct 18 with 1090 views | jack247 |
| Swansea City v Reading : Match day Thread 2022/23 UPDATED on 22:39 - Oct 18 by swan_si |
Sorry, I didn't see that game, I saw a game where they came to frustrate us with time wasting and 11 men defending happy to settle for a draw, they scored from poor defending, if the ref had awarded us the penalties that was so obvious, it would have changed their game plan totally, we were much the better team and thoroughly deserved the win. |
Agree with this.
They started with 5 across the back and invited us to try to break them down. We’re obviously going to have a lot of possession when opponents are that negative.
They scored with their two first half chances due to a combination of naive defending and inept refereeing.
I’d imagine the possession percentage didn’t drop too much until we equalised. We were camped in their half. From 2-2 they showed a lot more intent and had a lot more territory and possession.
Much the better team? Probably, because Reading were content to let us have the ball and territory for two thirds of the game. I didn’t actually think we played that well tonight, or that our second half performance was dramatically different to the first (didn’t think Oko-Flex had that much impact). When Reading changed their approach, they gave us less territory and possession, but left more gaps for us to attack.
Either way, we could have crumbled going two down in the first half. Kudos for chipping away and getting the result. |  | | |
| Swansea City v Reading : Match day Thread 2022/23 UPDATED on 23:34 - Oct 18 with 1058 views | Badlands |
Not a fan of Grimes but he was My MoM tonight.
Great comeback after gifting two goals. |  |
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| Swansea City v Reading : Match day Thread 2022/23 UPDATED on 23:37 - Oct 18 with 1053 views | Boundy |
| Swansea City v Reading : Match day Thread 2022/23 UPDATED on 23:15 - Oct 18 by lifelong |
He was excellent against Sunderland, he had a good game this evening, in my opinion,I think he’s a very skilful player. |
Yes his passing is safe but rarely gets caught on the ball , , a sign of a good player is he knows where it's going before receiving it and he does that well | |
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| Swansea City v Reading : Match day Thread 2022/23 UPDATED on 23:53 - Oct 18 with 1007 views | KeithHaynes |
| Swansea City v Reading : Match day Thread 2022/23 UPDATED on 23:24 - Oct 18 by jack247 |
Agree with this.
They started with 5 across the back and invited us to try to break them down. We’re obviously going to have a lot of possession when opponents are that negative.
They scored with their two first half chances due to a combination of naive defending and inept refereeing.
I’d imagine the possession percentage didn’t drop too much until we equalised. We were camped in their half. From 2-2 they showed a lot more intent and had a lot more territory and possession.
Much the better team? Probably, because Reading were content to let us have the ball and territory for two thirds of the game. I didn’t actually think we played that well tonight, or that our second half performance was dramatically different to the first (didn’t think Oko-Flex had that much impact). When Reading changed their approach, they gave us less territory and possession, but left more gaps for us to attack.
Either way, we could have crumbled going two down in the first half. Kudos for chipping away and getting the result. |
Darlings was fouled for me. | |
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| Swansea City v Reading : Match day Thread 2022/23 UPDATED on 23:54 - Oct 18 with 1004 views | RichardO |
Should he have awarded them a penalty towards the end of the game? I'm happy the Ref was so poor. | | | |
| Swansea City v Reading : Match day Thread 2022/23 UPDATED on 00:07 - Oct 19 with 978 views | Boundy |
| Swansea City v Reading : Match day Thread 2022/23 UPDATED on 23:54 - Oct 18 by RichardO |
Should he have awarded them a penalty towards the end of the game? I'm happy the Ref was so poor. |
From Bendas punch clearing the ball , if so I thought not | |
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| Swansea City v Reading : Match day Thread 2022/23 UPDATED on 00:19 - Oct 19 with 970 views | Fireboy2 |
| Swansea City v Reading : Match day Thread 2022/23 UPDATED on 23:53 - Oct 18 by KeithHaynes |
Darlings was fouled for me. |
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| Swansea City v Reading : Match day Thread 2022/23 UPDATED on 00:25 - Oct 19 with 954 views | RichardO |
Two cases of bad defensive play for their goals.
Won a couple of corners in the first half after not really getting players in or attacking their penalty area enough.
One of our corner set pieces paid off.
Second half got a bit more pace on the wings which meant the attacking midfielders could get in the box instead of holding outside to make an option to pass.
Great sniffer goal by Cooper and it looks like we will be shouting SHOOT every time Fulton gets the ball in an oppositions half.
What happened then seemed like absolute chaos substitutions, numerous positional changes, Oko Flex the sub being subbed.
A deserved win because Reading weren't allowed to offer much( only what we gave them).
Another 3 points won yea! [Post edited 19 Oct 2022 0:32]
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| Swansea City v Reading : Match day Thread 2022/23 UPDATED on 00:29 - Oct 19 with 951 views | RichardO |
| Swansea City v Reading : Match day Thread 2022/23 UPDATED on 00:07 - Oct 19 by Boundy |
From Bendas punch clearing the ball , if so I thought not |
If Benda did get a punch then I would agree it wouldn't be a penalty , as it was nothing was awarded so it wasn't a penalty. happy days. | | | |
| Swansea City v Reading : Match day Thread 2022/23 UPDATED on 05:49 - Oct 19 with 849 views | jack247 |
| Swansea City v Reading : Match day Thread 2022/23 UPDATED on 23:53 - Oct 18 by KeithHaynes |
Darlings was fouled for me. |
No doubt. And the ref took too long waving Fulton back on for the first, which didn’t directly cause the goal, but players were scrambling around trying to cover each others positions while Reading attacked. We’d have been better set defensively if he’d been allowed back on quickly.
Both still avoidable though. Darling could have easily cleared his before getting into the exchange in which he was fouled. | | | |
| Swansea City v Reading : Match day Thread 2022/23 UPDATED on 06:15 - Oct 19 with 822 views | angryjack |
| Swansea City v Reading : Match day Thread 2022/23 UPDATED on 23:12 - Oct 18 by Fireboy2 |
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| Swansea City v Reading : Match day Thread 2022/23 UPDATED on 07:17 - Oct 19 with 727 views | PatchesOHoulihan |
| Swansea City v Reading : Match day Thread 2022/23 UPDATED on 23:53 - Oct 18 by KeithHaynes |
Darlings was fouled for me. |
He probably was fouled but under that pressure he should have dealt with it better, either back to keeper or get rid
Allowed himself to get into a position which ultimately cost us a goal
Fouled ? yes probably
Avoidable? Definitely | |
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| Swansea City v Reading : Match day Thread 2022/23 UPDATED on 07:19 - Oct 19 with 726 views | Treforys_Jack |
| Swansea City v Reading : Match day Thread 2022/23 UPDATED on 07:17 - Oct 19 by PatchesOHoulihan |
He probably was fouled but under that pressure he should have dealt with it better, either back to keeper or get rid
Allowed himself to get into a position which ultimately cost us a goal
Fouled ? yes probably
Avoidable? Definitely |
Needed to be stronger. |  | | |
| Swansea City v Reading : Match day Thread 2022/23 UPDATED on 07:51 - Oct 19 with 678 views | STID2017 |
| Swansea City v Reading : Match day Thread 2022/23 UPDATED on 07:17 - Oct 19 by PatchesOHoulihan |
He probably was fouled but under that pressure he should have dealt with it better, either back to keeper or get rid
Allowed himself to get into a position which ultimately cost us a goal
Fouled ? yes probably
Avoidable? Definitely |
I was just thinkin " Kick it into the East Stand".
Fouled or not he put himself under unnecessary pressure |  |
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| Swansea City v Reading : Match day Thread 2022/23 UPDATED on 07:55 - Oct 19 with 673 views | STID2017 |
| Swansea City v Reading : Match day Thread 2022/23 UPDATED on 22:14 - Oct 18 by vetchonian |
we won great comeback but we gifted them 2 goals
Hopefully Martin has learnt from tonight that reverting to the process is not good.
the changes he made half time changed things
if he continues to pick Cooperand and carries on with the second half tactics he could well become a half decent manager |
Steady.
Almost like you praised RM then ...
Excellent win tonight.
Great turnaround and all credit to RM and the players | |
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| Swansea City v Reading : Match day Thread 2022/23 UPDATED on 07:58 - Oct 19 with 665 views | Whiterockin |
| Swansea City v Reading : Match day Thread 2022/23 UPDATED on 23:53 - Oct 18 by KeithHaynes |
Darlings was fouled for me. |
Agreed, as I said we were 2-0 down due to bad refereeing decisions including penalties.
What some fail to appreciate is the match lasts 90 minutes plus. A manager sets his team up to start a match and has a game plan. This changes depending on how the opposition respond, score, you can also add in injuries and players on or off form. Statistics like possession can change depending on the way the opposition play and the score. A good manager and Martin is becoming this are proactive during a game and changes tact, often several times during a match. This was not the case against a very good Burnley side, probably the best in the division and criticism was due. Last night the game management by RM was first class and praise should be given. 6 wins out of 8 does not happen by chance, but by a team who are playing for the manager and understand fully what he expects. The talk in the past of the players having no faith in Martin and wanting him out were clearly shown last night as complete rubbish. |  | | |
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