| Rainbow armband 07:41 - Nov 21 with 2859 views | Whiterockin |
If Kane and Bale receive the yellow card on entering the playing area as suggested, should the team walk off and withdraw. Biggest statement possible. |  | | |  |
| Rainbow armband on 11:46 - Nov 21 with 1066 views | Sirjohnalot |
| Rainbow armband on 10:45 - Nov 21 by onehunglow |
Wales .and they’re some thinking we were better than anyone.
Let’s get the fark out of there
All countries should ideally simply get out |
We'd be in breach of contract. Too late now |  | | |
| Rainbow armband on 12:48 - Nov 21 with 1002 views | onehunglow |
| Rainbow armband on 11:46 - Nov 21 by Sirjohnalot |
We'd be in breach of contract. Too late now |
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| Rainbow armband on 15:50 - Nov 21 with 958 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
Bale and Kane promoted 'one love' armbands. The first point is to assess what it means and who is behind it. FAW cannot leave these things to indiviual players.
'Onelove' is not promoted by groups such as Stonewall or racial discrimination groups but came out of the Netherlands and supported by Denmark Norway and others as 'notionally' a protest against the treatment of migrant workers and the LGBT community.
The actual wording is bland general anti discrimination stuff and FIFA have simply taking the bland wording and repackaged it with their own armband.
FIFA have followed the example of the FA. The FA let the players do their own thing with BLM. Birch allowed the whole Swansea squad kneel in front of a BLM logo. Once the y did some due dilligence of this organisation they started to use their brains and wondered what they were signing up for. "defunding the police" "commune living" instead of the "man and wife model" etc. . Alun Michael the south Wales Police commission was not involved in discussion with Birch or Matt Grimes, No one mentioned the black man allegedly mistreated in Cardiff at roughly the same time leading to his premature death.
Knowing the football fans are pretty dim lot the FA re-branded the ""taking the knee" stating it a was about all discrimination (excluding sheep slurs). Thinking fans who said wait a minute this is total nonsense were branded as far right idiots.
FIFA are simply going through the same process as the FA. Because the one love armband was not specifically about migrant workers FIFA have hijacked the bland message of the players and sold it as their own . Bale and Kane have been mugged. Piece of cake. [Post edited 21 Nov 2022 16:42]
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| Rainbow armband on 21:21 - Nov 21 with 890 views | Jack_Kass |
It would be a retrospective booking I think. | |
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| Rainbow armband on 21:41 - Nov 21 with 866 views | Sirjohnalot |
Why don’t the managers wear them ? | | | |
| Rainbow armband on 21:49 - Nov 21 with 844 views | Flashberryjack |
| Rainbow armband on 21:41 - Nov 21 by Sirjohnalot |
Why don’t the managers wear them ? |
Managers aren't as dull as players. |  |
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| Rainbow armband on 21:53 - Nov 21 with 830 views | Sirjohnalot |
| Rainbow armband on 21:49 - Nov 21 by Flashberryjack |
Managers aren't as dull as players. |
Point being they won’t suffer the same threat. | | | |
| Rainbow armband on 21:56 - Nov 21 with 822 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Rainbow armband on 21:41 - Nov 21 by Sirjohnalot |
Why don’t the managers wear them ? |
Presumably because they are in managerial positions and feel that they have a responsibility not to impose their personal views onto the people in effect "working for them". This would have a mandatory feel to it. Wear the armband like me or you do not play.
They are to organise a football team not use the role to forward personal opinions. Wales could have got around the One love thing by making Chris Gunter captain for the day and substituting him after 5 minutes. That is what "Gunts" is for.
Qatar Infantino and football needs the off beat thinking of people from up the Neath Valley to keep everyone happy. Gunts would not be able to hand it over to Bale, If he did Bale would have been sent off for a perfectly good tackle. | |
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| Rainbow armband on 22:21 - Nov 21 with 800 views | Sirjohnalot |
| Rainbow armband on 21:56 - Nov 21 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Presumably because they are in managerial positions and feel that they have a responsibility not to impose their personal views onto the people in effect "working for them". This would have a mandatory feel to it. Wear the armband like me or you do not play.
They are to organise a football team not use the role to forward personal opinions. Wales could have got around the One love thing by making Chris Gunter captain for the day and substituting him after 5 minutes. That is what "Gunts" is for.
Qatar Infantino and football needs the off beat thinking of people from up the Neath Valley to keep everyone happy. Gunts would not be able to hand it over to Bale, If he did Bale would have been sent off for a perfectly good tackle. |
I’m only talking about the teams that wanted their captains to wear the armbands. Instead of the captains, the managers wear it.
Agree that we can’t risk losing Bale, but it just shows what a sh show the whole thing is | | | |
| Rainbow armband on 22:24 - Nov 21 with 791 views | mart66 |
| Rainbow armband on 21:53 - Nov 21 by Sirjohnalot |
Point being they won’t suffer the same threat. |
But seriously speaking now, what would it achieve?
I think at that point it becomes more of a petty game than actually looking to make a significant change to the plight. I think the message and the point gets completely lost in these things.
Let’s say you are a homosexual in a county that makes it illegal due to deep rooted religious values that will never change. A manager of a football team from another country where it is legal sticks on a multicoloured armband for 90 mins - what’s changed other than Southgate feeling better about himself.
I’m sure the person is fully aware that people in less religious countries where it is legal, find it (largely) perfectly fine, so it’s not new information. What does it actually achieve?
I just don’t see these gestures as anything other than a personal back patting exercise while doing absolutely nothing to deserve it. |  |
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| Rainbow armband on 09:25 - Nov 22 with 679 views | jack247 |
| Rainbow armband on 21:56 - Nov 21 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Presumably because they are in managerial positions and feel that they have a responsibility not to impose their personal views onto the people in effect "working for them". This would have a mandatory feel to it. Wear the armband like me or you do not play.
They are to organise a football team not use the role to forward personal opinions. Wales could have got around the One love thing by making Chris Gunter captain for the day and substituting him after 5 minutes. That is what "Gunts" is for.
Qatar Infantino and football needs the off beat thinking of people from up the Neath Valley to keep everyone happy. Gunts would not be able to hand it over to Bale, If he did Bale would have been sent off for a perfectly good tackle. |
So waste one of your substitution windows. What happens if you use the other two tactically and player gets injured with 10 mins left?
I’d argue a booking is probably better than that, or in this case, just toe the FIFA line. The fuss over this has raised more awareness than an armband would have. | | | |
| Rainbow armband on 14:00 - Nov 23 with 615 views | Whiterockin |
Good gesture by Germany today. There would have been less attention if they had allowed the captain to wear it. [Post edited 23 Nov 2022 14:01]
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| Rainbow armband on 15:18 - Nov 23 with 574 views | Whiterockin |
| Rainbow armband on 15:17 - Nov 23 by britferry |
they also did the same when Japan scored their winner |
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| Rainbow armband on 15:51 - Nov 23 with 556 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
They forgot what they were there for. Lose focus and lose. Wales sang a beautiful anthem then put one of the most timid performances since that Brummie was in charge. | |
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