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Luke Freeman article in the Independent this morning 08:12 - May 3 with 11627 viewsLunarJetman

‘I’ll make my own pathway’: QPR’s Luke Freeman sets his sights high as he considers the future
Exclusive interview: The 27-year-old, who has spent his senior career in League One and the Championship, tells The Independent that he wants to play for a club with upward ambitions.

Luke Freeman has been the best thing about Queens Park Rangers for the last two seasons but Sunday's game at Sheffield Wednesday could well be his last for the club.
Freeman has just won fans', players' and Junior Hoops' player of the year, a reward for a season of brave, skilful performances, the heartbeat of a struggling team. It is worrying to imagine where they would have finished without him driving them on.
Because a season that briefly threatened to be a success - with QPR two points off the play-offs on Boxing Day - ended in a familiar decline. They have won two of their last 21 games, a run that cost Steve McClaren his job and sees them likely to finish the season just two places above the relegation zone.

Rest of article at this link...


https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/football-league/luke-freeman-interv

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Luke Freeman article in the Independent this morning on 09:56 - May 3 with 3109 viewsTheChef

Luke Freeman article in the Independent this morning on 09:47 - May 3 by Northernr

Keith Stroud is still considered by the PGMOL as not only an adequate referee, but a referee that can be trusted with big games at this level. Forgive me if I don't place too much stock in their marking system.


It's the same as expecting the Football League to punish clubs consistently and effectively through FFP.

Bunch of clowns running our game, was it ever thus...

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Luke Freeman article in the Independent this morning on 09:56 - May 3 with 3107 viewsSimonJames

Maybe when he sees how inspired a managerial appointment TF and his Keystone Cops make next, he'll be motivated to stay... nah!
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Luke Freeman article in the Independent this morning on 09:57 - May 3 with 3105 viewsPinnerPaul

Luke Freeman article in the Independent this morning on 09:47 - May 3 by Northernr

Keith Stroud is still considered by the PGMOL as not only an adequate referee, but a referee that can be trusted with big games at this level. Forgive me if I don't place too much stock in their marking system.


Agree about Mr S certainly!

From what I see of assessments fellow refs post on line at lower levels and the things they get picked up on - sometimes really trivial items that most wouldn't even notice and that don't affect the match, it IS surprising what goes on at this level.

SOME penalty decisions are just opinion, but some do go beyond that to bad decision making.

Like you though, I really don't like the way Mr S manages his matches.
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Luke Freeman article in the Independent this morning on 09:58 - May 3 with 3102 viewsDejR_vu

Luke Freeman article in the Independent this morning on 09:46 - May 3 by PinnerPaul

Hard to argue with much of that.

I don't know, but presume, the marking, and therefore the matches officials get at this level is based over a period of time and not just on one (or more!) 'bad' decisions.

Back to the article - 8! letters IS surprising - less so the players support of McClaren despite the usual nonsense mentioned about him 'losing' the dressing room.


"less so the players support of McClaren"

Then that reflects pretty poorly on the players. Anyone with any backbone, having won 1 in 15, would have been having a good hard look at themselves and their manager.

This goes back to what Eustace was getting at. Too many players going through the motions, too comfortable with losing.

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Luke Freeman article in the Independent this morning on 10:00 - May 3 with 3089 viewsLunarJetman

Luke Freeman article in the Independent this morning on 09:41 - May 3 by Northernr

Seconded. I'm going to edit the original post so it's first few pars and a link.


Valid point gents. Apologies, will remember for next time.
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Luke Freeman article in the Independent this morning on 10:06 - May 3 with 3070 viewsfrancisbowles

As Freeman signed an extension to his contract, this season I think, he will most probably have a release clause in it.

Same may well be the situation with Eze.
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Luke Freeman article in the Independent this morning on 10:26 - May 3 with 3033 viewsWestbourneR

Doesn't matter what we paid - it's what he's worth and he's worth more than £4mill in todays market. I'd hold out for £6million and if we don't get it, keep him. We can't let clubs take the piss.

Now £3million for Luongo would be a harder one to call. You'd probably have to take that.

This summer is going to be very very very hard to get right.

Northern - can I ask - how come you've never gone and got a job writing about football for a national after all these years? Your work is easily up to the level and beyond. You not interested?
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Luke Freeman article in the Independent this morning on 11:06 - May 3 with 2970 viewsblacky200

Luke Freeman article in the Independent this morning on 09:43 - May 3 by stevec

Totally agree, but as dejaR intimates, if there's a bad deal to be done, we'll probably do it.

'We'll give you £4m for Freeman'
'We want £2m'
'£2m? You sure? We'll give you £1.75m'
'Done'


Think you are being a bit cynical there. We take what we can get. Unfortunately we are not in a position of power and not in a position where the player is happy to stay so take what we can and move on.
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Luke Freeman article in the Independent this morning on 11:06 - May 3 with 2970 viewsNorthernr

Luke Freeman article in the Independent this morning on 10:26 - May 3 by WestbourneR

Doesn't matter what we paid - it's what he's worth and he's worth more than £4mill in todays market. I'd hold out for £6million and if we don't get it, keep him. We can't let clubs take the piss.

Now £3million for Luongo would be a harder one to call. You'd probably have to take that.

This summer is going to be very very very hard to get right.

Northern - can I ask - how come you've never gone and got a job writing about football for a national after all these years? Your work is easily up to the level and beyond. You not interested?
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Got offered two low level sports jobs out of uni, one at Hull Daily Mail and one at Press Association. Turned them both down because, obviously, it would have meant working Saturdays and missing QPR and at that point Northern the Elder had cancer and I knew I only had a limited time still going to games with him so didn't want to miss it. Problem is they're the sort of first rung on the ladder jobs you need to progress, so my career just went in a different direction through normal news. Still do Sundays at the Telegraph on sport on odd occasions.
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Luke Freeman article in the Independent this morning on 11:11 - May 3 with 2957 viewsenfieldargh

Luke Freeman article in the Independent this morning on 09:06 - May 3 by Northernr

What's really unacceptable about it is one of those letters was almost certainly about the penalty we should have had in injury time at Wigan where the bloke chucked himself off to the side and saved the shot with two hands. Fine, blatant mistake made, sht happens, write to us an apologise, fine, we'll suck that up.

But then they take that referee (Scott Duncan) and keep giving him Championship games, including Villa v Bristol City where he makes another horrendous call over a penalty that presumably they wrote to Bristol City and apologised for. And he's had us twice since as well, at Norwich, and then again last week against Forest where he once again failed to award us a penalty for a blatant handball.

So it's all well and good writing to us and apologising, but what the fcking hell are you doing about it? Duncan's the same referee that gave that nonsense penalty to Sheff Utd in our first home game. He's been at it all season, three times against us. The apology rings a little bit hollow when you've got the same useless cnt still getting a fcking game again the following week.


Shame we didnt pin a copy of that letter in his dressing room at Loftus road the other week.

Mind you he wouldnt have seen it

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Luke Freeman article in the Independent this morning on 11:11 - May 3 with 2957 viewsngbqpr

Luke Freeman article in the Independent this morning on 10:06 - May 3 by francisbowles

As Freeman signed an extension to his contract, this season I think, he will most probably have a release clause in it.

Same may well be the situation with Eze.


Exactly. Can we all remember this please when the fee is announced (or guessed at / leaked if billed as "undisclosed").

When LF signed the extension, did any of us honestly think he'd stay beyond the end of this season? He played the game..

For better or worse, it's the way things work now.

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Luke Freeman article in the Independent this morning on 11:16 - May 3 with 2942 viewsblacky200

Luke Freeman article in the Independent this morning on 11:11 - May 3 by ngbqpr

Exactly. Can we all remember this please when the fee is announced (or guessed at / leaked if billed as "undisclosed").

When LF signed the extension, did any of us honestly think he'd stay beyond the end of this season? He played the game..

For better or worse, it's the way things work now.


Finally a voice of reason.
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Luke Freeman article in the Independent this morning on 11:18 - May 3 with 2937 viewsnix

Luke Freeman article in the Independent this morning on 09:03 - May 3 by Northernr

The guy that wrote this, and the other interviews at Rangers, always gets in touch with us beforehand asking how things are going, anything he should be specifically focusing on with whoever he's interviewing. That sort of attention to detail shows in his work. I would never presume that I could walk into Bristol City, say, and know everything to ask their best midfielder, so you get in touch with people with local knowledge and sound them out. Yet he's the only one that's ever done so with LFW.


I was thinking, what a refreshingly good article without the normal tropes about QPR and someone who's done some propers research. This explains it.

As for Luke, he's worked so hard for us and I'd be pleased for him if he got to play in the Prem. He's one of those you'd definitely cheer if he came back,

As for referees, they're in general shocking. It does, for instance, now seem to be just accepted that the bigger clubs get the decisions. And the media, at least Sky, just seems to collude with it to keep all those Man U and Man City fans in Twickenham happy....
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Luke Freeman article in the Independent this morning on 13:25 - May 3 with 2742 viewstimcocking

The 'i'll make my own pathway' clickbait headline referred to when he left Arsenal, nothing even to do with QPR.
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Luke Freeman article in the Independent this morning on 14:05 - May 3 with 2649 viewsNW5Hoop

Luke Freeman article in the Independent this morning on 11:18 - May 3 by nix

I was thinking, what a refreshingly good article without the normal tropes about QPR and someone who's done some propers research. This explains it.

As for Luke, he's worked so hard for us and I'd be pleased for him if he got to play in the Prem. He's one of those you'd definitely cheer if he came back,

As for referees, they're in general shocking. It does, for instance, now seem to be just accepted that the bigger clubs get the decisions. And the media, at least Sky, just seems to collude with it to keep all those Man U and Man City fans in Twickenham happy....


He's also a QPR fan, I think.
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Luke Freeman article in the Independent this morning on 14:37 - May 3 with 2588 viewsManinBlack

How thoughtful that we get letters of apology for rubbish decisions losing us points which ultimately played a part in a manager getting sacked. A great comfort to know that if we get relegated next season that we might get a dozen letters of apology for naff decisions contributing to our downfall. How about some financial recompense for income the club will invariably lose if we go down?

As much as I have doubts about VAR, it might be the only thing to stop us from being relegated, in changing garbage decisions by the officials in our favour. Perhaps the EFL are keen to see us disappear down the leagues so they don't want to use it.
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Luke Freeman article in the Independent this morning on 18:22 - May 3 with 2429 viewsJuzzie

Luke Freeman article in the Independent this morning on 09:06 - May 3 by Northernr

What's really unacceptable about it is one of those letters was almost certainly about the penalty we should have had in injury time at Wigan where the bloke chucked himself off to the side and saved the shot with two hands. Fine, blatant mistake made, sht happens, write to us an apologise, fine, we'll suck that up.

But then they take that referee (Scott Duncan) and keep giving him Championship games, including Villa v Bristol City where he makes another horrendous call over a penalty that presumably they wrote to Bristol City and apologised for. And he's had us twice since as well, at Norwich, and then again last week against Forest where he once again failed to award us a penalty for a blatant handball.

So it's all well and good writing to us and apologising, but what the fcking hell are you doing about it? Duncan's the same referee that gave that nonsense penalty to Sheff Utd in our first home game. He's been at it all season, three times against us. The apology rings a little bit hollow when you've got the same useless cnt still getting a fcking game again the following week.


I'm not saying he did a good job, 'cos he didn't, but those lost points also contribute to a manager getting the sack.

Maybe they should send letters of apologies to out of work Managers too.
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Luke Freeman article in the Independent this morning on 06:04 - May 4 with 2242 viewsMatch82

Luke Freeman article in the Independent this morning on 18:22 - May 3 by Juzzie

I'm not saying he did a good job, 'cos he didn't, but those lost points also contribute to a manager getting the sack.

Maybe they should send letters of apologies to out of work Managers too.


I wonder if Graham Taylor ever got one after that Netherlands game
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Luke Freeman article in the Independent this morning on 10:57 - May 4 with 2108 viewsNorthernr

Luke Freeman article in the Independent this morning on 14:05 - May 3 by NW5Hoop

He's also a QPR fan, I think.


Man City, but has a soft spot for us after living locally.
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Luke Freeman article in the Independent this morning on 11:37 - May 4 with 2070 viewsPunteR

Luke Freeman article in the Independent this morning on 10:57 - May 4 by Northernr

Man City, but has a soft spot for us after living locally.


Most city fans have a soft spot for us now i think.

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Luke Freeman article in the Independent this morning on 12:40 - May 4 with 2023 viewscyprusmel

Luke Freeman article in the Independent this morning on 14:37 - May 3 by ManinBlack

How thoughtful that we get letters of apology for rubbish decisions losing us points which ultimately played a part in a manager getting sacked. A great comfort to know that if we get relegated next season that we might get a dozen letters of apology for naff decisions contributing to our downfall. How about some financial recompense for income the club will invariably lose if we go down?

As much as I have doubts about VAR, it might be the only thing to stop us from being relegated, in changing garbage decisions by the officials in our favour. Perhaps the EFL are keen to see us disappear down the leagues so they don't want to use it.


I remember reading that if all the referees decisions had been correct, Ian Holloways Blackpool would have finished 17th and not been relegated.
I don't think referees are cheats, I just think some are not very good.
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Luke Freeman article in the Independent this morning on 23:23 - May 4 with 1828 viewsNorthernr

Further to the referee marking debate, Attwell’s ‘punishment’ for that complete disaster at Leeds last week, complete with over turned red card, was a Premier League appointment today.
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Luke Freeman article in the Independent this morning on 23:44 - May 4 with 1812 viewsPunteR

Luke Freeman article in the Independent this morning on 23:23 - May 4 by Northernr

Further to the referee marking debate, Attwell’s ‘punishment’ for that complete disaster at Leeds last week, complete with over turned red card, was a Premier League appointment today.


Has there been funding cuts to referees or something?

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