| “ Working people” .Again 09:08 - Oct 15 with 2695 views | onehunglow |
This appalling ,patronising phrase is evident again,it seems ,with Starmer vis a vis NI Contributions .
Now ,is the suggestion that Employers are not actually “ working people “ but those employed by them are .
Is there an assumption that business owners ,be they a coffee shop owner or head of Ineos are by definition NOT working people .
I suppose this is better than “ ordinary people”
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| “ Working people” .Again on 11:13 - Oct 15 with 1925 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
I don't think he has realised that most people work in small businesses. He's focused on the big organisations. |  |
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| “ Working people” .Again on 11:17 - Oct 15 with 1921 views | Whiterockin |
| “ Working people” .Again on 11:13 - Oct 15 by JACKMANANDBOY |
I don't think he has realised that most people work in small businesses. He's focused on the big organisations. |
So those running a company, retired, unemployed, volunteering and in full time education to name but a few categories mean nothing to Labour because they are not "working people", really. [Post edited 15 Oct 11:18]
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| “ Working people” .Again on 11:34 - Oct 15 with 1909 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
| “ Working people” .Again on 11:17 - Oct 15 by Whiterockin |
So those running a company, retired, unemployed, volunteering and in full time education to name but a few categories mean nothing to Labour because they are not "working people", really. [Post edited 15 Oct 11:18]
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It's political nonsense. | |
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| “ Working people” .Again on 12:24 - Oct 15 with 1892 views | onehunglow |
| “ Working people” .Again on 11:17 - Oct 15 by Whiterockin |
So those running a company, retired, unemployed, volunteering and in full time education to name but a few categories mean nothing to Labour because they are not "working people", really. [Post edited 15 Oct 11:18]
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Working people is a term to ensure people stay in their place
Labour are no more interested in “ ordinary “ folk at Tories .
It’s just Labour uses these people for political ends
It doesn’t wash
Right now,small businesses ,people who decide to have a go in life, are dreading emptying people in future
The new contribution increases and “ rights” Will see many simply not bother in future | |
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| “ Working people” .Again on 17:54 - Oct 15 with 1802 views | SullutaCreturned |
| “ Working people” .Again on 12:24 - Oct 15 by onehunglow |
Working people is a term to ensure people stay in their place
Labour are no more interested in “ ordinary “ folk at Tories .
It’s just Labour uses these people for political ends
It doesn’t wash
Right now,small businesses ,people who decide to have a go in life, are dreading emptying people in future
The new contribution increases and “ rights” Will see many simply not bother in future |
Personally I'm dreading a small business person "remptying" me! | | | |
| “ Working people” .Again on 18:47 - Oct 15 with 1770 views | PawelAbbott |
With the predicted doubling of Capital Gains Tax, increased workers rights, higher minimum wage and increased employers NI. The working people might find that they have nowhere to work, fairly soon | | | |
| “ Working people” .Again on 19:06 - Oct 15 with 1747 views | Whiterockin |
| “ Working people” .Again on 18:47 - Oct 15 by PawelAbbott |
With the predicted doubling of Capital Gains Tax, increased workers rights, higher minimum wage and increased employers NI. The working people might find that they have nowhere to work, fairly soon |
Small business employing one or two people may well disappear with the owners deciding it's better to shut up shop and work for someone else or work alone. | | | |
| “ Working people” .Again on 19:38 - Oct 15 with 1705 views | AguycalledJack |
Labour don't like working people and they certainly don't like those who try to better themselves. | | | |
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| “ Working people” .Again on 20:34 - Oct 15 with 1639 views | onehunglow |
| “ Working people” .Again on 19:38 - Oct 15 by AguycalledJack |
Labour don't like working people and they certainly don't like those who try to better themselves. |
As sooon as I hear wealthy lawyer politicians come up with this,I recoil.
Lovely Rachel isn’t poor either,not even “ working class” ,not like Angela Ray .
There again, when in power,the plebs are there to be hit | |
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| “ Working people” .Again on 00:39 - Oct 16 with 1563 views | Robbie |
| “ Working people” .Again on 19:38 - Oct 15 by AguycalledJack |
Labour don't like working people and they certainly don't like those who try to better themselves. |
Born and bred on a Council House Estate to working class Parents who looked after myself and my Sister with no expense spared bringing us up , we both have since moved on from them days but I still look back at Working Class proudly from them days .
I could well be called Middle Class with own house , car , mortgage free and savings .
Sadly so many people use foodbanks , and take to shoplifting as away out of poverty now .
Where did society and equality break down , even back in the day there were Posh people .
Way things are today in the current climate we live in , loved my time growing up back then . | | | |
| “ Working people” .Again on 08:53 - Oct 16 with 1483 views | onehunglow |
| “ Working people” .Again on 00:39 - Oct 16 by Robbie |
Born and bred on a Council House Estate to working class Parents who looked after myself and my Sister with no expense spared bringing us up , we both have since moved on from them days but I still look back at Working Class proudly from them days .
I could well be called Middle Class with own house , car , mortgage free and savings .
Sadly so many people use foodbanks , and take to shoplifting as away out of poverty now .
Where did society and equality break down , even back in the day there were Posh people .
Way things are today in the current climate we live in , loved my time growing up back then . |
You’re a class act Robbie.
Don’t categorise yourself
With my lifestyle I would be graded middle class and my kids the same .
We can be what we want to be | |
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| “ Working people” .Again on 10:38 - Oct 16 with 1456 views | controversial_jack |
| “ Working people” .Again on 08:53 - Oct 16 by onehunglow |
You’re a class act Robbie.
Don’t categorise yourself
With my lifestyle I would be graded middle class and my kids the same .
We can be what we want to be |
Everyone works , even the king, but business owners would be classed as middle class. | | | |
| “ Working people” .Again on 11:10 - Oct 16 with 1452 views | Whiterockin |
| “ Working people” .Again on 10:38 - Oct 16 by controversial_jack |
Everyone works , even the king, but business owners would be classed as middle class. |
I don't anymore. | | | |
| “ Working people” .Again on 13:04 - Oct 16 with 1412 views | controversial_jack |
| “ Working people” .Again on 11:10 - Oct 16 by Whiterockin |
I don't anymore. |
Nor me | | | |
| “ Working people” .Again on 13:37 - Oct 16 with 1398 views | onehunglow |
| “ Working people” .Again on 10:38 - Oct 16 by controversial_jack |
Everyone works , even the king, but business owners would be classed as middle class. |
So a coffee stall owner outside a train station is middle class ?
We are obsessed with class | |
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| “ Working people” .Again on 13:48 - Oct 16 with 1393 views | controversial_jack |
| “ Working people” .Again on 13:37 - Oct 16 by onehunglow |
So a coffee stall owner outside a train station is middle class ?
We are obsessed with class |
Correct! Social stratification is mostly subjective, but there are certain aspects that determine the various classes. Occupation is seen as the most objective of them.
There are different levels of middle class too. | | | |
| “ Working people” .Again on 13:52 - Oct 16 with 1392 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
| “ Working people” .Again on 13:37 - Oct 16 by onehunglow |
So a coffee stall owner outside a train station is middle class ?
We are obsessed with class |
My neighbour, a carpenter, employs two people. He definitely works and stuffing up employers NI will impact him.
Small businesses employ the majority of working people, the problem is that those in charge rarely seem in charge of the facts. | |
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| “ Working people” .Again on 14:05 - Oct 16 with 1382 views | onehunglow |
| “ Working people” .Again on 13:52 - Oct 16 by JACKMANANDBOY |
My neighbour, a carpenter, employs two people. He definitely works and stuffing up employers NI will impact him.
Small businesses employ the majority of working people, the problem is that those in charge rarely seem in charge of the facts. |
My family were builders,ergo we were all “ middle class”
Absolute crap
It’s perceived as professions as Contro says as footballers would be upper middle class or landed gentry if down to money | |
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| “ Working people” .Again on 14:28 - Oct 16 with 1360 views | Whiterockin |
| “ Working people” .Again on 14:05 - Oct 16 by onehunglow |
My family were builders,ergo we were all “ middle class”
Absolute crap
It’s perceived as professions as Contro says as footballers would be upper middle class or landed gentry if down to money |
IMO class is the way in which you proceed through life and has nothing to do with monetary value.
You could always take the test.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-22000973 | | | |
| “ Working people” .Again on 14:34 - Oct 16 with 1345 views | onehunglow |
Good point
We’re now entering the realms of polysemy
I’m not bright enough for this.
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| “ Working people” .Again on 14:58 - Oct 16 with 1297 views | Whiterockin |
That's from the USA and some would say Americans have no idea about class. | | | |
| “ Working people” .Again on 15:39 - Oct 16 with 1253 views | controversial_jack |
| “ Working people” .Again on 14:58 - Oct 16 by Whiterockin |
That's from the USA and some would say Americans have no idea about class. |
Many sociologists are American. They have a more defined system than we do. The well off and the dirt poor | | | |
| “ Working people” .Again on 16:20 - Oct 16 with 1222 views | Kilkennyjack |
| “ Working people” .Again on 00:39 - Oct 16 by Robbie |
Born and bred on a Council House Estate to working class Parents who looked after myself and my Sister with no expense spared bringing us up , we both have since moved on from them days but I still look back at Working Class proudly from them days .
I could well be called Middle Class with own house , car , mortgage free and savings .
Sadly so many people use foodbanks , and take to shoplifting as away out of poverty now .
Where did society and equality break down , even back in the day there were Posh people .
Way things are today in the current climate we live in , loved my time growing up back then . |
This is the real Swansea Way, great post. |  |
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| “ Working people” .Again on 16:42 - Oct 16 with 1206 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| “ Working people” .Again on 15:39 - Oct 16 by controversial_jack |
Many sociologists are American. They have a more defined system than we do. The well off and the dirt poor |
Sociology is a pseudoscience and should be filed in the same bin as homeopathy and astrology. |  |
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