| Richard Kone 21:24 - Mar 8 with 6468 views | 1JD |
Getting a free ride this season.
Hold up play is sometimes good, but mostly sh1t.
Slow as a slug. Half arsed jumps for headers.
A rather measly 7 goals in 34 games (1 goal every 4.8 games). Charlie Kelman 5 goals in 26 (1 goal in 5.2 games).
No better than Dykes. Who himself was piss poor, but still scored 12 in his first season. |  | | |  |
| Richard Kone on 09:23 - Mar 9 with 1713 views | WadR |
Excellent layoff for Hayden in the second half at 1-0, that Hayden dallied over and wasted. A really good first time layoff in the first half that was then squandered by a teammate.
I can sometimes be a bit frustrated by his pressing but Boro were playing 3 at the back and then had 2 excellent central midfielders ahead of them and loads of constant movement around them. Pretty thankless task as a lone striker to do the doggy work.
He has flaws in his game but in terms of quality or effort, I think he's one of the last players I'd be calling out from that stating line up yesterday. | | | |
| Richard Kone on 09:27 - Mar 9 with 1706 views | daveB |
He was poor yesterday but he's not exactly got much to work with at the moment |  | | |
| Richard Kone on 09:38 - Mar 9 with 1659 views | BAWHoops |
He's 22, first season at this level and on 7 goals. He's not the issue and will likely win Young Player of the Season |  |
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| Richard Kone on 09:39 - Mar 9 with 1655 views | Blue_Castello |
| Richard Kone on 06:37 - Mar 9 by Malintabuk |
I try not to post on here after a game like yesterday... its a wonder I post at all as all our games are like yesterday...
In 13 days I have shipped the best part of 600 sovs watching this shower of sh!te...and possibly a day and a half of travelling and actually watching, and at my age that is serious time wasted... and it was wasted
I said on another thread that of all the injuries we have Madsen is going to affect us the most and since then in 3 games (counting Southampton) we have shipped 10 goals and not scored one.
I was expecting the usual backlash... but I could not believe this thread... someone giving Kone a tug...
To the OP have you been to any of these games last 3 games, or any before ? We are in serious danger of ruining this boys career!! And I'm not exaggerating in that... we are flogging him to death
I was watching him Saturday and I'm genuinely worried for him... he runs and puts himself about, as said on here without Madsen our attacking plan is lump it up and off you go Richard... and that is it.... he as no service, no support .... nothing, but the lad still tries and still puts himself about...
I have honestly come to the stage where I don't want to go anymore.. Birmingham/ Leicester absolutely no chance ...
If you honestly think the answer is Kone is no good, you are not asking the right question sorry |
Great post I am absolutely baffled how anybody could possibly pick Kone out after yesterdays performance, he worked his socks off and put in a great shift again bearing in mind how little of the ball we had and the poor service he was given time and again, he was our MOM from a poor display.
We said walking to the game is this the game where Kone gets his injury like all the rest, there's been no sensible squad rotation this season, a few months ago we had a fit squad and could of rested players but that option was not chosen, were now in a position where Kone has to start to give us any chance in a match, the injury to Madsen and the stupidity of sending Field out on loan has left us clutching at straws.
PS ....The other main point about yesterday's game was the fitness of Boros team compared to ours, it was on another level, maybe if we sort that out we will start to compete better. [Post edited 9 Mar 9:52]
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| Richard Kone on 09:40 - Mar 9 with 1643 views | TheChef |
| Richard Kone on 09:39 - Mar 9 by Blue_Castello |
Great post I am absolutely baffled how anybody could possibly pick Kone out after yesterdays performance, he worked his socks off and put in a great shift again bearing in mind how little of the ball we had and the poor service he was given time and again, he was our MOM from a poor display.
We said walking to the game is this the game where Kone gets his injury like all the rest, there's been no sensible squad rotation this season, a few months ago we had a fit squad and could of rested players but that option was not chosen, were now in a position where Kone has to start to give us any chance in a match, the injury to Madsen and the stupidity of sending Field out on loan has left us clutching at straws.
PS ....The other main point about yesterday's game was the fitness of Boros team compared to ours, it was on another level, maybe if we sort that out we will start to compete better. [Post edited 9 Mar 9:52]
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If Kone keeps starting (since we have no other options) it does feel like he'll get injured this week, just to put the tin lid on everything. |  |
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| Richard Kone on 10:23 - Mar 9 with 1544 views | Watford_Ranger |
| Richard Kone on 09:40 - Mar 9 by TheChef |
If Kone keeps starting (since we have no other options) it does feel like he'll get injured this week, just to put the tin lid on everything. |
Give Kolli the first hour on Wednesday. Not that he’s been any good recently but he’s fresh and presumably fit. Feels a ticking time bomb à la Burrell. | | | |
| Richard Kone on 10:25 - Mar 9 with 1533 views | Rangersw12 |
Kone is being run into the ground because once again we have no other fit forwards
Kone wasn't great yesterday but he isn't the issue nor has been an issue all season | | | |
| Richard Kone on 10:49 - Mar 9 with 1465 views | johnhoop |
| Richard Kone on 10:25 - Mar 9 by Rangersw12 |
Kone is being run into the ground because once again we have no other fit forwards
Kone wasn't great yesterday but he isn't the issue nor has been an issue all season |
I think supporters deserve to know the actual reason why the player who was obviously brought in to take the load off Kone has mysteriously disappeared into another dimension having supposedly been injured shortly after he arrived. | | | |
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| Richard Kone on 10:57 - Mar 9 with 1436 views | numptydumpty |
Some threads truly are out of touch with reality.
I may have started one or two myself over the years.
But Kone, the guy is a workhorse, practically been our only near ever present and has been our only centre forward since the loss of Burrell. The last home game, his touch and control was great and he had a brilliant game, I felt.
He doesnt hide like a lot of our recent strikers have done and his finishing at times is excellent. Ok. At times, the ball doesn't stick. If it did all the time, he would not be with ourselves.
And dont know what level of football 1JD, you have ever played, but the guy is only 22 still, and two seasons ago, he was playing non league level eight, so the standard of football, he has progressed up the chain in such a short period of time is admirable, and he has not looked out of place at this level.
The guy was homeless in a backward third world country and has worked his b*tt off to achieve his dream.
He has hunger and desire to do well and is learning all the time, and for me is one of the few players, we have here, who could improve further and be a very important player for the next couple of seasons hopefully.
Along with Madsen and Burrell, he is one of our success stories this season. And one of the few here, that we could potentially make a decent profit on also.
1JD, you picked up on his one weakness, which at times, sometimes he does not have also. He is available every week - am expecting him to be the next one on the treatment table myself - but currently he is battling through and our only reliable outlet at top.
None of our so called creative players are providing any chances for him currently also.
Op, if you think Kone is the problem currently, you are living in some alternate universe, that you are living on alone !!!!!!! |  |
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| Richard Kone on 22:07 - Mar 11 with 1140 views | 1JD |
Bump. Another nothing game from Kone.
Hold up play is nowhere near good enough, been evident all season. Struggles in the number 9 role despite the hope that was what he was/is better at.
Fails to retain the ball and get the side up the pitch. A far bigger problem than most fans realise. | | | |
| Richard Kone on 22:10 - Mar 11 with 1103 views | StreathamRanger |
Starting to see your point. Can't believe I'm saying this but I think Dykes might do a better job than Kone is at the moment. | | | |
| (No subject) (n/t) on 22:12 - Mar 11 with 1077 views | qprmeath21 |
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| Richard Kone on 22:53 - Mar 11 with 928 views | Markofthegrove |
Thought he was mega at Hull and I am far from giving up on him, but he has been poor last few games. |  | | |
| Richard Kone on 09:15 - Mar 12 with 713 views | RBlock |
The lad is absolutely knackered and has looked like he's playing through an injury at times. He's been run into the ground, playing 90 minutes most weeks, as a result of injuries to Burrell/Obikwu and Frey being jettisoned. Compare his performances now with those a few months back when he was a bit fresher - chalk and cheese. This isn't on Kone - this is on how he's been played. |  | | |
| Richard Kone on 09:37 - Mar 12 with 662 views | numptydumpty |
| Richard Kone on 09:15 - Mar 12 by RBlock |
The lad is absolutely knackered and has looked like he's playing through an injury at times. He's been run into the ground, playing 90 minutes most weeks, as a result of injuries to Burrell/Obikwu and Frey being jettisoned. Compare his performances now with those a few months back when he was a bit fresher - chalk and cheese. This isn't on Kone - this is on how he's been played. |
100% this. | |
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| Richard Kone on 09:59 - Mar 12 with 628 views | 1JD |
| Richard Kone on 09:15 - Mar 12 by RBlock |
The lad is absolutely knackered and has looked like he's playing through an injury at times. He's been run into the ground, playing 90 minutes most weeks, as a result of injuries to Burrell/Obikwu and Frey being jettisoned. Compare his performances now with those a few months back when he was a bit fresher - chalk and cheese. This isn't on Kone - this is on how he's been played. |
None of this excuses his erratic first touch and decidedly average hold up game. It’s been evident all season long.
Sometimes he brings it down and finds a team mate, but just as equally he gives it away.
It’s not been good enough for some time, and is a big reason why this side cannot retain possession.
He is a usual finisher, that is his key strength, but he lacks in other parts of the hold up striker game.
We’ll also see how many goals he actually gets, because 7 isn’t exactly a great return right now. | | | |
| Richard Kone on 10:11 - Mar 12 with 599 views | TheChef |
| Richard Kone on 09:59 - Mar 12 by 1JD |
None of this excuses his erratic first touch and decidedly average hold up game. It’s been evident all season long.
Sometimes he brings it down and finds a team mate, but just as equally he gives it away.
It’s not been good enough for some time, and is a big reason why this side cannot retain possession.
He is a usual finisher, that is his key strength, but he lacks in other parts of the hold up striker game.
We’ll also see how many goals he actually gets, because 7 isn’t exactly a great return right now. |
He's been good for us and he will come good again.
He's not been great but then who has of late? His first season in the Championship and this is about as tough as it get when you're in a team playing as badly as this one.
For a start he's getting fck all service. One moment last night RND has the ball, Kone makes his run ahead of his man looking for an early ball, instead RND carries on and his cross inevitably fails to find any QPR player (rinse and repeat).
He's also badly missing Burrell, as we all are. | |
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| Richard Kone on 13:56 - Mar 12 with 517 views | 1JD |
| Richard Kone on 10:11 - Mar 12 by TheChef |
He's been good for us and he will come good again.
He's not been great but then who has of late? His first season in the Championship and this is about as tough as it get when you're in a team playing as badly as this one.
For a start he's getting fck all service. One moment last night RND has the ball, Kone makes his run ahead of his man looking for an early ball, instead RND carries on and his cross inevitably fails to find any QPR player (rinse and repeat).
He's also badly missing Burrell, as we all are. |
He’s scored 7 goals this season despite being a virtual ever present. His hold up game is poor.
He will be lucky to hit 10 goals. Even Lyndon Dykes hit 12 goals in his first season at this level.
Whilst there is potential no doubt, he’s also vastly over rated by many QPR fans, probably due to his initial purple patch in front of goal, where everyone went hot and heavy. | | | |
| Richard Kone on 15:12 - Mar 12 with 466 views | TheChef |
| Richard Kone on 13:56 - Mar 12 by 1JD |
He’s scored 7 goals this season despite being a virtual ever present. His hold up game is poor.
He will be lucky to hit 10 goals. Even Lyndon Dykes hit 12 goals in his first season at this level.
Whilst there is potential no doubt, he’s also vastly over rated by many QPR fans, probably due to his initial purple patch in front of goal, where everyone went hot and heavy. |
OK we get it, you don't rate him.
We'll agree to disagree then. | |
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| Richard Kone on 19:11 - Mar 12 with 371 views | 1JD |
| Richard Kone on 15:12 - Mar 12 by TheChef |
OK we get it, you don't rate him.
We'll agree to disagree then. |
That’s a brush-off. I’m not just ‘not rating him’, you’re not engaging with the points I made.
Even if you have the opinion that you think Kone is good at holding the ball up - the data says otherwise.
And he’s on 7 goals, with finishing said to be his key skill, but likely to finish below Dykes’ first season total of 12 goals.
Lastly, the frustration with Kone isn’t exactly a fringe view among fans at games, which is why I raised it here. | | | |
| Richard Kone on 19:16 - Mar 12 with 360 views | Watford_Ranger |
| Richard Kone on 19:11 - Mar 12 by 1JD |
That’s a brush-off. I’m not just ‘not rating him’, you’re not engaging with the points I made.
Even if you have the opinion that you think Kone is good at holding the ball up - the data says otherwise.
And he’s on 7 goals, with finishing said to be his key skill, but likely to finish below Dykes’ first season total of 12 goals.
Lastly, the frustration with Kone isn’t exactly a fringe view among fans at games, which is why I raised it here. |
I would’ve said amongst the ‘hardcore’ which I don’t count myself amongst any more but speak to people who very much are, he’s quite popular. Don’t hear him getting nearly as much flak as certain players away from home even when the team in general is dire. | | | |
| Richard Kone on 19:18 - Mar 12 with 357 views | 1JD |
| Richard Kone on 19:16 - Mar 12 by Watford_Ranger |
I would’ve said amongst the ‘hardcore’ which I don’t count myself amongst any more but speak to people who very much are, he’s quite popular. Don’t hear him getting nearly as much flak as certain players away from home even when the team in general is dire. |
He is increasingly splitting opinion at games. I’ve sat in both R block and South Africa, and it’s on the rise.
Twitter (yeah not a great barometer, for what it’s worth) is also heavily split. Some massively for, some far from convinced. | | | |
| Richard Kone on 19:49 - Mar 12 with 305 views | Mick_S |
| Richard Kone on 19:18 - Mar 12 by 1JD |
He is increasingly splitting opinion at games. I’ve sat in both R block and South Africa, and it’s on the rise.
Twitter (yeah not a great barometer, for what it’s worth) is also heavily split. Some massively for, some far from convinced. |
I get the opinion split, but the bloke is having a go, unlike several others. I felt for him last night - of course the first touch can be an issue, but he had begger all options so many times against Brum.
Playing on his jack up front and waiting for someone to amble up in support must be a bit draining.
I think we have a decent player on our hands. He needs help. |  |
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| Richard Kone on 20:10 - Mar 12 with 286 views | TK1 |
On today's excellent West London Sport, it was interesting to hear David Mc say that a "year two Richard Kone could well score 20 goals" and that even though he's younger than Cook or Dunne, he should be part of a leadership group.
I think this career path, while not guaranteed, is more likely than Lyndon Dykes's.
Dykes came to QPR when he was 25 having never hit double figures in a season in three seasons in the weak Scottish Championship nor his one season in the Scots Prem. Since then, he has only once hit double figures, for us, in 2020. During his 25 appearances for the free-scoring L1 title winners, he scored once.
Lyndon Dykes is now 30. Richard Kone is 22.
This is Richard Kone's third season as a professional footballer. In his second season, playing for Wycombe in L1, he scored 18 goals from 40 games (the same season Dykes scored once for a better team in 25).
Let's revisit their careers when Kone is 30. But if Dykes was really as good as Kone is now while playing 40 games and scoring 4 times for Livingstone at the same age then, wow. | | | |
| Richard Kone on 20:20 - Mar 12 with 265 views | 1JD |
| Richard Kone on 20:10 - Mar 12 by TK1 |
On today's excellent West London Sport, it was interesting to hear David Mc say that a "year two Richard Kone could well score 20 goals" and that even though he's younger than Cook or Dunne, he should be part of a leadership group.
I think this career path, while not guaranteed, is more likely than Lyndon Dykes's.
Dykes came to QPR when he was 25 having never hit double figures in a season in three seasons in the weak Scottish Championship nor his one season in the Scots Prem. Since then, he has only once hit double figures, for us, in 2020. During his 25 appearances for the free-scoring L1 title winners, he scored once.
Lyndon Dykes is now 30. Richard Kone is 22.
This is Richard Kone's third season as a professional footballer. In his second season, playing for Wycombe in L1, he scored 18 goals from 40 games (the same season Dykes scored once for a better team in 25).
Let's revisit their careers when Kone is 30. But if Dykes was really as good as Kone is now while playing 40 games and scoring 4 times for Livingstone at the same age then, wow. |
Lyndon Dykes - player I did not rate to be clear - was 24 when he signed for QPR. He was allegedly a hold up striker, as much as allegedly Richard Kone is.
It is well within reason to compare Richard Kone at 22 with Lyndon Dykes first season at 24.
For all this talk that Kone is a great finisher and striker, the data (goals) is not backing it up.
Worth repeating that Dykes got 12 goals in his first season at this level. Kone currently has 7, and may not even get double figures.
Next season is a huge one for Kone, as he will have to improve, the good news is age is on his side. And hopefully it’s in the Championship. | | | |
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