| Millwall fans 21:34 - Aug 7 with 93441 views | Hayesender |
What a bunch of absolute cnts. Attacked my 11 year old stepson by nandos after the game, and my 16 year old stepson has ended up being arrested for kicking one of the cnts in the head to get him off his brother.
I was then arrested for defending myself against two of the cnts, and then de-arrested when it became clear I was only defending myself.
Sat at home now with grazed nuckles and want feels like a cracked rib.
Why, just why do we let these arseholes out at the same time to cause fcking havoc?
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| Millwall fans on 14:05 - Aug 8 with 5363 views | HamptonR |
| Millwall fans on 13:47 - Aug 8 by Stanisgod |
Are you a closet Walllllll fan, you seem to be defending them a lot. |
He has also mentioned their good behaviour inside the ground, twice.
Because only one of their fans managed to get to the QPR fans and start a fight.
Well done them |  | | |
| Millwall fans on 14:11 - Aug 8 with 5322 views | GloryHunter |
| Millwall fans on 13:38 - Aug 8 by Stanisgod |
what makes you laugh is when we go there we are cooped in that cage for half an hour being pelted with all sorts while old bill just stand looking, and stopped from going to the station. |
To be fair, last time we went to the Den in September 2019 (Nakhi's 2-1 win) we weren't caged in at the end, and were allowed out the gate to go home to Lewisham. Weren't ambushed outside either. It had given me hope that Millwall were starting to become a normal club. |  | | |
| Millwall fans on 14:13 - Aug 8 with 5305 views | Fenwick_115 |
| Millwall fans on 13:47 - Aug 8 by Stanisgod |
Are you a closet Walllllll fan, you seem to be defending them a lot. |
Dickhead. [Post edited 8 Aug 2021 14:18]
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| Millwall fans on 14:14 - Aug 8 with 5296 views | BazzaInTheLoft |
| Millwall fans on 13:28 - Aug 8 by CiderwithRsie |
I am presuming you mean that it doesn't matter to those families on the Green as to which club the supporters came from. Fair enough.
But I think it matters quite a lot if out of just 11 arrests one of them is Hayesender's lad, defending his kid brother from a bunch of thugs, and none of them are the actual thugs. |
That wasn’t what I meant, but yeah that is also true. The non football community don’t care what colours you wear when you smash up their picnics.
The majority of the 2,500 Millwall fans went about the day fine yesterday. Any club specific punitive action would discriminate against the behaving majority.
I’d hate to have missed only the 2nd Premiership stint in my lifetime if QPR were banned for one wrongun stabbing a Everton fan with a fishknife.
Incidents like those that arose yesterday, even if Millwall fans are proportionately more likely to commit them, need to be handled holistically and nationally. [Post edited 8 Aug 2021 14:15]
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| Millwall fans on 14:15 - Aug 8 with 5279 views | Fenwick_115 |
| Millwall fans on 14:05 - Aug 8 by HamptonR |
He has also mentioned their good behaviour inside the ground, twice.
Because only one of their fans managed to get to the QPR fans and start a fight.
Well done them |
Because there was posters saying we should ban them in total or restrict our revenue by reducing their allocation.
They WERE incredibly well behaved in the ground yesterday and you don't need to be a Millwall fan to acknowledge that. | | | |
| Millwall fans on 14:59 - Aug 8 with 5074 views | Boston |
| Millwall fans on 09:35 - Aug 8 by Blue_Castello |
Unfortunately the chances of banning them completely are minimal to say the least so what we have to do is only ever give them the least amount of tickets available,which in the case of Loftus Road / Kiyan Prince its the top tier only.
The decision to give them the extra 650 tickets was made by people who don't have to suffer their intimidation and violence, it probably would not have stopped yesterdays violence but it would have reduced the potential. The club probably earned an extra 20k for the privilege of increasing the potential danger to its own fans, for pitys sake can we not learn from these mistakes, any chance somebody can forward a link to this thread to Lee Hoos, maybe he can walk with the Rangers fans to the Uxbridge Road next time they visit.
Really sorry to hear about yesterday Hayes, it should have been a celebration of fans returning and your day was ruined by a bunch of morons. |
In 2010 when they decided Rangers needed 'attention'...many / most of the roaming bands didn't have a match ticket. | |
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| Millwall fans on 15:00 - Aug 8 with 5071 views | stowmarketrange |
| Millwall fans on 12:37 - Aug 8 by charmr |
It’s been going on for years letting fans with reputations out at the same time down at Rangers. How many away grounds have we all been too and kept back.
I wrote to the club and even spoke to Mark Devlin personally once. The answer was always ‘it’s a police decision’ well Rangers make a club decision about ticket allocation then. Like a lot of things in life once the decision makers experience it for themselves seems the only time something changes.
Also the hard fact reality is when Millwall fans bleat on about how many away fans attend the new den. Who wants to face and deal with the London Bridge experience when going to watch a game of football especially for teams with fans from nearer locations.
On a side note their is part of me that thinks the Police/Politicians use football as a crowd training exercise and a show of strength/control.
Ps Joe Gallen when assistant at Millwall said their crowd were a horrible lot. [Post edited 8 Aug 2021 12:40]
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When they had the trouble with the Everton cup game a couple of years ago,that dickhead Steve Claridge spoke on 5live and blamed the everton fans for the trouble because they didn’t play by the rules and get off the tube at the right station.But why should anyone going to a game of football there have to be restricted in where they go, or get off the tube at the right station,when their fans make up their own rules whenever they travel anywhere? |  | | |
| Millwall fans on 15:07 - Aug 8 with 5036 views | Boston |
| Millwall fans on 12:32 - Aug 8 by Esox_Lucius |
We already know that some of those nicked were QPR fans. The key issue is whose fans will be charged and prosecuted. |
Depends if they were the aggressors I'd have thought. Looks like there's going to be video evidence anyway. | |
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| Millwall fans on 15:39 - Aug 8 with 4914 views | Hayesender |
Police have just called the boys mum. No further action, have admitted he shouldn't have been arrested, and have apologised.
Not good enough imo, and the officer who has literally batterd a 16 year old lad for no reason needs bringing to book.
Police also confirmed it is the clubs decision to let their fans out at the same time as the home fans, against the advice of the police which I find astonishing [Post edited 8 Aug 2021 15:53]
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| Millwall fans on 15:44 - Aug 8 with 4877 views | switchingcode |
| Millwall fans on 15:39 - Aug 8 by Hayesender |
Police have just called the boys mum. No further action, have admitted he shouldn't have been arrested, and have apologised.
Not good enough imo, and the officer who has literally batterd a 16 year old lad for no reason needs bringing to book.
Police also confirmed it is the clubs decision to let their fans out at the same time as the home fans, against the advice of the police which I find astonishing [Post edited 8 Aug 2021 15:53]
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Good to hear as annoyed as you are now don’t bother complaining you will hit a brick wall. | | | |
| Millwall fans on 15:51 - Aug 8 with 4834 views | Hayesender |
| Millwall fans on 15:44 - Aug 8 by switchingcode |
Good to hear as annoyed as you are now don’t bother complaining you will hit a brick wall. |
I understand what you're saying, but if you could see the state of his legs you'd think differently.
He looks like he's been hit by a car | |
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| Millwall fans on 15:54 - Aug 8 with 4810 views | BrianMcCarthy |
| Millwall fans on 15:51 - Aug 8 by Hayesender |
I understand what you're saying, but if you could see the state of his legs you'd think differently.
He looks like he's been hit by a car |
Sorry to hear you're news, Hayes.
I think you're right - you have to pursue this with the Police. Because it's wrong, because you're right and because the Police be allowed to get away without at least a fight from you. |  |
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| Millwall fans on 15:57 - Aug 8 with 4788 views | Fenwick_115 |
| Millwall fans on 15:39 - Aug 8 by Hayesender |
Police have just called the boys mum. No further action, have admitted he shouldn't have been arrested, and have apologised.
Not good enough imo, and the officer who has literally batterd a 16 year old lad for no reason needs bringing to book.
Police also confirmed it is the clubs decision to let their fans out at the same time as the home fans, against the advice of the police which I find astonishing [Post edited 8 Aug 2021 15:53]
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Hayesender, that's great news for your son and yourself. Common sense has prevailed.
Not sure if I'd go through the effort of taking action against the Police officer as it is unlikely to go anywhere and you yourself admitted that he kicked someone in the head. They will just say that they arrived after the incident began and had no way of identifying who were the main pertbetrators were and used the right amount of force. Up to you, of course, but it'll draw out for a long time. Bashing those involved in fights at football and releasing them without charge is an old practice and they have the answers they need to never lose any claims.
Enjoy your night out at Orient on Wednesday and try to put it behind you both 👠| | | |
| Millwall fans on 16:04 - Aug 8 with 4723 views | switchingcode |
| Millwall fans on 15:57 - Aug 8 by Fenwick_115 |
Hayesender, that's great news for your son and yourself. Common sense has prevailed.
Not sure if I'd go through the effort of taking action against the Police officer as it is unlikely to go anywhere and you yourself admitted that he kicked someone in the head. They will just say that they arrived after the incident began and had no way of identifying who were the main pertbetrators were and used the right amount of force. Up to you, of course, but it'll draw out for a long time. Bashing those involved in fights at football and releasing them without charge is an old practice and they have the answers they need to never lose any claims.
Enjoy your night out at Orient on Wednesday and try to put it behind you both 👠|
I totally agree that’s why I suggested as hard as it is in the long run it’s best to move on. | | | |
| Millwall fans on 16:05 - Aug 8 with 4718 views | Hayesender |
| Millwall fans on 15:57 - Aug 8 by Fenwick_115 |
Hayesender, that's great news for your son and yourself. Common sense has prevailed.
Not sure if I'd go through the effort of taking action against the Police officer as it is unlikely to go anywhere and you yourself admitted that he kicked someone in the head. They will just say that they arrived after the incident began and had no way of identifying who were the main pertbetrators were and used the right amount of force. Up to you, of course, but it'll draw out for a long time. Bashing those involved in fights at football and releasing them without charge is an old practice and they have the answers they need to never lose any claims.
Enjoy your night out at Orient on Wednesday and try to put it behind you both 👠|
Regarding the kicking someone in the head, that's just been proven not to be the case as well.
The fella who got kicked in the head confirmed it wasn't him that did it, he just happened to get caught up in the chaos trying to protect his little brother, so he has been battered and knicked for no reason at all.
I've also just been reminded that I got run over by a car when I ended up trying to defend myself from the two Millwall fans. That would account for the bruised ribs and sore knee today | |
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| Millwall fans on 16:14 - Aug 8 with 4677 views | Fenwick_115 |
| Millwall fans on 16:05 - Aug 8 by Hayesender |
Regarding the kicking someone in the head, that's just been proven not to be the case as well.
The fella who got kicked in the head confirmed it wasn't him that did it, he just happened to get caught up in the chaos trying to protect his little brother, so he has been battered and knicked for no reason at all.
I've also just been reminded that I got run over by a car when I ended up trying to defend myself from the two Millwall fans. That would account for the bruised ribs and sore knee today |
That's good news about the kick in the head being disproved but, and still entirely up to you and what you need to do, they will still say that they acted with appropriate force according to the situation they encountered...
Knocked over as well? Blimey, you had a pretty shit day mate. You deserve a drink today! | | | |
| Millwall fans on 16:26 - Aug 8 with 4600 views | distortR |
| Millwall fans on 12:35 - Aug 8 by Rangersw12 |
Way over the top policing and overaction to 2 Rangers defending themselves against 10 Millwall
But it's no surprise the cowardly police go for the 2 Rangers as they were pandering to the Millwall fans all day . It does my head in especially as were treated like scum when we go to there hovel of a ground |
yeah, the breakdown of the arrests tells you nothing at all.
Potentially, the 2 in the video, Hayesender and his stepson make up 4 of the 11 already.
Why nick the 2 and not the 10 originally wading in (All presumption on my part)? Because it's about containment, not upholding the law, it's about preventing more problems by nicking a couple of them and then the large group turning on you. Far easier to nick the 2 blokes and get them out of the area. | | | |
| Millwall fans on 16:29 - Aug 8 with 4576 views | BazzaInTheLoft |
This was right outside Nandos. Would be a massive coincidence if it happened in the same place more than once.
Was this you Hayes? Might be worth forwarding to the Police if so:
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| Millwall fans on 16:40 - Aug 8 with 4504 views | Boston |
| Millwall fans on 15:57 - Aug 8 by Fenwick_115 |
Hayesender, that's great news for your son and yourself. Common sense has prevailed.
Not sure if I'd go through the effort of taking action against the Police officer as it is unlikely to go anywhere and you yourself admitted that he kicked someone in the head. They will just say that they arrived after the incident began and had no way of identifying who were the main pertbetrators were and used the right amount of force. Up to you, of course, but it'll draw out for a long time. Bashing those involved in fights at football and releasing them without charge is an old practice and they have the answers they need to never lose any claims.
Enjoy your night out at Orient on Wednesday and try to put it behind you both 👠|
As Richard Spencer at the then Powell, McGrath & Spencer would occasionally remind me, if you're cleared for any reason that's a win, don't push it. | |
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| Millwall fans on 16:41 - Aug 8 with 4509 views | Hayesender |
| Millwall fans on 16:29 - Aug 8 by BazzaInTheLoft |
This was right outside Nandos. Would be a massive coincidence if it happened in the same place more than once.
Was this you Hayes? Might be worth forwarding to the Police if so:
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That's my 11 year old stepson in the home shirt on the floor. This was before I got there as I was making my way down to the Coningham at this point before getting a phone call off of their mum who was distraught.
The two that attacked me was probably about 10 minutes later and we ended up over some poor sods bonnet | |
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| Millwall fans on 07:48 - Aug 9 with 3599 views | 80s__boy |
Just been catching up with all the opinions and posts from the weekend
Absolutely animals and sorry your family has had to go through this.
Happy that all seems to have been cleared up now but that will offer scant consolation. |  | | |
| Millwall fans on 08:37 - Aug 9 with 3466 views | 80s__boy |
| Millwall fans on 12:17 - Aug 8 by Esox_Lucius |
Hold them back at the end for 30 minutes and then release 50 at a time with an escort back to the train station even if it takes until 9pm or longer. Make sure Millwall FC are fully responsible for the costs of the extra policing. |
'Hold them back after the carnival for an hour and then slowly release them 1000 at a time with an escort back to the train station even if it takes until 9pm or longer.
Make sure the Notting Hill Carnival Ltd are full responsible for the costs of extra policing'
Strange how a few changes of words can expose the hypocrisy of some who are normally so left wing and anti discrimination....
Just saying. [Post edited 9 Aug 2021 8:38]
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| Millwall fans on 08:51 - Aug 9 with 3407 views | 80s__boy |
| Millwall fans on 08:37 - Aug 9 by 80s__boy |
'Hold them back after the carnival for an hour and then slowly release them 1000 at a time with an escort back to the train station even if it takes until 9pm or longer.
Make sure the Notting Hill Carnival Ltd are full responsible for the costs of extra policing'
Strange how a few changes of words can expose the hypocrisy of some who are normally so left wing and anti discrimination....
Just saying. [Post edited 9 Aug 2021 8:38]
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The solution, by the way, has to be holding them back for 30 minutes whilst we all leave the area and for them to be escorted to White City - en masse, Esox - and put onto waiting trains. The extra platforms there allow trains to be waiting for their arrival. | | | |
| Millwall fans on 09:15 - Aug 9 with 3326 views | switchingcode |
| Millwall fans on 16:41 - Aug 8 by Hayesender |
That's my 11 year old stepson in the home shirt on the floor. This was before I got there as I was making my way down to the Coningham at this point before getting a phone call off of their mum who was distraught.
The two that attacked me was probably about 10 minutes later and we ended up over some poor sods bonnet |
Many years back I got beaten up by west midland police at an away game at Walsall it took over nine months of trying to get justice before I had to throw the towel in even though I had a witness,(there was no mobile phones with cameras back then )When its your word versus the police you can’t win.Enjoy your night out at Orient Wednesday | | | |
| Millwall fans on 09:23 - Aug 9 with 3282 views | 80s__boy |
| Millwall fans on 09:15 - Aug 9 by switchingcode |
Many years back I got beaten up by west midland police at an away game at Walsall it took over nine months of trying to get justice before I had to throw the towel in even though I had a witness,(there was no mobile phones with cameras back then )When its your word versus the police you can’t win.Enjoy your night out at Orient Wednesday |
West Midlands Police are the worst for that.
Will never forget a match I went at St Andrews (non QPR) and at Moor Street they pulled a bloke out of the crowd took him to the side and offered him an option of being arrested and missing the last train back or resolving the matter there and then.
Even though he knew what was coming he opted for the latter so they took him behind the brick building as you approach the station and bashed him up for a minute and then told him to F off... | | | |
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