| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr 22:18 - Dec 17 with 3298 views | Boundy |
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| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 18:07 - Dec 19 with 595 views | onehunglow |
Again, any criticism over welsh language legislation leads to personal crap.
Wind yer necks in
It’s just a means of communication and not an invite to war "
As long as humans can communicate with each other ,that should be enough | |
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| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 18:10 - Dec 19 with 590 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 11:44 - Dec 19 by lifelong |
So if the language is irrelevant what’s the problem with people speaking Welsh?
My wife is from a large family from West Wales, every one of them speak Welsh as their first language, are they to stop doing so because of the views of the likes of you?
Isn’t it amazing that the Welsh language is still alive and kicking despite English teachers beating Welsh speaking children years ago in an attempt to stop them speaking it? |
This pretty much sums it up.
Use as much welsh as you can every day pawb.
It upsets all the right people.
O bydded i'r heniaith barhau. 🏴 |  |
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| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 18:14 - Dec 19 with 564 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 18:07 - Dec 19 by onehunglow |
Again, any criticism over welsh language legislation leads to personal crap.
Wind yer necks in
It’s just a means of communication and not an invite to war "
As long as humans can communicate with each other ,that should be enough |
Its a miracle that its survived given the global march of English.
Not to mention the near open hostility.
Every single welsh child should leave school with conversational Cymraeg skills.
Every welsh citizen should be able to deal with government through Cymraeg. | |
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| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 18:16 - Dec 19 with 548 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 15:13 - Dec 18 by Luther27 |
Neither do I but I do have issues with for instance M4 signs in Welsh only. And I stand by the money going to be wasted in changing minor things like County signs, official headed paperwork etc. And an extra cost will be incurred. Don’t forget the 20 mph signage cost an initial £35 million. Aren’t there more important things to spend tax payers money on? |
Like the billions wasted on illegal wars, the Liz Truss budget and failed Brexit.
Spending on the welsh language in non-league level spending trivia. | |
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| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 18:18 - Dec 19 with 542 views | onehunglow |
| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 18:14 - Dec 19 by Kilkennyjack |
Its a miracle that its survived given the global march of English.
Not to mention the near open hostility.
Every single welsh child should leave school with conversational Cymraeg skills.
Every welsh citizen should be able to deal with government through Cymraeg. |
If yiu speak it,that’s great .
All. Y nephews and nieces have had it compulsory and everyone hated it .
Sorry to offend but that’s how many young people see it
I had it as BG for a year I think and dropped it for Spanish which was of more use .
We don’t agree but I respect your standpoint .
You keep it up personal unlike Lifelong who jumps in with his personal attacks on me like a Pavlov dog
Well done . Da iawn and nad llaw | |
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| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 18:18 - Dec 19 with 541 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 16:59 - Dec 18 by pencoedjack |
I'd like to think this will change in the next elections. |
Agreed - it needs to increase significantly.
We could get rid of the Royals and the House of Lords to pay for it. | |
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| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 18:19 - Dec 19 with 541 views | Luther27 |
| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 18:16 - Dec 19 by Kilkennyjack |
Like the billions wasted on illegal wars, the Liz Truss budget and failed Brexit.
Spending on the welsh language in non-league level spending trivia. |
It’s not about war…it’s not about Brexit so don’t try and deflect. It’s about alienating the majority of non Welsh speakers in their own country. | | | |
| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 18:30 - Dec 19 with 515 views | raynor94 |
| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 18:16 - Dec 19 by Kilkennyjack |
Like the billions wasted on illegal wars, the Liz Truss budget and failed Brexit.
Spending on the welsh language in non-league level spending trivia. |
Are you fluent in Welsh, do you live in Swansea? |  |
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| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 19:14 - Dec 19 with 470 views | majorraglan |
| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 09:25 - Dec 19 by onehunglow |
I don’t accept that for a minute
I am from west Wales Cardy stock.
My grandad ,welsh speaker ,certainly knew how to conduct business affairs in English .
How exactly has the welsh language act improved Wales as a country and especially for the majority who do not and do not want to speak it
It’s because of views like yours that sees division as we do over a bluddy language
Wales has some of the poorest areas in the UK and the language used in those areas is irrelevant |
It makes no difference to me whether you accept it or not, you are speaking as someone who lives in England and will have limited if any interactions with the people I’m talking about. I live and work in West Wales and come across these individuals on a weekly basis, so I can actually comment as someone with first hand experience of the issue.
The Act has put Welsh and English on an equal footing which is to be welcomed, those who are bilingual have the best of both worlds and those who don’t feel comfortable and prefer using Welsh can use that language.
It’s because of views like yours on both sides of the debate that we have division, most can see the advantages of having 2 languages. | | | |
| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 20:06 - Dec 19 with 444 views | Whiterockin |
| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 18:04 - Dec 19 by Kilkennyjack |
Do you make the rules on languages ?
Sorry i wasn’t aware .. |
Clearly the irony went straight over your head. |  | | |
| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 20:34 - Dec 19 with 412 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 18:19 - Dec 19 by Luther27 |
It’s not about war…it’s not about Brexit so don’t try and deflect. It’s about alienating the majority of non Welsh speakers in their own country. |
So is it the cost or the "alienation".? The alienated one are the older people who missed the boat. Times have changed.
It is about empathy with your surroundings. Swansea urban people do not have the empathy it seems. The are clear anti Welsh narratives. Anything money spent in Wales is a waste. Londoners do not think like this. For them any money spent anywhere else is a waste.
I do not want Wales to be like England and I do not a want the airport and the Senedd to be shutdown. |  |
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| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 20:48 - Dec 19 with 381 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 20:34 - Dec 19 by ReslovenSwan1 |
So is it the cost or the "alienation".? The alienated one are the older people who missed the boat. Times have changed.
It is about empathy with your surroundings. Swansea urban people do not have the empathy it seems. The are clear anti Welsh narratives. Anything money spent in Wales is a waste. Londoners do not think like this. For them any money spent anywhere else is a waste.
I do not want Wales to be like England and I do not a want the airport and the Senedd to be shutdown. |
Money spent on things Wales really needs isn't wasted. Money thrown down the drain is wasted.
If people want to speak Welsh then great, it's their choice but they should be able to request contact be made in Welsh and save money on the bilingulaism that is pointless.
My wife answers the phone in work (NHS) and has to give the relevant greeting in Welsh and English but she cannot say any more than hello, good morning, good afternoon and goodbye so the rest of the convo is in English, again give people the option and provide the needed resources but don't spend more money than us necessary.
It's not about being anti Welsh, it's about spending our money better, where it's really needed. We have peiple desperate fro hospital treatment, desperate for decent homes or any home at all and desperate for jobs and the Senedd wastes money.
Westminster is no better and for all I know the Scottish and irish governments too. Politiccians are useless and they argue about pointless things. | | | |
| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 21:34 - Dec 19 with 358 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 18:18 - Dec 19 by onehunglow |
If yiu speak it,that’s great .
All. Y nephews and nieces have had it compulsory and everyone hated it .
Sorry to offend but that’s how many young people see it
I had it as BG for a year I think and dropped it for Spanish which was of more use .
We don’t agree but I respect your standpoint .
You keep it up personal unlike Lifelong who jumps in with his personal attacks on me like a Pavlov dog
Well done . Da iawn and nad llaw |
Diolch brawd | |
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| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 21:36 - Dec 19 with 345 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 18:19 - Dec 19 by Luther27 |
It’s not about war…it’s not about Brexit so don’t try and deflect. It’s about alienating the majority of non Welsh speakers in their own country. |
People made it about money spent.
I ended that debate. | |
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| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 21:38 - Dec 19 with 325 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 18:30 - Dec 19 by raynor94 |
Are you fluent in Welsh, do you live in Swansea? |
What does it matter, i would feel the same about the Irish language.
Most Europeans have 2 languages.
Welsh speakers are just normal. | |
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| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 21:40 - Dec 19 with 309 views | Whiterockin |
| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 21:38 - Dec 19 by Kilkennyjack |
What does it matter, i would feel the same about the Irish language.
Most Europeans have 2 languages.
Welsh speakers are just normal. |
I would say the majority of Welsh who speak another language, it isn't Welsh. | | | |
| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 21:41 - Dec 19 with 297 views | lifelong |
| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 18:18 - Dec 19 by onehunglow |
If yiu speak it,that’s great .
All. Y nephews and nieces have had it compulsory and everyone hated it .
Sorry to offend but that’s how many young people see it
I had it as BG for a year I think and dropped it for Spanish which was of more use .
We don’t agree but I respect your standpoint .
You keep it up personal unlike Lifelong who jumps in with his personal attacks on me like a Pavlov dog
Well done . Da iawn and nad llaw |
Says he making a personal attack.😀
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| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 21:41 - Dec 19 with 297 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 20:34 - Dec 19 by ReslovenSwan1 |
So is it the cost or the "alienation".? The alienated one are the older people who missed the boat. Times have changed.
It is about empathy with your surroundings. Swansea urban people do not have the empathy it seems. The are clear anti Welsh narratives. Anything money spent in Wales is a waste. Londoners do not think like this. For them any money spent anywhere else is a waste.
I do not want Wales to be like England and I do not a want the airport and the Senedd to be shutdown. |
Well said that man.
Vive la difference. | |
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| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 21:44 - Dec 19 with 291 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 21:40 - Dec 19 by Whiterockin |
I would say the majority of Welsh who speak another language, it isn't Welsh. |
You might be right, what are you basing that on ? | |
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| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 21:46 - Dec 19 with 282 views | raynor94 |
| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 21:38 - Dec 19 by Kilkennyjack |
What does it matter, i would feel the same about the Irish language.
Most Europeans have 2 languages.
Welsh speakers are just normal. |
Why I asked, is Swansea is a English speaking City and always has been, are you fluent in Welsh? In all my time through work and socially I've never heard anybody converse in Welsh | |
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| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 21:49 - Dec 19 with 277 views | Whiterockin |
| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 21:44 - Dec 19 by Kilkennyjack |
You might be right, what are you basing that on ? |
People who now consider themselves Welsh/born here with heritage non British. Italian/Polish/Asian ect ect. Wales in now multi cultural. [Post edited 19 Dec 21:50]
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| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 21:56 - Dec 19 with 244 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 20:48 - Dec 19 by SullutaCreturned |
Money spent on things Wales really needs isn't wasted. Money thrown down the drain is wasted.
If people want to speak Welsh then great, it's their choice but they should be able to request contact be made in Welsh and save money on the bilingulaism that is pointless.
My wife answers the phone in work (NHS) and has to give the relevant greeting in Welsh and English but she cannot say any more than hello, good morning, good afternoon and goodbye so the rest of the convo is in English, again give people the option and provide the needed resources but don't spend more money than us necessary.
It's not about being anti Welsh, it's about spending our money better, where it's really needed. We have peiple desperate fro hospital treatment, desperate for decent homes or any home at all and desperate for jobs and the Senedd wastes money.
Westminster is no better and for all I know the Scottish and irish governments too. Politiccians are useless and they argue about pointless things. |
Westminster wastes billions more than any other public institution.
They spend ten times more annually on the English Arts Council than is spent on the welsh language.
Lets hear you batter the English Arts council for hospitals not having funding then ?
You seem very quiet on that one.
I wonder why …..? | |
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| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 22:05 - Dec 19 with 218 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 21:46 - Dec 19 by raynor94 |
Why I asked, is Swansea is a English speaking City and always has been, are you fluent in Welsh? In all my time through work and socially I've never heard anybody converse in Welsh |
You must work inside an old red telephone box then.
I hear the language daily where i work.
Then again I dont work inside a telephone box.
You must be fecking amazed that people like Joe Allen, Ben Davies, Ben C, John Hartson, Dai Davies, and even Rubin Colwill all speak/spoke welsh.
Add in Aaron Ramsey for good measure.
Maybe you should change jobs ? | |
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| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 22:06 - Dec 19 with 212 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 21:49 - Dec 19 by Whiterockin |
People who now consider themselves Welsh/born here with heritage non British. Italian/Polish/Asian ect ect. Wales in now multi cultural. [Post edited 19 Dec 21:50]
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I am all for more languages | |
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| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 22:09 - Dec 19 with 187 views | Whiterockin |
| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 22:06 - Dec 19 by Kilkennyjack |
I am all for more languages |
Just proves that Welsh is not necessarily the second spoken language in Wales. | | | |
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