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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 01:18 - Sep 29 with 190542 viewsDr_Parnassus



Who will be watching? First one kicks off in 24 hours time.

The Democrats have pulled Joe back from his campaign trail recently to get him prepared, so hopefully it will be a decent exchange.

Unfortunately they don’t seem to have great confidence as they have spent the last month looking for any dirt they can dig up so Joe can use if he gets stuck.

It’s no coincidence that this vote influencing Facebook algorithm story is being shamelessly and inaccurately made into a race issue on the eve of the debates. So transparent and disingenuous, it’s a shame politics has come to this on this level where black people are being used in this way to score political points. I would be furious if I was them, but it does seem a lot of people are not falling for this one and calling it out for what it is.

People finally seem to be getting wise to this political race baiting which is refreshing to see.

It’s also telling that in the week of the debate they try and paint Trump as a tax evasion offender. I think that’s what they wanted the tax returns to show, they seem to have got annoyed when it turns out his tax returns were fine in accordance to what his companies profits were - but decided to run with it anyway. Any news is good news in their mind as it’s another thing Joe can use when in a tricky spot.

But I hope the discussions remain political and doesn’t turn into some form of gossip peddling reality TV episode.

Although I think there should be some kind of drinking game involved if it does turn that way, how many times Biden completely loses his thread of thought and blurts out “I mean, think about it...” you have to take a shot.

I will be watching with great interest anyway.

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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 14:56 - Dec 20 with 1077 viewsA_Fans_Dad

🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 12:13 - Dec 20 by Gwyn737

Plus there’s no way of proving that wrongdoing in this election is any more prevalent than in former elections.


Here is a nice roundup of of how unlikely it is that Biden could have won.

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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 15:03 - Dec 20 with 1062 viewsHighjack

🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 14:56 - Dec 20 by A_Fans_Dad

Here is a nice roundup of of how unlikely it is that Biden could have won.



It does look weird but aren’t a lot of US counties a bit like rotten boroughs? Some counties only have about 30 voters whilst others have millions.

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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 15:09 - Dec 20 with 1057 viewsA_Fans_Dad

🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 15:03 - Dec 20 by Highjack

It does look weird but aren’t a lot of US counties a bit like rotten boroughs? Some counties only have about 30 voters whilst others have millions.


Just compare Obama to Biden, let alone Trump to Biden.
Plus the same applies to Clinton in 2016.
Add that to all the other evidence and it is blatantly obvious.
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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 15:40 - Dec 20 with 1055 viewsGwyn737

🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 14:56 - Dec 20 by A_Fans_Dad

Here is a nice roundup of of how unlikely it is that Biden could have won.



They should definitely submit that meme as evidence. It’s the smoking gun.
[Post edited 20 Dec 2020 16:02]
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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 16:06 - Dec 20 with 1033 viewsA_Fans_Dad

🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 15:40 - Dec 20 by Gwyn737

They should definitely submit that meme as evidence. It’s the smoking gun.
[Post edited 20 Dec 2020 16:02]


Try working it out for youself.
Obama 79037 Votes per county
Trump 29365 Votes per county
Half as many per county as Obama, but 5,000,000 more votes

Biden 169811 Votes per county
Twice as many as Obama and 5 times as many as Trump per county
Do you actually think that Biden was twice as popular as Obama.

Of course it makes perfect sense.
Nothing to see, move along.
[Post edited 20 Dec 2020 16:08]
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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 16:09 - Dec 20 with 1026 viewsGwyn737

🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 15:03 - Dec 20 by Highjack

It does look weird but aren’t a lot of US counties a bit like rotten boroughs? Some counties only have about 30 voters whilst others have millions.


Spot on. The counties with massive cities can add multiple times the amount of votes as small counties.
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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 16:10 - Dec 20 with 1024 viewsGroo

In the 5 States that Trump says there is fraud, Biden got 11 million votes, so how many of the 69 million votes for Biden in the other States were fraudulant?


It must be easy in a World where you only read the things you believe in and every other source is a hoax.

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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 16:12 - Dec 20 with 1024 viewsDJack

🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 16:09 - Dec 20 by Gwyn737

Spot on. The counties with massive cities can add multiple times the amount of votes as small counties.


Multiple? Exponentially more like.

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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 16:17 - Dec 20 with 1012 viewsGwyn737

🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 16:12 - Dec 20 by DJack

Multiple? Exponentially more like.


Makes perfect sense.
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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 16:41 - Dec 20 with 994 viewsA_Fans_Dad

🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 16:10 - Dec 20 by Groo

In the 5 States that Trump says there is fraud, Biden got 11 million votes, so how many of the 69 million votes for Biden in the other States were fraudulant?


It must be easy in a World where you only read the things you believe in and every other source is a hoax.


Wherever they used Dominion machines there were probably fraudulant votes.
But no one but the Democrtas know for sure.
Because no one will allow the votes themselvs to be checked, as you well know.
[Post edited 20 Dec 2020 16:56]
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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 16:42 - Dec 20 with 992 viewsA_Fans_Dad

🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 16:12 - Dec 20 by DJack

Multiple? Exponentially more like.


Yes, they can, so are you actually saying that Obama didn't also win those same big city states?
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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 17:07 - Dec 20 with 975 viewsA_Fans_Dad

How about this little factoid for you.
The total Number of officially Registered voters in the USA is 213,799,467.
According to public data the turnout was 66.2%.
66.2% of 213,799,467 is 141,107,648.2 votes.
Trump won 74,000,000 votes.
141107648.2 - 74,000,000 = 67107648.22
Biden won 81,000,000 votes

Democrat Electoral arithmetic 81,000,000 = 67107648.22
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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 17:32 - Dec 20 with 962 viewsnantywatcher

🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 17:07 - Dec 20 by A_Fans_Dad

How about this little factoid for you.
The total Number of officially Registered voters in the USA is 213,799,467.
According to public data the turnout was 66.2%.
66.2% of 213,799,467 is 141,107,648.2 votes.
Trump won 74,000,000 votes.
141107648.2 - 74,000,000 = 67107648.22
Biden won 81,000,000 votes

Democrat Electoral arithmetic 81,000,000 = 67107648.22


Or alternatively Trump only won 60,000,000. votes??
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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 17:34 - Dec 20 with 960 viewsA_Fans_Dad

🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 17:32 - Dec 20 by nantywatcher

Or alternatively Trump only won 60,000,000. votes??


Why would they declare Trump won 74,000,000 votes if he had not?
They declared it not Trump.
You people will make any excuse won't you?
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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 17:35 - Dec 20 with 959 viewsA_Fans_Dad

Here is some more data for you to not beleive because of you outright bias.

https://hereistheevidence.com/election-2020/pa-update-records/
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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 17:52 - Dec 20 with 935 viewsFireboy2

🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 17:35 - Dec 20 by A_Fans_Dad

Here is some more data for you to not beleive because of you outright bias.

https://hereistheevidence.com/election-2020/pa-update-records/


You must devote your entire life to finding links that prove that trump won.

How sad.
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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 17:53 - Dec 20 with 933 viewsGwyn737

🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 17:07 - Dec 20 by A_Fans_Dad

How about this little factoid for you.
The total Number of officially Registered voters in the USA is 213,799,467.
According to public data the turnout was 66.2%.
66.2% of 213,799,467 is 141,107,648.2 votes.
Trump won 74,000,000 votes.
141107648.2 - 74,000,000 = 67107648.22
Biden won 81,000,000 votes

Democrat Electoral arithmetic 81,000,000 = 67107648.22


What date was that registration data taken from?

How many voters registered between that date and Election Day?

How many states allow ‘on the day registration’?

How many voters registered on the day?

How does the total number of votes (155m ish) compare with impartial predictions of voter turnout?
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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 18:25 - Dec 20 with 922 viewsHighjack

🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 16:06 - Dec 20 by A_Fans_Dad

Try working it out for youself.
Obama 79037 Votes per county
Trump 29365 Votes per county
Half as many per county as Obama, but 5,000,000 more votes

Biden 169811 Votes per county
Twice as many as Obama and 5 times as many as Trump per county
Do you actually think that Biden was twice as popular as Obama.

Of course it makes perfect sense.
Nothing to see, move along.
[Post edited 20 Dec 2020 16:08]


Biden wasn’t running against Obama. Nobody voted for Biden because he was popular, they voted for Biden because he’s not Trump. I think even the most hardened democrat would happily admit that Biden is an absolutely useless idiot of a man, but they just wanted rid of Trump.

The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which.
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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 18:29 - Dec 20 with 917 viewsA_Fans_Dad

🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 17:53 - Dec 20 by Gwyn737

What date was that registration data taken from?

How many voters registered between that date and Election Day?

How many states allow ‘on the day registration’?

How many voters registered on the day?

How does the total number of votes (155m ish) compare with impartial predictions of voter turnout?


They are the current known values.
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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 18:32 - Dec 20 with 916 viewsA_Fans_Dad

🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 17:52 - Dec 20 by Fireboy2

You must devote your entire life to finding links that prove that trump won.

How sad.


Hardly, I have been watching Tottenham & Man U games, reading about climate, reading the Mail and of course posting on here.
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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 18:35 - Dec 20 with 915 viewsA_Fans_Dad

🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 18:25 - Dec 20 by Highjack

Biden wasn’t running against Obama. Nobody voted for Biden because he was popular, they voted for Biden because he’s not Trump. I think even the most hardened democrat would happily admit that Biden is an absolutely useless idiot of a man, but they just wanted rid of Trump.


But wasn't Obama the "most popular" Democrat President for years and yet Biden could beat him so easily.
Plus the overall numbers don't appear to add up.
It all adds to the evidence already collected.
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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 18:37 - Dec 20 with 912 viewsGwyn737

🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 18:29 - Dec 20 by A_Fans_Dad

They are the current known values.


Could you be a little more specific?

I asked pretty obvious questions.
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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 18:37 - Dec 20 with 912 viewsFireboy2

🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 18:32 - Dec 20 by A_Fans_Dad

Hardly, I have been watching Tottenham & Man U games, reading about climate, reading the Mail and of course posting on here.


No, you have had it on the box but obviously not watching it.
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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 19:11 - Dec 20 with 897 viewsA_Fans_Dad

🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 18:37 - Dec 20 by Fireboy2

No, you have had it on the box but obviously not watching it.


No I can't get it on the box, I can only stream it. So yes I do watch it.
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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 19:15 - Dec 20 with 894 viewsA_Fans_Dad

🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 18:37 - Dec 20 by Gwyn737

Could you be a little more specific?

I asked pretty obvious questions.


No I can't and I am not going to bother wasting my time looking for it.
The Democrats have responded to the data and are now saying the turnout was 73%, so you see how this works?
Just lie to cover it up.
That would be the highest turnout since 1900.
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