| paddy's day 16:42 - Mar 15 with 2465 views | digswellhoop |
Why do they majority support paddy day
But not ST George's day? |  | | |  |
| paddy's day on 20:43 - Mar 15 with 864 views | HAMRanger |
| paddy's day on 20:30 - Mar 15 by Benny_the_Ball |
Agree with the second statement, not the first. The UK also has a history of invasion, colonisation and subjugation but it isn't fresh in the memory. The Vikings, Normans and Romans didn't exactly pop to Britain for a holiday.
More likely is the English reserve. Stiff upper lip, keep calm and carry on, chin up old bean, don't make a fuss, etc. That would go some way to explaining why St. George's Day isn't massively celebrated by ex-pats abroad.
However, in London it almost feels like a crime to be a proud Englishman. Say that you're a proud Brit, that's ok. Say you're a proud Englishman and you're treated to a number of compliments like racist, bigot, neo-Nazi, etc. |
again utter bollox. "it almost feels like"  No one gives a shite if you're a proud Englishman or not... just don't be a racist! |  | | |
| paddy's day on 20:59 - Mar 15 with 797 views | A40Bosh |
| paddy's day on 18:01 - Mar 15 by BrianMcCarthy |
As someone who's lived in both countries, that's how I see it too, Kensal.
St. Patrick's Day is not a huge event in Ireland, by the way. It's much bigger among Irish immigrants. |
Ye still get the day off though 😉
I remember pre-kids we would book the day of, and the day after off and would be out until 3am at the Shebeen in Acton High St following a band called The Craic.
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| paddy's day on 21:01 - Mar 15 with 785 views | ted_hendrix |
Same thread every year. |  |
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| paddy's day on 21:10 - Mar 15 with 752 views | HotCurrie |
I'm half Irish and half English so have thought about this a lot over the years. St Patrick's Day is a celebration of a nationhood and identity that was denied for 800 years as Ireland was subjugated, exploited, starved and even denied its native language. In light of that dark history (and the legacy of emigration) it's easy to see why it's a celebration all over the world.
St George's Day doesn't really have a strong enough identity. George is the patron Saint of England, but also Georgia, Portugal, Ethiopia, Palestine, Lithuania, Bulgaria, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Serbia and Greece. Oh and Catalonia too. England is not a nation, it's part of the United Kingdom so what exactly are we supposed to celebrate on that day? In the town I live in, we usually get a few drunk fat blokes in England shirts marching down the street with flags singing the Dambusters theme or 'No Surrender to the IRA'. Most people ignore them and don't wish to be associated with behaviour that is anti something rather than FOR something positive and inclusive. I wish they would call it Shakespeare's Birthday rather than St George's Day. It's the same day (23 April), Shakespeare was undeniably English and transformed our language from what was then considered low doggerel into the highest form of poetic expression. We could all get behind a holiday in his name and use it to celebrate whatever Englishness means to ourselves in a non-political and unifying way. |  | | |
| paddy's day on 21:13 - Mar 15 with 737 views | HAMRanger |
| paddy's day on 21:10 - Mar 15 by HotCurrie |
I'm half Irish and half English so have thought about this a lot over the years. St Patrick's Day is a celebration of a nationhood and identity that was denied for 800 years as Ireland was subjugated, exploited, starved and even denied its native language. In light of that dark history (and the legacy of emigration) it's easy to see why it's a celebration all over the world.
St George's Day doesn't really have a strong enough identity. George is the patron Saint of England, but also Georgia, Portugal, Ethiopia, Palestine, Lithuania, Bulgaria, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Serbia and Greece. Oh and Catalonia too. England is not a nation, it's part of the United Kingdom so what exactly are we supposed to celebrate on that day? In the town I live in, we usually get a few drunk fat blokes in England shirts marching down the street with flags singing the Dambusters theme or 'No Surrender to the IRA'. Most people ignore them and don't wish to be associated with behaviour that is anti something rather than FOR something positive and inclusive. I wish they would call it Shakespeare's Birthday rather than St George's Day. It's the same day (23 April), Shakespeare was undeniably English and transformed our language from what was then considered low doggerel into the highest form of poetic expression. We could all get behind a holiday in his name and use it to celebrate whatever Englishness means to ourselves in a non-political and unifying way. |
very good point | | | |
| paddy's day on 21:28 - Mar 15 with 649 views | thame_hoops |
This weekend here in Texas has been crazy for st Paddy’s parties. It surprised me. I’m going to a bar Tuesday night for some shenanigans |  | | |
| paddy's day on 21:39 - Mar 15 with 595 views | BrianMcCarthy |
| paddy's day on 20:28 - Mar 15 by HAMRanger |
what a load of bollox!  |
I think that was irony, HAM, hence my upvote. |  |
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| paddy's day on 21:42 - Mar 15 with 568 views | HAMRanger |
| paddy's day on 21:39 - Mar 15 by BrianMcCarthy |
I think that was irony, HAM, hence my upvote. |
ah ok. fair enough, my bad | | | |
| paddy's day on 21:43 - Mar 15 with 560 views | Myke |
| paddy's day on 18:01 - Mar 15 by BrianMcCarthy |
As someone who's lived in both countries, that's how I see it too, Kensal.
St. Patrick's Day is not a huge event in Ireland, by the way. It's much bigger among Irish immigrants. |
‘St Patrick’s day in not a huge event in Ireland, by the way. It is much bigger among Irish immigrants.
Not often I disagree with you Brian, but you are totally wrong on this observation. Okay, so we may not chuck green dye into nearest river, but paddy’s day is celebrated in every corner of our little country. I come from a tiny village of 400 people extended over a rural area of 8 miles and we are about to embark on our 38th parade, interrupted only by Covid. I think St Patrick’s day is massively important in Ireland, both economically and culturally.
In answer to the OP’s question, it’s just more craic is all. Plus we don’t mess about by moving it to the nearest weekend to celebrate it. The 17th is the 17th and that’s it. [Post edited 15 Mar 21:44]
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| paddy's day on 21:46 - Mar 15 with 548 views | SydneyRs |
This whining about it being celebrated more than St George's day was a big thing on Facebook etc a few years ago. Thankfully its died down since then.
Nobody is stopping the English from celebrating it. | | | |
| paddy's day on 22:08 - Mar 15 with 494 views | BrianWilson |
| paddy's day on 21:48 - Mar 15 by BrianMcCarthy |
It's definitely not the biggest day of the year in Ireland, Brian, or at least not down my way.
Stephen's Day is the biggest down our way.
Christmas Day next.
New Year's Eve probably third.
Christmas Eve next?
Maybe St. Patrick's Day fifth? |
I dunno Brian...Stephens Day is a big one but the others don't come close as far as I can see though tbh I have not lived in Ireland for 15 years or so but am back a few times a year. |  |
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| paddy's day on 22:46 - Mar 15 with 405 views | BrianMcCarthy |
| paddy's day on 21:43 - Mar 15 by Myke |
‘St Patrick’s day in not a huge event in Ireland, by the way. It is much bigger among Irish immigrants.
Not often I disagree with you Brian, but you are totally wrong on this observation. Okay, so we may not chuck green dye into nearest river, but paddy’s day is celebrated in every corner of our little country. I come from a tiny village of 400 people extended over a rural area of 8 miles and we are about to embark on our 38th parade, interrupted only by Covid. I think St Patrick’s day is massively important in Ireland, both economically and culturally.
In answer to the OP’s question, it’s just more craic is all. Plus we don’t mess about by moving it to the nearest weekend to celebrate it. The 17th is the 17th and that’s it. [Post edited 15 Mar 21:44]
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Sorry, Myke, I should have said that it's just not a a huge event around our way. | |
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| paddy's day on 22:59 - Mar 15 with 378 views | Myke |
| paddy's day on 22:46 - Mar 15 by BrianMcCarthy |
Sorry, Myke, I should have said that it's just not a a huge event around our way. |
Yeah I was reading your list of where it comes in terms of significance and was very surprised. I’d be with Brian Wilson on this one. I would argue that Paddy’s day is bigger than Xmas day, but that could be just personal bias. But deffo bigger than the others on your list. Once we hit the New Year, Paddy’s day becomes the focus up here. | | | |
| paddy's day on 23:19 - Mar 15 with 343 views | BrianMcCarthy |
| paddy's day on 22:59 - Mar 15 by Myke |
Yeah I was reading your list of where it comes in terms of significance and was very surprised. I’d be with Brian Wilson on this one. I would argue that Paddy’s day is bigger than Xmas day, but that could be just personal bias. But deffo bigger than the others on your list. Once we hit the New Year, Paddy’s day becomes the focus up here. |
The funny thing is, down our way, we don't massively celebrate it, but we hate it being called 'Paddy's Day'.
It's 'St. Patrick's Day' down here, especially amongst those of us who're old enough to have been smeared as 'Paddies', 'Micks' or 'Biddys'. | |
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| paddy's day on 23:33 - Mar 15 with 316 views | Toast_R |
| paddy's day on 17:47 - Mar 15 by joe90 |
The only Saint Georges day tradition I’m aware of is moaning about nobody celebrating Saint Georges day. Let’s be honest, that’s much less appealing than having a pint of Guinness. |
Thats old hat mate
The latest tradition is the obligatory virtue signal that Saint George was Turkish and would be hounded from UK if he were to set foot here ...etc. |  | | |
| paddy's day on 23:52 - Mar 15 with 292 views | jack10qpr |
| paddy's day on 18:27 - Mar 15 by BazzaInTheLoft |
These days, if you say you're English, you get arrested and thrown in jail. |
When did this come in? |  | | |
| paddy's day on 00:07 - Mar 16 with 269 views | Boston |
| paddy's day on 23:52 - Mar 15 by jack10qpr |
When did this come in? |
With the Normans. | |
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| paddy's day on 00:12 - Mar 16 with 258 views | Boston |
| paddy's day on 22:59 - Mar 15 by Myke |
Yeah I was reading your list of where it comes in terms of significance and was very surprised. I’d be with Brian Wilson on this one. I would argue that Paddy’s day is bigger than Xmas day, but that could be just personal bias. But deffo bigger than the others on your list. Once we hit the New Year, Paddy’s day becomes the focus up here. |
Big fun day in Waikiki, Oahu. Was there two years ago and we had a blast. | |
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| paddy's day on 00:13 - Mar 16 with 257 views | jack10qpr |
| paddy's day on 00:07 - Mar 16 by Boston |
With the Normans. |
Bloody Normans, coming over here, building our castles. | | | |
| paddy's day on 02:16 - Mar 16 with 165 views | Benny_the_Ball |
| paddy's day on 00:13 - Mar 16 by jack10qpr |
Bloody Normans, coming over here, building our castles. |
I always find it funny when folk come out with such quips because, if anything, it demonstrates a commendable quality of the English. Rather than waste energy looking back on events like the Roman invasion or Norman conquest with anger, they focus on the wonders left behind (like castles). |  | | |
| paddy's day on 05:31 - Mar 16 with 109 views | numptydumpty |
Think the answer to your question Digswell, why is St Patricks day celebrated in England more than St Georges Day.
So everyone can drink shedloads of Guinness !!!! [Post edited 16 Mar 5:32]
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| paddy's day on 07:52 - Mar 16 with 6 views | aston_hoop |
Amusingly, I will be spending my St Patrick's day in the. Malaysian city of Georgetown. I doubt they care about either there though |  |
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