| Loan players. 22:18 - May 16 with 2705 views | Snipper |
if we want to try and challenge for a play-off place next season, do we need to use the loan market? If so, how many? |  | | |  |
| Loan players. on 22:24 - May 16 with 2693 views | Lblock |
I'd say six maybe seven.
Not sure they'd all go to Swindon, we may need to find a few other clubs to take 'em.
Hopefully we can get a back 4 in then. |  |
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| Loan players. on 22:32 - May 16 with 2663 views | eghamranger |
Be nice to get a decent striker in, like Bristol city did with Abraham, but they are few and far between and would they want to come.
IH says he wants 3 or 4, but there must be at least 6 going at the end of the month. |  | | |
| Loan players. on 22:32 - May 16 with 2662 views | daveB |
the good loan players cost a load of money and if they do well you have to spend even more to replace them.
We've had some good ones like Walker, Adel, Routledge and Morrison (1st time) over the years but plenty of awful ones who cost the club a fortune and stopped our own players getting a chance.
Signing loads of loan players was one of the main complaints people seemed to have against Redknapp so not sure going back to that is the answer |  | | |
| Loan players. on 23:29 - May 16 with 2599 views | ozexile |
We need a centre back, striker and Mooy from man city and we'll be minimum play off bound. |  | | |
| Loan players. on 06:43 - May 17 with 2497 views | ozranger |
| Loan players. on 23:29 - May 16 by ozexile |
We need a centre back, striker and Mooy from man city and we'll be minimum play off bound. |
I reckon if Mooy and Luongo melded, we'd get Ale back. |  | | |
| Loan players. on 07:44 - May 17 with 2430 views | Northernr |
Short answer, yeh a couple, and obviously you'd be hoping for the quality of Mooy or Abraham.
Flippant answer, remember just before Warnock arrived and we were all saying (as was he) that the problem was we had too many loan players? |  | | |
| Loan players. on 08:09 - May 17 with 2394 views | paulparker |
Been banging on for 2 years now but if we could get Lewis Baker here on a seasons loan then we could be very decent next year
like the look of young Sancho at City but I don't think they would loan him to us
ojo at Liverpool who when he was at MK dons was considered to be better than Ali again could be another , all 3 of these players can play behind the striker |  |
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| Loan players. on 10:10 - May 17 with 2327 views | richranger |
| Loan players. on 07:44 - May 17 by Northernr |
Short answer, yeh a couple, and obviously you'd be hoping for the quality of Mooy or Abraham.
Flippant answer, remember just before Warnock arrived and we were all saying (as was he) that the problem was we had too many loan players? |
Ah - but then Warnock brought in Kyle Walker and Routledge. But with a specific purpose - Walker for the injured Orr, and Routledge for Mackie.
So yes, 1 or 2 quality loans would be good, but only 1 or 2 covering positions we are short in. | | | |
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| Loan players. on 10:21 - May 17 with 2304 views | Northernr |
| Loan players. on 10:10 - May 17 by richranger |
Ah - but then Warnock brought in Kyle Walker and Routledge. But with a specific purpose - Walker for the injured Orr, and Routledge for Mackie.
So yes, 1 or 2 quality loans would be good, but only 1 or 2 covering positions we are short in. |
Yeh agreed.
Though as Dave B says it's a common misconception that loans are free. Bristol City will have paid plenty to borrow Abraham for a year, and it's basically dead money because they've no chance of ever signing him permanently. So you have to ask, do we want to hand what little money we have over to a rich Premier League team in return for developing their player for a few months, obstructing the path of our own juniors to the first team in the process? | | | |
| Loan players. on 10:24 - May 17 with 2300 views | eghamranger |
Everyone hopes that you get a decent loan player, that won't get into a premier league team and then he stays on when your promoted.
But it doesn't and won't happen. | | | |
| Loan players. on 10:28 - May 17 with 2291 views | WadR |
Due to rule changes and the way big clubs hoard players, the nature of loaning has definitely changed in the last 5 or so years. I actually think there's a bit more value in the market than when Warnock made those comments. Just the sheer quantity of players hoarded by the top clubs, means there's players available on loan for relatively cheap (compared to the way transfer fees have inflated in the last few years) of a really high quality.
Important thing is using connections like Ramsey and Ferdinand at Spurs to find who the next big star should be. Finding an equivalent to Abraham and Mooy this season, Pritchard when he was at Brentford and Bamford when he was Boro initially rather than pining over the already established stars who probably aren't realistic.
Agree with PP, Lewis Baker would be brilliant - two footed, excellent set pieices, creative midfielder. There's tons of Chelsea players that we ought to be looking at, Ike Ugbo is the year younger equivalent of Abraham - scored a lot of goals in the FA youth cup winning side. Trevoh Chalobah, Nathan's younger brother, captained that side and looks a quality centreback (although only turns 18 this summer). | | | |
| Loan players. on 13:19 - May 17 with 2195 views | WeaverQPR |
I'd take Delaney back from Palce and play in as a CB. Easily good enough for a year |  |
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| Loan players. on 13:38 - May 17 with 2165 views | daveB |
| Loan players. on 10:28 - May 17 by WadR |
Due to rule changes and the way big clubs hoard players, the nature of loaning has definitely changed in the last 5 or so years. I actually think there's a bit more value in the market than when Warnock made those comments. Just the sheer quantity of players hoarded by the top clubs, means there's players available on loan for relatively cheap (compared to the way transfer fees have inflated in the last few years) of a really high quality.
Important thing is using connections like Ramsey and Ferdinand at Spurs to find who the next big star should be. Finding an equivalent to Abraham and Mooy this season, Pritchard when he was at Brentford and Bamford when he was Boro initially rather than pining over the already established stars who probably aren't realistic.
Agree with PP, Lewis Baker would be brilliant - two footed, excellent set pieices, creative midfielder. There's tons of Chelsea players that we ought to be looking at, Ike Ugbo is the year younger equivalent of Abraham - scored a lot of goals in the FA youth cup winning side. Trevoh Chalobah, Nathan's younger brother, captained that side and looks a quality centreback (although only turns 18 this summer). |
I'm sure we are looking at them but they don't come for free, you have to pay a loan fee for them and wages so it's effectively buying a player for a year and not being able to sell him. | | | |
| Loan players. on 15:40 - May 17 with 2102 views | simmo |
| Loan players. on 10:21 - May 17 by Northernr |
Yeh agreed.
Though as Dave B says it's a common misconception that loans are free. Bristol City will have paid plenty to borrow Abraham for a year, and it's basically dead money because they've no chance of ever signing him permanently. So you have to ask, do we want to hand what little money we have over to a rich Premier League team in return for developing their player for a few months, obstructing the path of our own juniors to the first team in the process? |
It's a measured decision though, Huddersfield probably wouldn't be in the play-offs without their loans, similarly Bristol may well have been relegated if they didn't pay the fee to have Abraham. If we think the best we can do is mid-table anyway, then there's no point blocking a youth player to develop someone else.
Then again we don't have any young players knocking on the door at CB or up front and they are positions we are light on, the latter especially is a very pricey position to fill, it might make sense to take the comparitavely cheaper option of a temporary loan and put investment into other areas to keep in Lee Hoos's frugal masterplan. |  |
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| Loan players. on 15:58 - May 17 with 2073 views | paulparker |
| Loan players. on 10:21 - May 17 by Northernr |
Yeh agreed.
Though as Dave B says it's a common misconception that loans are free. Bristol City will have paid plenty to borrow Abraham for a year, and it's basically dead money because they've no chance of ever signing him permanently. So you have to ask, do we want to hand what little money we have over to a rich Premier League team in return for developing their player for a few months, obstructing the path of our own juniors to the first team in the process? |
Looks like we are still looking at the Academy and following the Bilbao model rather than the quick fix loan system
http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11096/10880323/athletic-bilbaos-methods-p | |
| And Bowles is onside, Swinburne has come rushing out of his goal , what can Bowles do here , onto the left foot no, on to the right foot
That’s there that’s two, and that’s Bowles
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| Loan players. on 17:26 - May 17 with 1985 views | Snipper |
Very interesting story and they should be applauded for it.
But where are we going to find Basque players around Shepherds Bush? :-). | | | |
| Loan players. on 17:39 - May 17 with 1962 views | ted_hendrix |
I was under the impression that when QPR loaned players to other clubs, we paid the players wages and carried on giving the player luncheon vouchers and free cinema tickets and we also paid the club a fee to take the useless bastard off our hands for a season. |  |
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| Loan players. on 17:46 - May 17 with 1949 views | Northernr |
| Loan players. on 17:39 - May 17 by ted_hendrix |
I was under the impression that when QPR loaned players to other clubs, we paid the players wages and carried on giving the player luncheon vouchers and free cinema tickets and we also paid the club a fee to take the useless bastard off our hands for a season. |
That's the difference between having players other people want, and having players you're desperate to get rid of and they know it. | | | |
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