| Iorwerth on 19:10 - Mar 22 with 1138 views | onehunglow |
| Iorwerth on 18:21 - Mar 22 by johnlangy |
I agree with most of that cat especially the part about Cardiff getting more than its fair share. It's blatantly obvious to me.
As regards Plaid, their strength at present is in the West and if they do get a majority in the next Senedd election their strength in the West will remain along with newly won seats in the current Labour heartland.
It stands to reason that if Plaid do get into power the emphasis will naturally shift West and North West (Iorwerth represents Anglesey). If that does happen they probably won't have a majority so will have to rely on support from Labour. But if they (Plaid) try to move the emphasis toward the West/N West and Labour try use their junior partner strength to hold that back it will hopefully be blindingly obvious who is doing the blocking and Labour will lose even more support. |
Gwynedd will always want to be separate
They hate everything really
They want to be left alone |  |
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| Iorwerth on 20:00 - Mar 22 with 1098 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Iorwerth on 18:21 - Mar 22 by johnlangy |
I agree with most of that cat especially the part about Cardiff getting more than its fair share. It's blatantly obvious to me.
As regards Plaid, their strength at present is in the West and if they do get a majority in the next Senedd election their strength in the West will remain along with newly won seats in the current Labour heartland.
It stands to reason that if Plaid do get into power the emphasis will naturally shift West and North West (Iorwerth represents Anglesey). If that does happen they probably won't have a majority so will have to rely on support from Labour. But if they (Plaid) try to move the emphasis toward the West/N West and Labour try use their junior partner strength to hold that back it will hopefully be blindingly obvious who is doing the blocking and Labour will lose even more support. |
That is exactly what Plaid need to be saying, Wales is stagnating outside of the South East corner and tell us all, loud and proud that Plaid will change that.
Plaid need to play to their strengths and Labour have plenty f weaknesses to target.
Out of interest, which bits do you disagree with? | | | |
| Iorwerth on 20:03 - Mar 22 with 1093 views | onehunglow |
| Iorwerth on 20:00 - Mar 22 by SullutaCreturned |
That is exactly what Plaid need to be saying, Wales is stagnating outside of the South East corner and tell us all, loud and proud that Plaid will change that.
Plaid need to play to their strengths and Labour have plenty f weaknesses to target.
Out of interest, which bits do you disagree with? |
Which is why independence wouldn't work as the North east would want to break away from English speaking Wales
Huge divisions that cannot be admitted | |
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| Iorwerth on 20:23 - Mar 22 with 1078 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Iorwerth on 20:03 - Mar 22 by onehunglow |
Which is why independence wouldn't work as the North east would want to break away from English speaking Wales
Huge divisions that cannot be admitted |
There'd never be a vote fpor Wales to split! What does North ales have that pays their way? Most of the wealth in Wales is in the South, they have tourism up there but as you tell us, it's not always welcome. They need Senedd money. | | | |
| Iorwerth on 15:20 - Mar 23 with 997 views | johnlangy |
| Iorwerth on 20:00 - Mar 22 by SullutaCreturned |
That is exactly what Plaid need to be saying, Wales is stagnating outside of the South East corner and tell us all, loud and proud that Plaid will change that.
Plaid need to play to their strengths and Labour have plenty f weaknesses to target.
Out of interest, which bits do you disagree with? |
Actually what I should have said cat is that I don't really know enough about parts of the second para to agree or disagree. Apart from the part about Cardiff getting all the investment of course  . | | | |
| Iorwerth on 11:17 - Mar 28 with 751 views | Scotia |
This is something I really don't understand with government, I know it happens a fair bit in Wales and maye other places.
"Three options are on the table: staying in the red-brick office building behind the Senedd, and refurbishing it; a new building; or a combination of a newbuild and an existing office."
Why are Welsh government lesing a building built purely for them and why are they leasing it and potentially paying to refurbish it? Why doesn't the landlord refurbish it? The owners must be laughing all the way to the bank! | | | |
| Iorwerth on 11:40 - Mar 28 with 737 views | Boundy |
| Iorwerth on 11:17 - Mar 28 by Scotia |
This is something I really don't understand with government, I know it happens a fair bit in Wales and maye other places.
"Three options are on the table: staying in the red-brick office building behind the Senedd, and refurbishing it; a new building; or a combination of a newbuild and an existing office."
Why are Welsh government lesing a building built purely for them and why are they leasing it and potentially paying to refurbish it? Why doesn't the landlord refurbish it? The owners must be laughing all the way to the bank! |
"Why are Welsh government lesing a building built purely for them and why are they leasing it and potentially paying to refurbish it? Why doesn't the landlord refurbish it? The owners must be laughing all the way to the bank!"
Because it was all part of the great rip off of taxpayers money which was spent on creating corruption bay .
Jac O North did a great blog on how it all came about . | |
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| Iorwerth on 11:43 - Mar 28 with 729 views | onehunglow |
| Iorwerth on 20:23 - Mar 22 by SullutaCreturned |
There'd never be a vote fpor Wales to split! What does North ales have that pays their way? Most of the wealth in Wales is in the South, they have tourism up there but as you tell us, it's not always welcome. They need Senedd money. |
Cat
It's about culture
They feel differently tentthry feel isolated from the rest of Eslrs
Cardiff light years away from Caernarfon
It's why they look towards Zliverpool for specialist medical issues , for a start | |
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| Iorwerth on 13:23 - Mar 28 with 702 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Iorwerth on 11:43 - Mar 28 by onehunglow |
Cat
It's about culture
They feel differently tentthry feel isolated from the rest of Eslrs
Cardiff light years away from Caernarfon
It's why they look towards Zliverpool for specialist medical issues , for a start |
Every nation has different parts, the people in Liverpool boo the English national anthem, the Geordies dont like the Cockney boys, so say nothing of the Lancashire vs Yorkshire feelings - and even between Manchester and Liverpool.
Wales is no different and certainly no worse.
Since OHL left Gods Country things have changed.
The establishment of Welsh Government, the internet has joined us up, welsh language education provision has grown hugely, and regular sporting success reinforces our confidence and self worth as a nation.
There is also the success of Ireland, the aspirations of Scotland and the failure of Englands Brexit.
Wales is impacted by all these things happening around us.
We are welsh Europeans and we are no longer need a Westminster that has sat back and watched Wales struggle for over 50 years.
The number of people like Boundy who champion a Wales-shire model are thankfully in rapid decline. |  |
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| Iorwerth on 14:00 - Mar 28 with 683 views | Scotia |
| Iorwerth on 11:40 - Mar 28 by Boundy |
"Why are Welsh government lesing a building built purely for them and why are they leasing it and potentially paying to refurbish it? Why doesn't the landlord refurbish it? The owners must be laughing all the way to the bank!"
Because it was all part of the great rip off of taxpayers money which was spent on creating corruption bay .
Jac O North did a great blog on how it all came about . |
It's not just the WG that do it though. I know the DVLA for example pays rent and has to maintain / refurbish most of it's buildings.
Seems nuts to me. | | | |
| Iorwerth on 14:45 - Mar 28 with 668 views | onehunglow |
| Iorwerth on 13:23 - Mar 28 by Kilkennyjack |
Every nation has different parts, the people in Liverpool boo the English national anthem, the Geordies dont like the Cockney boys, so say nothing of the Lancashire vs Yorkshire feelings - and even between Manchester and Liverpool.
Wales is no different and certainly no worse.
Since OHL left Gods Country things have changed.
The establishment of Welsh Government, the internet has joined us up, welsh language education provision has grown hugely, and regular sporting success reinforces our confidence and self worth as a nation.
There is also the success of Ireland, the aspirations of Scotland and the failure of Englands Brexit.
Wales is impacted by all these things happening around us.
We are welsh Europeans and we are no longer need a Westminster that has sat back and watched Wales struggle for over 50 years.
The number of people like Boundy who champion a Wales-shire model are thankfully in rapid decline. |
Good reply
You forget many Liverpool people are strongly loyal
The city was a leading city in the British Empire
With Irish Welsh roots, there will always be a difference to say Essex , where IMO the most backward live
You forget OHL still has many family members in Swansea
Main difference is chance seeking immigrants | |
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| Iorwerth on 15:15 - Mar 28 with 651 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Iorwerth on 14:00 - Mar 28 by Scotia |
It's not just the WG that do it though. I know the DVLA for example pays rent and has to maintain / refurbish most of it's buildings.
Seems nuts to me. |
Who do they pay rent to then ?
I was not aware of that. | |
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| Iorwerth on 15:39 - Mar 28 with 637 views | Scotia |
| Iorwerth on 15:15 - Mar 28 by Kilkennyjack |
Who do they pay rent to then ?
I was not aware of that. |
These buildings are bought and sold every few years, at one time it was a company called Maya capital. It could be anyone now.
They're usually let on a contract where the tennant has to pay for all refurbishments and maintenance.
To someone it may make financial sense. To me it seems bonkers. | | | |
| Iorwerth on 17:06 - Mar 28 with 612 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Iorwerth on 11:43 - Mar 28 by onehunglow |
Cat
It's about culture
They feel differently tentthry feel isolated from the rest of Eslrs
Cardiff light years away from Caernarfon
It's why they look towards Zliverpool for specialist medical issues , for a start |
So the same North Walians you say don't welcome English tourists are looking more to England than to the rest of Wales?
Makes no sense to me, you are arguing against your own opinion there. | | | |
| Iorwerth on 18:43 - Mar 28 with 578 views | onehunglow |
| Iorwerth on 17:06 - Mar 28 by SullutaCreturned |
So the same North Walians you say don't welcome English tourists are looking more to England than to the rest of Wales?
Makes no sense to me, you are arguing against your own opinion there. |
You've got it
The vast majority of tourists , especially day trippers and outdoor pursuit come from northwest England
Why? It's easy access
Off M56 and straight onto Expressway , looking out for Gog speed trays of course
They don't have to " welcome" them Yrust me , We go to Bala lake frequently
Businesses accept the money
That's all
Few south WLians get up to Gwynedd as the beaches of Gower and Pembs make it not worth it
They are stunning
The mountains walkers are rather different though although most will get to Llanberis, park up, load Up, kit up ,then get to the summit , joining the queue to get to the very top
Abersoch is an English enclave which no self respecting Coffi, would be found dead in
Its gruesomely expensive pretentious and basically ruined by tourism but it provides some jobs
Always glad to help
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| Iorwerth on 23:25 - Mar 28 with 531 views | Boundy |
| Iorwerth on 13:23 - Mar 28 by Kilkennyjack |
Every nation has different parts, the people in Liverpool boo the English national anthem, the Geordies dont like the Cockney boys, so say nothing of the Lancashire vs Yorkshire feelings - and even between Manchester and Liverpool.
Wales is no different and certainly no worse.
Since OHL left Gods Country things have changed.
The establishment of Welsh Government, the internet has joined us up, welsh language education provision has grown hugely, and regular sporting success reinforces our confidence and self worth as a nation.
There is also the success of Ireland, the aspirations of Scotland and the failure of Englands Brexit.
Wales is impacted by all these things happening around us.
We are welsh Europeans and we are no longer need a Westminster that has sat back and watched Wales struggle for over 50 years.
The number of people like Boundy who champion a Wales-shire model are thankfully in rapid decline. |
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