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What we have seen over this season is leadership from him, constantly talking, demanding from and off his team mates. I've said before one of the key differences is where he is being played he has the game in front of him and his brain and reading of the game gives him that extra yard, his skills give him that extra time. His defensive work is getting better and better whether it be nicking balls, or blocks and clearances in the box.
I have to say that excluding my outnumbered lookie Likeee nonsense I've posted previously, I've always wanted him to do well. But also he had something but it just wasn't happening
Madsen opened up at a pre-season interview that it was a very difficult first season for him and that he was going all out to improve. Look at him now, playing some great stuff, controlling and much stronger. Well done Nico you have certainly improved and delivered what you said you would.
I'm not suggesting Madsen is better than Ale Faurlin, but if you compare their records in the Championship for us Madsen is well ahead on goal involvements per game.
Faurlin, P-118, G-4, A-14 - 18 goal involvements in 118 games, roughly 1 every 6.5 games
Madsen P-61, G-6, A-9 - 15 goal involvements in 61 games, roughly 1 every 4 games
Devil's advocate. Of his 6 goals, how many penalties - 3?
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Devil's advocate. Of his 6 goals, how many penalties - 3?
Fair point.
But even if you take out the penalties his numbers compare favourably to Faurlin's.
Shame we don't get more penalties. Especially with all these little wingers in the squad. Don Howe or Neal Warnock would have had them attacking the box and committing defenders at every opportunity.
I think he is our best player.watching him week in week out you begin to notice the small things.The amount of ball winning he does.He reads the game well.Quite a number of last ditch tackles.He has the most assists in the club.Good decision making on the ball -I rate him slightly higher than Chair.
The point about Bannin is a good one though-so needs to improve!!!
I been very critical of Madsen due to the price we paid & his abysmal 1st season, which but for Morgan stepping up and a very weak division could have seen us relegated, as we spent maybe half our meagre budget on his fee and he didnt merit a starting place in a very average championship squad,
I believe, rightly or wrongly, some on this Forum are going way over board as I'm yet to see him 'run or dominate a full 90 minutes', as opposed to have good 15 minute spells or an excellent whole half as he did in 1st Half Half v Wrexham,
Either they are seeing something I am not, or the bar was set so low in that first season the transition is generating the hyperbole,
Madsen played much better in the 1st Half versus Wrexham that yesterday but we lost, however, the whole team were excellent yesterday, we won and he did two things which I see as real positives and maybe those hyping him could be proved right:
1) Assist: - decent pacy cross but left it all to do for Kone as ball was bobbling & Kone came up with a bit of magic, but Madsen's movement was good as he was attacking the space and inter-changing well with Vale
2) Goal :- even I wanted to see that ball drop to Madsen (or Vale) but the fact Madsen was attacking from the edge of the box was a real positive and something we have not done for so long.
Ironic Frank Lampard made a career doing what Madsen did for that 2nd goal yesterday.
As I stated before, his quality is not in question; it's his capacity to get up and down from box to box, all game and every game, that is the problem. Last season he played 8, where it was a massive problem and hence Marti dropped him and results improved.
This season JS did a master manager move and moved him to 6 where he was not required to run back as he's already back in defence. This has meant he can play us out from the back, which allows us to break the press.
Against Cov, he managed to get forward, and with his talent, QPR can beat anyone in the Champ. But against Oxford, Hayden and Madsen both were unable to get up and down the pitch quickly enough, making the worst team in the Champ look difficult to beat, which they are not.
For Madsen to do this, he must run run run tro get up and down the pitch. If he does that every game, then we shall win those matches for sure with his talent.
I been very critical of Madsen due to the price we paid & his abysmal 1st season, which but for Morgan stepping up and a very weak division could have seen us relegated, as we spent maybe half our meagre budget on his fee and he didnt merit a starting place in a very average championship squad,
I believe, rightly or wrongly, some on this Forum are going way over board as I'm yet to see him 'run or dominate a full 90 minutes', as opposed to have good 15 minute spells or an excellent whole half as he did in 1st Half Half v Wrexham,
Either they are seeing something I am not, or the bar was set so low in that first season the transition is generating the hyperbole,
Madsen played much better in the 1st Half versus Wrexham that yesterday but we lost, however, the whole team were excellent yesterday, we won and he did two things which I see as real positives and maybe those hyping him could be proved right:
1) Assist: - decent pacy cross but left it all to do for Kone as ball was bobbling & Kone came up with a bit of magic, but Madsen's movement was good as he was attacking the space and inter-changing well with Vale
2) Goal :- even I wanted to see that ball drop to Madsen (or Vale) but the fact Madsen was attacking from the edge of the box was a real positive and something we have not done for so long.
Ironic Frank Lampard made a career doing what Madsen did for that 2nd goal yesterday.
I think you're wrong but my opinion is no more important than yours. I think we'd be a much worse side without him in it. If he's fit (which he has been all season) he plays. The manager knows he's our key man, the players know he's our key man otherwise they wouldn't look to get him the ball whenever possible and the majority of fans knows it. Hopefully he'll win you over before the end of the season.
I been very critical of Madsen due to the price we paid & his abysmal 1st season, which but for Morgan stepping up and a very weak division could have seen us relegated, as we spent maybe half our meagre budget on his fee and he didnt merit a starting place in a very average championship squad,
I believe, rightly or wrongly, some on this Forum are going way over board as I'm yet to see him 'run or dominate a full 90 minutes', as opposed to have good 15 minute spells or an excellent whole half as he did in 1st Half Half v Wrexham,
Either they are seeing something I am not, or the bar was set so low in that first season the transition is generating the hyperbole,
Madsen played much better in the 1st Half versus Wrexham that yesterday but we lost, however, the whole team were excellent yesterday, we won and he did two things which I see as real positives and maybe those hyping him could be proved right:
1) Assist: - decent pacy cross but left it all to do for Kone as ball was bobbling & Kone came up with a bit of magic, but Madsen's movement was good as he was attacking the space and inter-changing well with Vale
2) Goal :- even I wanted to see that ball drop to Madsen (or Vale) but the fact Madsen was attacking from the edge of the box was a real positive and something we have not done for so long.
Ironic Frank Lampard made a career doing what Madsen did for that 2nd goal yesterday.
On point 1)
Kone said in the post match interview that the cross was 'perfect' for him, his words, not mine
As I stated before, his quality is not in question; it's his capacity to get up and down from box to box, all game and every game, that is the problem. Last season he played 8, where it was a massive problem and hence Marti dropped him and results improved.
This season JS did a master manager move and moved him to 6 where he was not required to run back as he's already back in defence. This has meant he can play us out from the back, which allows us to break the press.
Against Cov, he managed to get forward, and with his talent, QPR can beat anyone in the Champ. But against Oxford, Hayden and Madsen both were unable to get up and down the pitch quickly enough, making the worst team in the Champ look difficult to beat, which they are not.
For Madsen to do this, he must run run run tro get up and down the pitch. If he does that every game, then we shall win those matches for sure with his talent.
You’re missing the main point.
442 doesn’t favour him.
In a 4231 all the issues you’re talking about are pretty much negated.
I think you're wrong but my opinion is no more important than yours. I think we'd be a much worse side without him in it. If he's fit (which he has been all season) he plays. The manager knows he's our key man, the players know he's our key man otherwise they wouldn't look to get him the ball whenever possible and the majority of fans knows it. Hopefully he'll win you over before the end of the season.
If he can consistently put together 90 minutes like the 1st Half 45 minutes against Wrexham that will transform us into a proper top half side and he'll have justified his fee and some,
And even those still not totally won over, like myself, will be proved wrong and gladly so.
Kone said in the post match interview that the cross was 'perfect' for him, his words, not mine
Fair play to Kone for saying that, it was a cross fired in so gave him something to attack, which is what all Centre Forwards want as gives him something to attack,
If you watch it Kone still had so much to do and I re-watched it as I could'nt work out live how Kone converted it,
What he did was so good as ball was bobbling (on our pitch its bound to!) but Kone used that to his advantage and jumped off his his left foot and flicked it with his right, probably only option he had and a brilliant finish.
Fair play to Kone for saying that, it was a cross fired in so gave him something to attack, which is what all Centre Forwards want as gives him something to attack,
If you watch it Kone still had so much to do and I re-watched it as I could'nt work out live how Kone converted it,
What he did was so good as ball was bobbling (on our pitch its bound to!) but Kone used that to his advantage and jumped off his his left foot and flicked it with his right, probably only option he had and a brilliant finish.
It was first time cross too. I think defender was expecting him to take a touch. We haven’t really had a player, other than Chair, who can pass like that.
It was first time cross too. I think defender was expecting him to take a touch. We haven’t really had a player, other than Chair, who can pass like that.
Just watched the highlights. From Bennie to Vale to Madsen to Kone it was four touches. Lovely stuff.
Just watched the highlights. From Bennie to Vale to Madsen to Kone it was four touches. Lovely stuff.
Picking up on that Streatham, I said in a another post, Kone is criticised for being slow, but he was on the end of the cross and it was a fast break, and as you say sublime one touch football
Fair play to Kone for saying that, it was a cross fired in so gave him something to attack, which is what all Centre Forwards want as gives him something to attack,
If you watch it Kone still had so much to do and I re-watched it as I could'nt work out live how Kone converted it,
What he did was so good as ball was bobbling (on our pitch its bound to!) but Kone used that to his advantage and jumped off his his left foot and flicked it with his right, probably only option he had and a brilliant finish.
It was a perfect cross in that it went to his feet with pace, he had to adapt with a brilliant piece of skill, but Kones point was that he played the ball as he wanted it, just as he went across his man.
If you remember in the first half RND fizzed a cross for Kone and it was more of a typical placement, in front of him, but with the angle he could only direct it near post and it went into the side netting.
Not only is it about the finish, but I love from the interview that Kone said they've been working on that run across and in front of the CB. It shows clear development for a young striker with lots still to learn - something a few of his recent critics will do well to remember!
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