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Putin 07:37 - Sep 13 with 7850 viewsmangohilljack

"If NATO approves the use of their long-range missiles to strike Russia then we will interpret that as a declaration of war and respond accordingly"

And it does NOT look like he was bluffing.

The gravity of this situation indicates that all parties involved need to tread very very carefully and engage in diplomatic efforts to avoid full-scale confrontation.

With the democrats itching for WW3, the next 50 or so days could be the most dangerous in our history.
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Putin on 08:05 - Sep 13 with 3762 viewsonehunglow

Most dangerous man and country in the world
A killer

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Putin on 08:15 - Sep 13 with 3755 viewsfelixstowe_jack

If Russia withdraws from Ukraine the war is over.

Russia invaded Ukraine fact
Russia started the war fact
Russia is using weapons and hardware supplied by China, Iran and North Korea to attack Ukraine fact.

Yet somehow Putin does not want Ukraine to use weapons supplied by other countries to legally defend itself.

Putin is the problem not Ukraine or NATO.

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Putin on 08:21 - Sep 13 with 3728 viewsonehunglow

Putin on 08:15 - Sep 13 by felixstowe_jack

If Russia withdraws from Ukraine the war is over.

Russia invaded Ukraine fact
Russia started the war fact
Russia is using weapons and hardware supplied by China, Iran and North Korea to attack Ukraine fact.

Yet somehow Putin does not want Ukraine to use weapons supplied by other countries to legally defend itself.

Putin is the problem not Ukraine or NATO.


And Putin should accept the eastern bloc of old is dead but still hated by those who were enslaved by it

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Putin on 09:15 - Sep 13 with 3677 viewscontroversial_jack

Putin on 08:15 - Sep 13 by felixstowe_jack

If Russia withdraws from Ukraine the war is over.

Russia invaded Ukraine fact
Russia started the war fact
Russia is using weapons and hardware supplied by China, Iran and North Korea to attack Ukraine fact.

Yet somehow Putin does not want Ukraine to use weapons supplied by other countries to legally defend itself.

Putin is the problem not Ukraine or NATO.


If you think Putin is the problem then you don't want Medvedev in charge.

NATO, has been goading Russia for decades, this is the result.
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Putin on 09:15 - Sep 13 with 3688 viewsAnotherJohn

Unfortunately, there are times when the Western countries have to stand up to autocratic regimes. NATO is a formidable enemy, and it should send out the appropriate signals to Putin to make it absolutely clear that if push gives way to shove there will be incoming. The bigger long-term risk is appeasement. As others have said, Russia could end the war tomorrow by halting the invasion of Ukraine.
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Putin on 09:20 - Sep 13 with 3674 viewscontroversial_jack

Putin on 09:15 - Sep 13 by AnotherJohn

Unfortunately, there are times when the Western countries have to stand up to autocratic regimes. NATO is a formidable enemy, and it should send out the appropriate signals to Putin to make it absolutely clear that if push gives way to shove there will be incoming. The bigger long-term risk is appeasement. As others have said, Russia could end the war tomorrow by halting the invasion of Ukraine.


That's not going to happen, Putin is not for turning. He believes the security of Russia from NATO encroachment is at stake here.

It's like the Cuban missile crisis all over again and let's hope it has a satisfactory ending
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Putin on 12:36 - Sep 13 with 3555 viewsDJack

NATO encroachment, you say...

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2024/09/16/russias-espionage-war-in-the-arcti

It is far better to grasp the universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring. - Carl Sagan

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Putin on 12:42 - Sep 13 with 3550 viewsonehunglow

Putin on 09:20 - Sep 13 by controversial_jack

That's not going to happen, Putin is not for turning. He believes the security of Russia from NATO encroachment is at stake here.

It's like the Cuban missile crisis all over again and let's hope it has a satisfactory ending


Neither was Nikita until Kennedy made him realise Armageddon wouod affect Russia too.
Putin needs to understand that Russia can be destroyed like thecrestvofvthecwirld
A forking maniac

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Putin on 13:30 - Sep 13 with 3475 viewscontroversial_jack

Putin on 12:42 - Sep 13 by onehunglow

Neither was Nikita until Kennedy made him realise Armageddon wouod affect Russia too.
Putin needs to understand that Russia can be destroyed like thecrestvofvthecwirld
A forking maniac


The US put missiles in Europe pointing at Moscow, so Russia sited some in Cuba. the US took them down first
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Putin on 13:35 - Sep 13 with 3482 viewsonehunglow

Vlad is not very forgiving is he ?
Russia has history to revenge

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Putin on 13:54 - Sep 13 with 3477 viewstheloneranger

Putin on 13:30 - Sep 13 by controversial_jack

The US put missiles in Europe pointing at Moscow, so Russia sited some in Cuba. the US took them down first


Which missiles did the US take down first??

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Putin on 14:58 - Sep 13 with 3442 viewsRhonddaSwans

Yeah this is to look strong to his country that still think they are the ussr.
Not being funny but he can’t even take Ukraine.
Let alone the rest of Europe.

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Putin on 15:29 - Sep 13 with 3430 viewsJoesus_Of_Narbereth

Putin on 13:35 - Sep 13 by onehunglow

Vlad is not very forgiving is he ?
Russia has history to revenge


They’ve been perennial losers really.

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Putin on 16:35 - Sep 13 with 3391 viewscontroversial_jack

Finland has already backed down, stating, we won't attack Russia and we won't let our land be used for weapons. So much for NATO.
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Putin on 16:43 - Sep 13 with 3383 viewscontroversial_jack

Putin on 13:54 - Sep 13 by theloneranger

Which missiles did the US take down first??


PGM-19 Jupiter
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Putin on 17:30 - Sep 13 with 3314 viewstheloneranger

Putin on 16:43 - Sep 13 by controversial_jack

PGM-19 Jupiter


Some of the Russian missiles on Cuba were dismantled early November 1962, and the US PGM-19 Jupiter missiles weren't dismantled in Italy and Turkey until early April 1963.

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Putin on 19:00 - Sep 13 with 3251 viewscontroversial_jack

Putin on 17:30 - Sep 13 by theloneranger

Some of the Russian missiles on Cuba were dismantled early November 1962, and the US PGM-19 Jupiter missiles weren't dismantled in Italy and Turkey until early April 1963.


The US had diplomatic problems with Italy over the removal, but the agreement was made prior to that
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Putin on 21:44 - Sep 13 with 3192 viewsBoundy

Putin on 19:00 - Sep 13 by controversial_jack

The US had diplomatic problems with Italy over the removal, but the agreement was made prior to that


So after the crisis had long abated?

"In a free society, the State is the servant of the people—not the master."

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Putin on 21:50 - Sep 13 with 3192 viewsWingstandwood



Rt Hon Grant Shapps who was part of the Tory goverment that couldn't even protect U.K borders from thousands of illeagal migrants, criminals and foreign organised crime gangs is rather keen to be gung-ho elsewhere?

Argus!

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Putin on 22:02 - Sep 13 with 3106 viewsWingstandwood


Argus!

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Putin on 22:03 - Sep 13 with 3102 viewsOhyeah

Sorry but seems to me like the political & industrial elites are dragging us into this..

Lets hope they send their sons & daughters to the front line along with the wokerati and the newcomers..

Why should UK lives be lost to protect another countries democracy when the way its going we may have very little ourselves..
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Putin on 22:05 - Sep 13 with 3091 viewscontroversial_jack

Putin on 21:44 - Sep 13 by Boundy

So after the crisis had long abated?


Pledges had been made by both sides. Whatever, if forced the Americans to remove the missiles
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Putin on 22:14 - Sep 13 with 3086 viewsWingstandwood

Putin on 22:03 - Sep 13 by Ohyeah

Sorry but seems to me like the political & industrial elites are dragging us into this..

Lets hope they send their sons & daughters to the front line along with the wokerati and the newcomers..

Why should UK lives be lost to protect another countries democracy when the way its going we may have very little ourselves..


I am no Putin fan-boy, BUT I guess he raises a very correct point that if Russia is attacked by a weapon system that is manufactured, operated and directed via a foreign power situated an ocean away from Ukrainian soil, then it is the foreign power that is responsible.

So right on the democracy point, crackers ain't it!

Argus!

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Putin on 22:19 - Sep 13 with 3067 viewsDJack

Putin on 22:03 - Sep 13 by Ohyeah

Sorry but seems to me like the political & industrial elites are dragging us into this..

Lets hope they send their sons & daughters to the front line along with the wokerati and the newcomers..

Why should UK lives be lost to protect another countries democracy when the way its going we may have very little ourselves..


Obvious troll is obvious.

How many "buzzwords" can you sock-puppets use in a day...industrial elites, my arris. Stick to MIC you fool as the rest of us can't keep up.

It is far better to grasp the universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring. - Carl Sagan

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Putin on 22:33 - Sep 13 with 3028 viewsScotia

I just don't see why NATO / the West would or should authorize weapons to be used inside Russia, nobody needs to.

Defending Ukraine is one thing, attacking Russia is another.

Putin has obviously made an arse of himself and his country let him carry on.
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