| The Black Cats vs Jude the Cat Match Thread 15:11 - Mar 12 with 42378 views | Monkey_Roots |
Will we be Top Cat or just another sorry looking, well beaten pussy?
If this goes badly, Spaceman can come back…
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| The Black Cats vs Jude the Cat Match Thread on 19:04 - Mar 16 with 2985 views | mart_Goblin |
Feels a bit like the Begovic thread.
People are entitled to feel disappointed and say so if that’s how they feel.
Not read the whole thread but the majority . Not seen any abuse or anything said that’s out of order. Seen some criticism of a few players . Dont agree with some but people are entitled to say so.
Not sure that some claiming it’s a good point saw how bad Sunderland were. If they did then fair enough but there was a side with 12 first choice players missing and ready to be put out of their misery. They were slow and pedestrian…and what did we do . Joined them in their game of walking football.
That’s why some are frustrated . Because this was a match offering 3 points to us on a plate .
WE WONT GET ONE OF THESE CHANCES AGAIN.
On the positive side there have been some good points made and maybe tomorrow it will look like a decent point.
But you can disagree with people of course but you can’t shut people down just because what they are saying is critical of this team. Jesus they got us into this mess. [Post edited 16 Mar 19:09]
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| The Black Cats vs Jude the Cat Match Thread on 19:19 - Mar 16 with 2802 views | sdm1508 |
I was watching the game on TV so can only go by that but Dykes always arrives where the ball is after it has been there. Is his anticipation rubbish, the passes miss hit it is he running half arsed to where it's being played too. Cross in the box, arrives late, knocked down the line, arrives late. I personally would have taken him off at half time. When he can be partially bothered he is almost an asset to the team with his closing down, but I would rather he not close down and scored some goals |  | | |
| The Black Cats vs Jude the Cat Match Thread on 19:21 - Mar 16 with 2788 views | Red_Ranger |
Same people who said 'thats it, were definitely down' | | | |
| The Black Cats vs Jude the Cat Match Thread on 19:23 - Mar 16 with 2773 views | Watford_Ranger |
| The Black Cats vs Jude the Cat Match Thread on 17:46 - Mar 16 by stevec |
In terms of strikers we are League Two and that’s on a good day.
It’s testimony to the rest of the side that, despite that chronic handicap, we’re not fighting it out with Rotherham for last place.
Polter had me rolling about on the floor at the time, little did I know he was of Haaland proportions compared to what we started with this season. |
Don’t think Dykes is getting in many L2 teams today. Playing a team with no clean sheets for about 15 games and a load of defenders out and he might as well have not been there. | | | |
| The Black Cats vs Jude the Cat Match Thread on 19:24 - Mar 16 with 2763 views | traininvain |
| The Black Cats vs Jude the Cat Match Thread on 19:04 - Mar 16 by mart_Goblin |
Feels a bit like the Begovic thread.
People are entitled to feel disappointed and say so if that’s how they feel.
Not read the whole thread but the majority . Not seen any abuse or anything said that’s out of order. Seen some criticism of a few players . Dont agree with some but people are entitled to say so.
Not sure that some claiming it’s a good point saw how bad Sunderland were. If they did then fair enough but there was a side with 12 first choice players missing and ready to be put out of their misery. They were slow and pedestrian…and what did we do . Joined them in their game of walking football.
That’s why some are frustrated . Because this was a match offering 3 points to us on a plate .
WE WONT GET ONE OF THESE CHANCES AGAIN.
On the positive side there have been some good points made and maybe tomorrow it will look like a decent point.
But you can disagree with people of course but you can’t shut people down just because what they are saying is critical of this team. Jesus they got us into this mess. [Post edited 16 Mar 19:09]
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Understand the disappointment at not winning today but how can you be so sure that we won’t get one of these chances again?
We have three winnable games following the international break and another five games following those three. It’s too early to say whether today is one point gained or two points lost. |  | | |
| The Black Cats vs Jude the Cat Match Thread on 19:24 - Mar 16 with 2747 views | hubble |
Anyway, never mind all that, Monkey starts his match thread career with a decent point away at Sunderland. So, I vote he gets Brum at home. Agreed? |  |
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| The Black Cats vs Jude the Cat Match Thread on 19:29 - Mar 16 with 2683 views | GaryT |
| The Black Cats vs Jude the Cat Match Thread on 18:24 - Mar 16 by Burnleyhoop |
IMO we’re a decent striker from being a top 8 team. Would trade all 3 of our strikers for one half decent that has a bit of pace and can finish. Clueless and toothless up front |
Clueless and Toothless upfront, worth a try, can't be any worse than Dykes.
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| The Black Cats vs Jude the Cat Match Thread on 19:30 - Mar 16 with 2666 views | lassel |
| The Black Cats vs Jude the Cat Match Thread on 19:03 - Mar 16 by Antti_Heinola |
‘Easiest’ is a bit hyperbolic. |
I’m just not sure it is Antti.
I’d be shocked, albeit obviously delighted if we face another team this season as completely disinterested as Sunderland were today. It was the flattest of flat tracks and we still couldn’t capitalise. | | | |
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| The Black Cats vs Jude the Cat Match Thread on 19:40 - Mar 16 with 2589 views | mart_Goblin |
| The Black Cats vs Jude the Cat Match Thread on 19:24 - Mar 16 by traininvain |
Understand the disappointment at not winning today but how can you be so sure that we won’t get one of these chances again?
We have three winnable games following the international break and another five games following those three. It’s too early to say whether today is one point gained or two points lost. |
My point being that the 3 winnable games will be against teams scraping for their lives .
Sunderland were nowhere near that today.
They looked meek and so so lacking in confidence.
If we could just play with some tempo today then it would have been a huge 3 points .
The frustration is that we didn’t. | | | |
| The Black Cats vs Jude the Cat Match Thread on 19:57 - Mar 16 with 2514 views | traininvain |
| The Black Cats vs Jude the Cat Match Thread on 19:40 - Mar 16 by mart_Goblin |
My point being that the 3 winnable games will be against teams scraping for their lives .
Sunderland were nowhere near that today.
They looked meek and so so lacking in confidence.
If we could just play with some tempo today then it would have been a huge 3 points .
The frustration is that we didn’t. |
The point is that it’s the Championship and we’ve no idea if we’ll catch a team playing worse than Sunderland between now and the end of this season. I’d say it’s more likely than not but that’s just my opinion.
Sunderland were poor but desperate to avoid defeat and looked like a team set up to stop the rot rather than win. We seem to do better against teams that come out and try to play. Probably doesn’t bode well for the next three games so maybe you have a point! | | | |
| The Black Cats vs Jude the Cat Match Thread on 20:00 - Mar 16 with 2505 views | mart_Goblin |
| The Black Cats vs Jude the Cat Match Thread on 19:57 - Mar 16 by traininvain |
The point is that it’s the Championship and we’ve no idea if we’ll catch a team playing worse than Sunderland between now and the end of this season. I’d say it’s more likely than not but that’s just my opinion.
Sunderland were poor but desperate to avoid defeat and looked like a team set up to stop the rot rather than win. We seem to do better against teams that come out and try to play. Probably doesn’t bode well for the next three games so maybe you have a point! |
Ha ha.
What I do know is this isn’t very good for my mental health or my heart rate 🤣 | | | |
| The Black Cats vs Jude the Cat Match Thread on 20:12 - Mar 16 with 2409 views | Wegerles_Stairs |
| The Black Cats vs Jude the Cat Match Thread on 19:57 - Mar 16 by traininvain |
The point is that it’s the Championship and we’ve no idea if we’ll catch a team playing worse than Sunderland between now and the end of this season. I’d say it’s more likely than not but that’s just my opinion.
Sunderland were poor but desperate to avoid defeat and looked like a team set up to stop the rot rather than win. We seem to do better against teams that come out and try to play. Probably doesn’t bode well for the next three games so maybe you have a point! |
I'd wager Birmingham are playing every bit as bad. That result for them today is a shocker. No guarantees of course but games like Good Friday are what sort the men out from the boys. The important thing is that this is in our own hands now - we aren't relying on favours and can take a significant step to safety in the next few weeks. | | | |
| The Black Cats vs Jude the Cat Match Thread on 20:20 - Mar 16 with 2379 views | QPsyR |
| The Black Cats vs Jude the Cat Match Thread on 20:00 - Mar 16 by mart_Goblin |
Ha ha.
What I do know is this isn’t very good for my mental health or my heart rate 🤣 |
LOL Most things we love and care about aren't in any way whatsoever good for us and that's probably why we love n care about them
Well that's my theory anyway.
It was one of those where it was two points dropped but then still a good point | |
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| The Black Cats vs Jude the Cat Match Thread on 20:40 - Mar 16 with 2273 views | slmrstid |
I would describe it as a "what happens next result".
Get a good result in the next game (ie win), a point today looks OK. Get a bad result, and today looks bad.
Still out the bottom 3 for now, still in our hands, but still lots of work to do. |  | | |
| The Black Cats vs Jude the Cat Match Thread on 20:43 - Mar 16 with 2242 views | Stanisgod |
| The Black Cats vs Jude the Cat Match Thread on 17:11 - Mar 16 by joolsyp |
Was very worried about today’s round of games, we easily could have found ourselves back in the bottom 3 if results hadn’t gone our way. Pretty much as you were with 8 games left and we’re in the 40s (just). 3 wins and a draw or two from the last 8 should do it so for now it’s in our hands. In Marti we trust. |
He's losing my trust fast with this insistence on Dykes.
Sorry but you'd be better off just playing 2 10s. |  |
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| The Black Cats vs Jude the Cat Match Thread on 20:59 - Mar 16 with 2130 views | queensparker |
| The Black Cats vs Jude the Cat Match Thread on 20:43 - Mar 16 by Stanisgod |
He's losing my trust fast with this insistence on Dykes.
Sorry but you'd be better off just playing 2 10s. |
Dykes renaissance under Cifeuntes was playing behind the centre forward, where at least his occasional flick ons go to another player and he was putting in good work closing down and generally getting involved in the game.
As a lone forward chasing and holding up long balls he’s a total waste of time. Second to everything and can’t control it. |  | | |
| The Black Cats vs Jude the Cat Match Thread on 21:00 - Mar 16 with 2118 views | Watford_Ranger |
| The Black Cats vs Jude the Cat Match Thread on 20:43 - Mar 16 by Stanisgod |
He's losing my trust fast with this insistence on Dykes.
Sorry but you'd be better off just playing 2 10s. |
I get the theory. When Dykes is ‘on it’ (increasingly rarely) he’s the best of the three at getting the key players into the game. Those occasions are far too rare for a player supposedly in his prime and playing with Chair/Willock for years. The other two have their flaws for sure but the bloke has offered next to nothing, regularly, for ages now. | | | |
| The Black Cats vs Jude the Cat Match Thread on 21:20 - Mar 16 with 2009 views | Antti_Heinola |
| The Black Cats vs Jude the Cat Match Thread on 17:30 - Mar 16 by rbee |
True, but you look at our team with experienced Premier League players, plenty of attacking talent with Willock, Chair, Andersen and the strength and pace of Armstrong.
Marti must scratch his head and wonder, like the rest of us do, why aren't we very good!? |
Well under Marti we’re a mid table team. So he probably isn’t scratching his head that much.
They’re not prem players or they’d be playing in the… prem. |  |
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| The Black Cats vs Jude the Cat Match Thread on 21:48 - Mar 16 with 1895 views | rbee |
| The Black Cats vs Jude the Cat Match Thread on 20:43 - Mar 16 by Stanisgod |
He's losing my trust fast with this insistence on Dykes.
Sorry but you'd be better off just playing 2 10s. |
Dykes played well at Bristol and especially well at Leicester earning praise from most on here, so you can understand why Marti selected him today.
If Marti follows the recent trend then Frey will start against Birmingham. |  | | |
| The Black Cats vs Jude the Cat Match Thread on 21:48 - Mar 16 with 1893 views | Rangersw12 |
Just got back
First 10/15, Sunderland looked like us under Ainsworth really poor and didn't have a clue and game should have been won then.
Nothing really happened for the next 75 mins till Willock missed a sitter
Motm thought Dunne was decent but bar was pretty meh from everyone
Dykes awful as per usual
Missed opportunity and 2 points dropped [Post edited 16 Mar 21:49]
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| The Black Cats vs Jude the Cat Match Thread on 21:57 - Mar 16 with 1816 views | dmm |
| The Black Cats vs Jude the Cat Match Thread on 21:48 - Mar 16 by rbee |
Dykes played well at Bristol and especially well at Leicester earning praise from most on here, so you can understand why Marti selected him today.
If Marti follows the recent trend then Frey will start against Birmingham. |
In his offy post match interview, Cifuentes said when we're at home he wants Frey to play because he's "...important inside the box." |  | | |
| The Black Cats vs Jude the Cat Match Thread on 22:03 - Mar 16 with 1781 views | jtuck |
Mr Cifuentes told our official interviewer in his first answer after the game that he sees this as 2 points dropped. Interviewer then asks: 'do you see game as 2 points dropped?' and he confirms that is his view. Also says we did not create enough chances. Level-headed and serious and striking same note as many posters on this thread. | |
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| The Black Cats vs Jude the Cat Match Thread on 22:07 - Mar 16 with 1743 views | perpignanR |
| The Black Cats vs Jude the Cat Match Thread on 19:23 - Mar 16 by Watford_Ranger |
Don’t think Dykes is getting in many L2 teams today. Playing a team with no clean sheets for about 15 games and a load of defenders out and he might as well have not been there. |
Conor Washington without the talent. | | | |
| The Black Cats vs Jude the Cat Match Thread on 22:38 - Mar 16 with 1624 views | karlski |
| The Black Cats vs Jude the Cat Match Thread on 22:03 - Mar 16 by jtuck |
Mr Cifuentes told our official interviewer in his first answer after the game that he sees this as 2 points dropped. Interviewer then asks: 'do you see game as 2 points dropped?' and he confirms that is his view. Also says we did not create enough chances. Level-headed and serious and striking same note as many posters on this thread. |
I think that’s about right. He also talked about doing what we wanted to do, which was limiting them to no shots for a long time. For me, against a side on a 6 match losing skid with almost a whole first team out, the emphasis should have been on how many shots can we create rather than what can we limit them to. I feel the game was there for the taking.
My opinion is nowhere near as valid as Marti’s though, and I generally view him as a messiah for us even being in with a (decent) shout of staying up right now. But that’s how I saw it. Having said that, if Willock scores from Armstrong’s pull back then it’s the perfect away performance. | | | |
| The Black Cats vs Jude the Cat Match Thread on 22:56 - Mar 16 with 1556 views | colinallcars |
When I win the Euromillions next week I think I'll buy out Sunderland FC and rename the ground the Stadium Of Light Ale. |  | | |
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