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Ashes thread 18:40 - Oct 9 with 68131 viewsBlackCrowe

Kicks off next month with the news that Cummins is likely out of the first test and possibly most/all of the series. That helps.

Poll: Kitchen threads or polls?

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Ashes thread on 09:42 - Dec 21 with 779 viewsted_hendrix

Just a big whimper really, usual claptrap after the Inevitable defeat.

My Father had a profound influence on me, he was a lunatic.

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Ashes thread on 12:06 - Dec 21 with 646 viewseastside_r

It pains me to say this, but this victory for Australia is good for cricket; good for test cricket.

I can only hope that the ECB learn the lessons from this disaster.

Money on 5-0 anyone?
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Ashes thread on 13:30 - Dec 21 with 584 viewsSuperhoops2808

Ashes thread on 12:06 - Dec 21 by eastside_r

It pains me to say this, but this victory for Australia is good for cricket; good for test cricket.

I can only hope that the ECB learn the lessons from this disaster.

Money on 5-0 anyone?


I respect you as a poster Eastside, but you are living in cloud cuckoo land if you think the ECB will learn lessons from this. They didn't 4 years ago and they wont now - They are pressing ahead with relegating Red Ball cricket to the side lines. As mentioned above we cant produce spinners due to the time of year we play 4 day cricket and as I mentioned above most of the seamers that play in county cricket here are overseas players

And someone else suggested that test cricket is not important to English fans, I disagree, they will always turn out no matter who is playing in my opinion

Interesting stat, and even this series I have criticised him but apart from Root, only Crawley was the other batsman to average over 35 - Not bad considering he had a pair in the first test
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Ashes thread on 21:04 - Dec 21 with 438 viewseastside_r

Ashes thread on 13:30 - Dec 21 by Superhoops2808

I respect you as a poster Eastside, but you are living in cloud cuckoo land if you think the ECB will learn lessons from this. They didn't 4 years ago and they wont now - They are pressing ahead with relegating Red Ball cricket to the side lines. As mentioned above we cant produce spinners due to the time of year we play 4 day cricket and as I mentioned above most of the seamers that play in county cricket here are overseas players

And someone else suggested that test cricket is not important to English fans, I disagree, they will always turn out no matter who is playing in my opinion

Interesting stat, and even this series I have criticised him but apart from Root, only Crawley was the other batsman to average over 35 - Not bad considering he had a pair in the first test


I did say ‘hope’ not expect.
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Ashes thread on 22:35 - Dec 21 with 352 viewsSydneyRs

Ashes thread on 13:30 - Dec 21 by Superhoops2808

I respect you as a poster Eastside, but you are living in cloud cuckoo land if you think the ECB will learn lessons from this. They didn't 4 years ago and they wont now - They are pressing ahead with relegating Red Ball cricket to the side lines. As mentioned above we cant produce spinners due to the time of year we play 4 day cricket and as I mentioned above most of the seamers that play in county cricket here are overseas players

And someone else suggested that test cricket is not important to English fans, I disagree, they will always turn out no matter who is playing in my opinion

Interesting stat, and even this series I have criticised him but apart from Root, only Crawley was the other batsman to average over 35 - Not bad considering he had a pair in the first test


Australia is much more into cricket than England. Its the closest thing they have to a national sport. They don't have an all dominant sport like football, which struggles here. Some states like rugby league, others prefer Aussie rules, but all are into cricket. Only India/Pakistan would really rival them for level of interest.

They're also obsessed with beating England at anything, but especially cricket. We just don't care about them in the same way, despite it always being fun when we do beat them.

Cricket in England is very middle/upper class whereas here its much more the people's sport and what you might call the working class are very into it, whereas that demographic in England is all about football. I don't really ever see that changing either.

England's biggest ground is Lords which I think holds 30k? Every ground Australia is using in this series is far, far bigger than that and I think that reflects the relative interest levels quite well.
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Ashes thread on 22:49 - Dec 21 with 325 viewsdaveB

It's been a real disapointment, wonder what the fall out will be. Do we rip it all up and start again or learn from this and continue with the same people. I guess a lot will depend on how the last 2 tests go although I thought we played alright in this one, just a little bit short in the first innings really, another 50/60 runs and that might have made a real difference.

Aussies were excellent though and full deerve the win, their bowling has been outstanding
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Ashes thread on 11:15 - Dec 22 with 201 viewsGaryBannister86

Ashes thread on 22:49 - Dec 21 by daveB

It's been a real disapointment, wonder what the fall out will be. Do we rip it all up and start again or learn from this and continue with the same people. I guess a lot will depend on how the last 2 tests go although I thought we played alright in this one, just a little bit short in the first innings really, another 50/60 runs and that might have made a real difference.

Aussies were excellent though and full deerve the win, their bowling has been outstanding


Now the dust has settled, I don't see the point in just ripping it all up and starting again. How about we use all the learnings so that we can get the urn back in 2027, rather than start on yet another cycle.

Especially as McCullum and Stokes appear to have taken on board some of the issues.
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Ashes thread on 17:25 - Dec 22 with 73 viewsR_from_afar

Ashes thread on 11:15 - Dec 22 by GaryBannister86

Now the dust has settled, I don't see the point in just ripping it all up and starting again. How about we use all the learnings so that we can get the urn back in 2027, rather than start on yet another cycle.

Especially as McCullum and Stokes appear to have taken on board some of the issues.


I'm with you and Dave B, give the current setup a chance to tweak things.

As Dave rightly says, the team changed their approach to batting in the third test and reined in the attack attack attack mindset, although the damage had already been done in the first two tests, unfortunately.

"Things had started becoming increasingly desperate at Loftus Road but QPR have been handed a massive lifeline and the place has absolutely erupted. it's carnage. It's bedlam. It's 1-1."

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