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Thames Water management rewarded for failure yet again. 17:11 - Dec 10 with 702 viewssaintmark1976

According to the B B C the company has :-

1, £16 Billion pounds of debt.

2, Has asked the water regulator to be allowed to increase consumers bills by 59% over 5 years.

3, Their record recently on allowing effluent to be pumped into waterways is worse than ever.

Yet their executives have just received £770,000 in bonus payments on top of their salaries.

Why did the Conservative Government allow this to happen over 14 years and equally importantly why are the current Labour Government allowing any sort of bonuses whatsoever to be paid ?
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Thames Water management rewarded for failure yet again. on 17:19 - Dec 10 with 666 viewsHeisenberg

Thatcher sold them off. It all started with her. They should all be publicly owned.

“Life has become immeasurably better since I have been forced to stop taking it seriously'
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Thames Water management rewarded for failure yet again. on 18:34 - Dec 10 with 580 viewsInTimeAddedOn

Thames Water management rewarded for failure yet again. on 17:19 - Dec 10 by Heisenberg

Thatcher sold them off. It all started with her. They should all be publicly owned.


Their executives should be fined £770,000 for polluting our waterways not paid bonuses
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Thames Water management rewarded for failure yet again. on 19:30 - Dec 10 with 543 viewsIfonly

Poor regulation has allowed Thames to be badly run, no doubt, but the issue with sewage being pumped into waterways is not that simple and will be very difficult to solve.

The reason it happens (mostly) is due to heavy rainfall overwhelming the system. That leaves only 2 options, allow the discharge into waterways, or let the water back up from the treatment plants and spill out of our toilets into our homes. The first option seems like the best one to me.

The size of this problem has increased significantly due to much heavier and intense rainfall, which is probably due to climate change. Over the last decade, winters have been 25% wetter than the decade to 1990. That's a hell of a lot more water to deal with.

https://yaleclimateconnections.org/2024/06/how-is-climate-change-affecting-uk-ra

Other contributing factors have been greater urbanisation (water falling on a hard surface runs into the drains instead of being absorbed into the ground) and population growth (immigration) leading to more sewage.

The amount of infrastructure that water companies build to deal with this is agreed each year with the regulator. If the regulator had insisted on more then it would have been built, but it would have been difficult to build enough to cope with how the climate has changed, even if they'd known in advance it was going to happen. It's also one of those problems that are impossible to eliminate completely, no matter how much infrastructure is built.

So feel free to flog the company bosses but that won't actually solve the problem.
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Thames Water management rewarded for failure yet again. on 20:54 - Dec 10 with 488 viewssaintmark1976

Thames Water management rewarded for failure yet again. on 19:30 - Dec 10 by Ifonly

Poor regulation has allowed Thames to be badly run, no doubt, but the issue with sewage being pumped into waterways is not that simple and will be very difficult to solve.

The reason it happens (mostly) is due to heavy rainfall overwhelming the system. That leaves only 2 options, allow the discharge into waterways, or let the water back up from the treatment plants and spill out of our toilets into our homes. The first option seems like the best one to me.

The size of this problem has increased significantly due to much heavier and intense rainfall, which is probably due to climate change. Over the last decade, winters have been 25% wetter than the decade to 1990. That's a hell of a lot more water to deal with.

https://yaleclimateconnections.org/2024/06/how-is-climate-change-affecting-uk-ra

Other contributing factors have been greater urbanisation (water falling on a hard surface runs into the drains instead of being absorbed into the ground) and population growth (immigration) leading to more sewage.

The amount of infrastructure that water companies build to deal with this is agreed each year with the regulator. If the regulator had insisted on more then it would have been built, but it would have been difficult to build enough to cope with how the climate has changed, even if they'd known in advance it was going to happen. It's also one of those problems that are impossible to eliminate completely, no matter how much infrastructure is built.

So feel free to flog the company bosses but that won't actually solve the problem.


I ( and I suspect the vast majority of sensible people ) don’t want to flog the company bosses If only. We simply don’t want them to be awarded bonuses for the reasons previously stated.

Apart from the last sentence your contribution was very informative. As they say “ every day is a school day”. Thanks.

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Thames Water management rewarded for failure yet again. on 22:09 - Dec 10 with 445 viewsarfurdent

a bit like Russel Martin - getting paid lots to push shite out on an undeserving world

And the White Knight is talking backwards And the Red Queen's off with her head

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