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Alan Nixon, journalist, on twitter, saying we have had a £2 million bid accepted. Previously Wigan paid £4 million for the Welsh International forward.
As I also have a season ticket at the DW I've seen Kieffer quite a bit - I think he'll do okay, but he was a slow starter at Wigan, think it was Jan before his first goal. Looked like a confidence thing to me, kept wide and hid behind the last defender for too many games.
On the plus side, check youtube for his goal at the fakes - I don't remember Matt Smith with that sort of touch.
I'm not sure I can commend too many others as worth a look - Morsy is a league one scrapper in my view, we cast an eye over 'Lionel' Massey last term, and he's dropped out of the first team picture a little since, Nathan Byrne at right back is nippy and has a good touch, and obviously if you can get Antonee Robinson, well, as if we have that kind of money...
Sorry Elnombre,
Saw your name, got an immediate 'ear worm', and hope you dont mind....... my son loved this......
Don't quite get the 'we sold Smith so why buy this guy' argument. We sold Smith for a number of very good reasons - not least that he can barely get thrugh 90 mins and can't play twice in a few days. It also freed up cash for other buys/wages. We also sold him because his back to goal game was not awful, it was practically non-existent. Warbs did not sell him just because he's tall. Also, most strikers should do very well with how we play football, and maybe a bigger presence up front could realy help create space for Chair.
Bit like saying we shouldn't buy lower league talent because Connor Washington didn't work out.
1. Signing players 'who have played well against QPR' is the worst reason in the world for signing a player.
2. People are sniffy about Hugill, but Moore has only scored 9 goals all season, and 3 of those were in the last few weeks (1 against us, 2 against Hull). Obviously I hope he 'does a Hugill' and gets a better goal return in a team supplying more chances.
To be honest I always kinda thought signing a proven battering ram link up man with an unremarkable scoring record and relying on him for goals was missing the point a bit from the management and the fans POV. It's great we did succeed in getting him to excel himself to a degree but really his role ought to primarily have been to facilitate others and spread the danger around the side as a whole. Often he was more stranded than he should have been, for my liking.
championship experience 2mill fits in with our wage structure and score goals and will still have a few mill left over from the bos money and its not a loan deal
all sounds promising to me
the fact we can spend money and we wont go mad on players is even more promising
Sure Moore will be given loads more service by QPR than he was at Wigan - as with Hugill, if you Can’t get a ‘season’s best goal tally’ playing warbs-ball, you never will....
If QPR can get Moore for £2m and Flog Eze and Manning to West Ham for £25m + Hugill, we’ll have a strike force with teeth and a bit of cash In the bank.
£25 million + Hugill + a ticket to the moon and a new Tesla for each of our season ticket holders+++
Reading that other clubs in a better position are looking to gazump the move for Moore. Won't be the first time we've been used as bait. Let's see what happens.
Just sifting through a Wigan forum about Moore now and they credit Cook getting more players around him to his spike in form - a hard grafting physical workhorse who needs a strike partner or support to that effect. Likened to Emile Heskey! In January they were suggesting he wasn't suited to the team but now seem to reckon £2m is a steal.
I'm undecided but as signings go it's intriguing at least. Probably leaked news early to drum up interest so not counting chickens yet.
Is this lad really an upgrade on Matt Smith? Goal tally would suggest otherwise. It appears to be a very standard championship move and I am not sure his ceiling is any higher than a mediocre championship striker. Reminds me of Gary Madine..
I understand we are strapped for cash but surely there are players in Germany, Spain, Italy etc. that we can pick up for less than 2m that could be a more saleable asset in the future.
Dare i say it, but this doesnt look like a Brentford style purchase and they surely have to be a gold standard for what we are trying to achieve re: selling players for profit etc.
Don't quite get the 'we sold Smith so why buy this guy' argument. We sold Smith for a number of very good reasons - not least that he can barely get thrugh 90 mins and can't play twice in a few days. It also freed up cash for other buys/wages. We also sold him because his back to goal game was not awful, it was practically non-existent. Warbs did not sell him just because he's tall. Also, most strikers should do very well with how we play football, and maybe a bigger presence up front could realy help create space for Chair.
He also went as he asked to leave and wanted to start more games
A goal every two and a half games for Wigan, Barnsley and Rotherham, isn't too shabby. We should be able to provide more chances for him than any of them. So, for what I'd hope is a fairly short term, we could do a lot worse.
Is this lad really an upgrade on Matt Smith? Goal tally would suggest otherwise. It appears to be a very standard championship move and I am not sure his ceiling is any higher than a mediocre championship striker. Reminds me of Gary Madine..
I understand we are strapped for cash but surely there are players in Germany, Spain, Italy etc. that we can pick up for less than 2m that could be a more saleable asset in the future.
Dare i say it, but this doesnt look like a Brentford style purchase and they surely have to be a gold standard for what we are trying to achieve re: selling players for profit etc.
We've been a lower than mediocre Championship side for the last few years, so mediocre championship players should represent an improvement.
If that is so, how come we can command £4.7m for BOS? £2m will get you Furlong who I rate. Manning we shall get that min for him if not more.
I don't get why you would be surprised that Bright would be worth at least twice as much as Manning. (A) He is a forward player whereas Manning is perceived as a defender +£1m (B) He is an English National and Manning isn't +£1m (c) He is 2 years younger than Manning + £500 -750K
Difficult to make a comparison between Furlong and Manning. Furlong is good in the air, Manning isn't. Furlong is comfortable defending and going forward is a added bonus, Manning is the opposite. Manning is very good at set play, Furlong prefers to be on the end of it. Manning has nearly twice as many Championship games under his belt than Furlong. Furlong is English, Manning isn't. Finally, Manning has 11 months left on his current contract and is refusing to sign a new one, so anything above £2m would be a very welcome surprise
I don't get why you would be surprised that Bright would be worth at least twice as much as Manning. (A) He is a forward player whereas Manning is perceived as a defender +£1m (B) He is an English National and Manning isn't +£1m (c) He is 2 years younger than Manning + £500 -750K
Difficult to make a comparison between Furlong and Manning. Furlong is good in the air, Manning isn't. Furlong is comfortable defending and going forward is a added bonus, Manning is the opposite. Manning is very good at set play, Furlong prefers to be on the end of it. Manning has nearly twice as many Championship games under his belt than Furlong. Furlong is English, Manning isn't. Finally, Manning has 11 months left on his current contract and is refusing to sign a new one, so anything above £2m would be a very welcome surprise
Bright could link up with Nigeria, which would be a disaster for whoever buys him. So not sure his nationality is an advantage over Manning's.
Bright could link up with Nigeria, which would be a disaster for whoever buys him. So not sure his nationality is an advantage over Manning's.
Yes, I was thinking that one through about whether nationality is that much of a consideration and whether it pushes the price up of 2nd tier English players
In theory if you are a Championship club then having an "English" national means that there is probably less risk of them actually getting called up for international duty by England and therefore less risk of losing them through duty or injury sustained whilst on duty. It seems that over the last few years we have had a good few international players (Mass and Nakhi to name just a few ) who would be called up for their national teams regularly.
If we were to assume that our offer to Wigan was conditionally accepted unless a larger bid came in is there any time constraints that the administrators would need to adhere to before a new owner for Wigan be found ?
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