| European super league 15:28 - Apr 18 with 61940 views | qpr_1968 |
can anyone see it taking off.
talks of 6 clubs from the premier.
on sky news now. |  |
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| European super league on 20:22 - Apr 18 with 2717 views | MrSheen |
| European super league on 20:09 - Apr 18 by Wegerles_Stairs |
Without the likes of Bayern it looks pretty pathetic. Three of the English teams are Europa League giants. I hate what football has become as much as the next old git but this is a new nadir. Clubs like Ajax who won the European Cup three years in a row aren't in this 'super' league and Spurs are.  [Post edited 18 Apr 2021 20:10]
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Bayern will have to compete for players with Barca and City when they’re playing Anderlecht and Fenerbahce. Probably won’t go anywhere, just a ploy to prise more money out of UEFA.
There’s a Japanese investment company called SoftBank with billions to invest in new media, much of if from Arab Sovereign Wealth Funds. Apparently they have been hovering over football for some time, looking to make a splash. No conception of tradition or integrity, all about “content”.
PSG are in with the Qataris, it wouldn’t surprise me if Softbank’s Saudi and Emiraiti backers insisted they were excluded. [Post edited 18 Apr 2021 20:34]
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| European super league on 20:25 - Apr 18 with 2690 views | charmr |
Nothing to do with the teams and what country they reside in.
All about fans/customers outside of the UK | | | |
| European super league on 20:25 - Apr 18 with 2686 views | gazza1 |
It wont happen!!! | | | |
| European super league on 20:29 - Apr 18 with 2659 views | ManinBlack |
Best bit was at the end of Neville's comments about relegating United, Liverpool and Arsenal instead of Fulham on top of heavy fines and point deductions.
Money corrupted the game and when you have mega rich owners in other countries in control of clubs this is what happens. They have no affinity with us or this country, they own clubs like a plaything to get richer. The belief with the big clubs is they think people will only want to watch Man City v Chelsea and won't be interested in Leicester v Southampton.
I do scoff at the Premier league talking about open competition and other clubs climbing to the top when since 1992 the changes brought in have been to the detriment to most clubs ability to keep up with the so called big 6. |  | | |
| European super league on 20:30 - Apr 18 with 2652 views | daveB |
| European super league on 19:55 - Apr 18 by BrianMcCarthy |
So do I, Dave.
But ironies abound, all the same. |
Sky are the easy target for the evils of the game, they provide the money just as other broadcasters did in the 70's and 80's for live games.
It's always been about how that money is spent and it's been the clubs and club owners who have caused the most damage to football over the last 30 years
Football fans never help themselves though with regards tv companies, whenever games are shown on free to air tv such as the Champions League until a few years back or England games or the FA Cup you get people losing their shit saying the coverage is terrible and I wish it was on Sky. |  | | |
| European super league on 20:38 - Apr 18 with 2607 views | derbyhoop |
The clubs don't need fans in the grounds if they can keep hoovering up the TV money. But remember when City were in the 3rd tier and Chelsea ere playing in front of 8,000. Success isn't sustainable even for the biggest clubs.
Where do the likes of Leicester, who have won the PL in recent times, and this year's West Ham fit in to this European Super League. Especially if the likes of Bayern and PSG are not involved. |  |
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| European super league on 20:38 - Apr 18 with 2604 views | ted_hendrix |
| European super league on 19:45 - Apr 18 by QPRSteve |
Tottenham? Tottenham? fücks sake |
You have to remember that Tottenham have a cheese room, the only football club in the universe to have a cheese room.
'It includes the kind of attention to detail that offers a cheese room for clients to select their own specially sourced half-time cheeses.
The cheese room alone is more than enough to gain Tottenham Hotspur entry into the European Super League.
Cheese board, I'm selecting my very own specially sourced half-time cheeses. |  |
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| European super league on 20:44 - Apr 18 with 2571 views | BrianMcCarthy |
| European super league on 20:30 - Apr 18 by daveB |
Sky are the easy target for the evils of the game, they provide the money just as other broadcasters did in the 70's and 80's for live games.
It's always been about how that money is spent and it's been the clubs and club owners who have caused the most damage to football over the last 30 years
Football fans never help themselves though with regards tv companies, whenever games are shown on free to air tv such as the Champions League until a few years back or England games or the FA Cup you get people losing their shit saying the coverage is terrible and I wish it was on Sky. |
I think that's all perfectly fair, Dave, except that Sky did support (and in some ways facilitate) the original Greedy Football Breakaway in the shape of the Premier League. So any preaching, no matter how accurate on Sky about another Greedy Football Breakaway strikes me as ironic. |  |
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| European super league on 20:44 - Apr 18 with 2568 views | MrSheen |
Interesting precedent of a Packer-style breakaway in Colombia that was crushed by universal sanctions against the players in the 40s and 50s.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_Dorado_(Colombian_football)
England’s disastrous performance in the 1950 World Cup was blamed in part on bans against players who dared leave the English game in search of more than £10 a week, though other countries suffered more. What’s more extraordinary was that they went to Colombia during an era that even the locals called La Violencia, which gives you an idea of how bad it was. | | | |
| European super league on 20:47 - Apr 18 with 2552 views | TacticalR |
'The impetus for the breakaway league is thought to have come from the Real Madrid president, Florentino Pérez, although Liverpool’s John W Henry, Joel Glazer of Manchester United, the Arsenal owner, Stan Kroenke, and Andrea Agnelli of Juventus have been touted as potential vice-chairmen of the new competition, which would be financed by the US banking giant JP Morgan.'
Premier League condemns European super league after English clubs sign up
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2021/apr/18/five-english-clubs-sign-up-to-e |  |
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| European super league on 20:55 - Apr 18 with 2510 views | Northernr |
| European super league on 20:47 - Apr 18 by TacticalR |
'The impetus for the breakaway league is thought to have come from the Real Madrid president, Florentino Pérez, although Liverpool’s John W Henry, Joel Glazer of Manchester United, the Arsenal owner, Stan Kroenke, and Andrea Agnelli of Juventus have been touted as potential vice-chairmen of the new competition, which would be financed by the US banking giant JP Morgan.'
Premier League condemns European super league after English clubs sign up
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2021/apr/18/five-english-clubs-sign-up-to-e |
I find this idea that Arsenal and Tottenham have any business being associated with a league of European super powers hilarious. Alright lads, we've all had a drink. |  | | |
| European super league on 20:59 - Apr 18 with 2491 views | BrianMcCarthy |
Spurs.
Last League 1961
Last Cup 1991
Last Silverware of any kind - more than a decade.
In reply to Clive's post - apologies. [Post edited 18 Apr 2021 20:59]
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| European super league on 21:00 - Apr 18 with 2483 views | VancouverHoop |
I wonder where they'll get match officials from? I can't see FIFA and UEFA undermining their own competitions by allowing their own referees to moonlight for their competitors. | | | |
| European super league on 21:01 - Apr 18 with 2471 views | loftboy |
| European super league on 21:00 - Apr 18 by VancouverHoop |
I wonder where they'll get match officials from? I can't see FIFA and UEFA undermining their own competitions by allowing their own referees to moonlight for their competitors. |
No doubt the power of ££££ will persuade some to join in with the farce |  |
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| European super league on 21:03 - Apr 18 with 2461 views | digswellhoop |
if it does go ahead ban them from buying our players
remember where Harry kane EZE STARTED all lower league ban the super league no transfers from our leagues | | | |
| European super league on 21:08 - Apr 18 with 2445 views | paulparker |
It’s a given that the big clubs will go
But Spurs !!! Fcuking Spurs voting on this, this lot haven’t won a trophy since 2007 ? Haven’t won the league in over 50 years , hardly featured in the champions league in the last 20 years but they have a vote ?? WTF, seriously fcuk off Tottenham |  |
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| European super league on 21:10 - Apr 18 with 2433 views | RangersDave |
simple fact is, that if these 'big' 6 have signed, then i would sack them off immediately.
Deduct all their points for the season, and give an immediate 5 league relegation.
If they want to return, i'd start them at the bottom of the bottomest leagues under FFP constraints that limit their spend on players wages to £500 per week per player with no enhancements to that wage by any back door.
i'd limit crowds to each home game to the average for the league they are in, limit sponsorship to the average amount of the league they are in etc.
They would have to pay, but not play any high earners still on contract, and they would be made to cut squad sizes to non league sizes. high earners would count against the agreed wage spend under my FFP rules and they would be fined sh1t loads if they broke them.
so basically 'reset' them no non league status for as long as it takes for them to trim their teams and cash spend / income accordingly.
Feck em!
I bet the leagues clubs are thinking this is a chance to 'put things right', and all the livercityunitedhotspurenal fans can go and Fcuk themselves finding money to see their teams play away ever other week. |  |
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| European super league on 21:24 - Apr 18 with 2360 views | MrSheen |
| European super league on 21:10 - Apr 18 by RangersDave |
simple fact is, that if these 'big' 6 have signed, then i would sack them off immediately.
Deduct all their points for the season, and give an immediate 5 league relegation.
If they want to return, i'd start them at the bottom of the bottomest leagues under FFP constraints that limit their spend on players wages to £500 per week per player with no enhancements to that wage by any back door.
i'd limit crowds to each home game to the average for the league they are in, limit sponsorship to the average amount of the league they are in etc.
They would have to pay, but not play any high earners still on contract, and they would be made to cut squad sizes to non league sizes. high earners would count against the agreed wage spend under my FFP rules and they would be fined sh1t loads if they broke them.
so basically 'reset' them no non league status for as long as it takes for them to trim their teams and cash spend / income accordingly.
Feck em!
I bet the leagues clubs are thinking this is a chance to 'put things right', and all the livercityunitedhotspurenal fans can go and Fcuk themselves finding money to see their teams play away ever other week. |
Jeez Dave, can’t you remember the pride we felt in being part of the “Platinum Eight”, with revolving ad boards and everything? | | | |
| European super league on 21:30 - Apr 18 with 2334 views | MrSheen |
Minority of one perhaps, but I’d like to see a breakaway World Cup of 16 teams rather than the bloat and dross of 40-48 countries. | | | |
| European super league on 21:32 - Apr 18 with 2328 views | RangersDave |
didnt we turn into the tin pot 1? lol | |
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| European super league on 21:39 - Apr 18 with 2297 views | BrianMcCarthy |
| European super league on 21:30 - Apr 18 by MrSheen |
Minority of one perhaps, but I’d like to see a breakaway World Cup of 16 teams rather than the bloat and dross of 40-48 countries. |
Agree that 16 would be great, or 24 maybe, but "Breakaway" in practice means a move away from merit. Which would be wrong, no? | |
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| European super league on 21:52 - Apr 18 with 2227 views | MrSheen |
| European super league on 21:39 - Apr 18 by BrianMcCarthy |
Agree that 16 would be great, or 24 maybe, but "Breakaway" in practice means a move away from merit. Which would be wrong, no? |
True, but the way FIFA is structured as one member one vote encourages more snouts at the trough even if it ruins the end product. I thought the Nations League was going to be rubbish, but I feel like that’s the one to keep and throw away the rest.
It might be a different situation in Ireland, but qualifiers now for England are numbingly boring and an unwelcome disruption to the club season. I remember the sickening thrill of Italy v England in 97, Holland v England in 93, England v Italy or Poland in the 70s, all lost forever for the chance to watch Ukraine to take Switzerland to penalties again. [Post edited 18 Apr 2021 22:01]
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| European super league on 21:56 - Apr 18 with 2208 views | loftboy |
Has the announcement happened yet? | |
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| European super league on 21:57 - Apr 18 with 2199 views | stowmarketrange |
| European super league on 21:56 - Apr 18 by loftboy |
Has the announcement happened yet? |
No. |  | | |
| European super league on 22:01 - Apr 18 with 2183 views | denhamhoop2 |
| European super league on 21:39 - Apr 18 by BrianMcCarthy |
Agree that 16 would be great, or 24 maybe, but "Breakaway" in practice means a move away from merit. Which would be wrong, no? |
Well it's not really on merit alone thanks to regional qualification half of South America qualifies New Zealand with basically a bye into the final qualifying round versus a nearly equally poor team. Whereas there will be at least one or two useful European teams that miss out | | | |
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