| Kone 22:49 - Nov 22 with 6569 views | EN_Ranger |
No doubt that he’s a really good player, have to remind myself of his age sometimes as he’s still young and discovering the Championship.
But…I don’t understand why he plays so deep, he’s not a 10 he’s a 9, get in the box!
Whether it’s the tactics or his game, it’s not where he should be playing and despite his great start with us, he’s been floating around in the wrong areas of the pitch for 2 months now.
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| Kone on 22:56 - Nov 22 with 4979 views | Firehoop |
Totally agree , he is still learning but playing to deep. | | | |
| Kone on 22:56 - Nov 22 with 4966 views | Northolt_Rs |
100%. Looks like he’s been told to sit deeper. He desperately needs a goal and I’m sure it’s coming soon.🤞🏻 |  |
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| Kone on 23:06 - Nov 22 with 4923 views | numptydumpty |
From where i was sitting, looked to be more in a two up top today. I think his instructions previously have been more to be playing in a ten position, slightly behind.
Thought he was ok today and would have scored when free and umarked, with wide open goal to find from six yards out, but Burrell shot from an acute angle, instead of squaring the ball to his mate. [Post edited 22 Nov 23:07]
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| Kone on 23:10 - Nov 22 with 4890 views | kensalriser |
Well we had conceded earlier from an identical position so it wasn't entirely unreasonable. |  |
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| Kone on 00:26 - Nov 23 with 4653 views | eghamranger |
Better than Kelman….
I see he wasn’t even on the bench today, unless injured of course |  | | |
| Kone on 06:04 - Nov 23 with 4359 views | silky |
Think we should be alternating between Burrell and Kone to be honest. Not game by game but at least in game.
Will give both a chance to not be so reliant on both but give us something different up there when the game needs it and get a proper number 10 in there instead. |  |
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| Kone on 07:37 - Nov 23 with 4208 views | ingeminate |
| Kone on 06:04 - Nov 23 by silky |
Think we should be alternating between Burrell and Kone to be honest. Not game by game but at least in game.
Will give both a chance to not be so reliant on both but give us something different up there when the game needs it and get a proper number 10 in there instead. |
Burrell is unstoppable. Stretches play, offers an out and crucially keeps scoring. |  |
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| Kone on 08:18 - Nov 23 with 4112 views | stevec |
It’s tough watching Kone.
I like him and imagine he was meant to be our main man up front with Burrell finding his way from the subs bench, but he’s turned out to be far better than we could have hoped and importantly, happy to let the likes of Chair and Dembele do their own thing and maybe occasionally think of passing to him, suits the teams style.
Whilst that works it’s killing Kone’s career here. The fella is superb at losing defenders when he’s in the area, you can’t teach that he’s just got it. Could have had two yesterday if others looked up. But they don’t, I think, because this team is just not conditioned to do it.
We’re not going to change our shape it seems, and we won’t be playing open sides like Hull most weeks. We need a plan B for the savvy sides and that’s when we need Kone up front. |  | | |
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| Kone on 08:53 - Nov 23 with 3993 views | dmm |
| Kone on 08:18 - Nov 23 by stevec |
It’s tough watching Kone.
I like him and imagine he was meant to be our main man up front with Burrell finding his way from the subs bench, but he’s turned out to be far better than we could have hoped and importantly, happy to let the likes of Chair and Dembele do their own thing and maybe occasionally think of passing to him, suits the teams style.
Whilst that works it’s killing Kone’s career here. The fella is superb at losing defenders when he’s in the area, you can’t teach that he’s just got it. Could have had two yesterday if others looked up. But they don’t, I think, because this team is just not conditioned to do it.
We’re not going to change our shape it seems, and we won’t be playing open sides like Hull most weeks. We need a plan B for the savvy sides and that’s when we need Kone up front. |
I agree, Steve. Kone's abilities are going to waste at the moment. The problem is Burrell's current knack of scoring and Stephan isn't likely to change things while Burrell's form continues.
The only way I can imagine Kone taking the lead striker's role is to move Burrell out wide but he would then take the place of one of our mighty midgets, and they are playing well at the moment. Either that or benching Burrell and bringing him on later in the game against a tiring defence.
So I think we'll have to wait until Burrell stops scoring to see a change. |  | | |
| Kone on 09:17 - Nov 23 with 3907 views | Wilkinswatercarrier |
| Kone on 23:06 - Nov 22 by numptydumpty |
From where i was sitting, looked to be more in a two up top today. I think his instructions previously have been more to be playing in a ten position, slightly behind.
Thought he was ok today and would have scored when free and umarked, with wide open goal to find from six yards out, but Burrell shot from an acute angle, instead of squaring the ball to his mate. [Post edited 22 Nov 23:07]
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Agree, definitely not playing as deep as before and did better at holding the ball up and laying off than previous games.
As we are incapable of winning with more possession Burrell is essential for the counter attack, so can't imagine JS will change it.
Kone will start scoring again, he's in the right positions, just needs one to go in off his backside and he'll be fine.
One other thing, like Eze with us, Kone was the main man at Wycombe but he's gone up a level, so a short term drop off as he finds his feet is inevitable. He'll also, like Eze at Palace, become much more of a team player.
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| Kone on 09:31 - Nov 23 with 3854 views | WestonsuperR |
Looks a little unfit, suspiciously slow. We got a bit carried away with him early, he’s got a long way to go to make it as a good Championship Striker, totally understand the big step up and can definitely see potential though. |  | | |
| Kone on 12:09 - Nov 23 with 3640 views | Lblock |
I’m yet to be fully on board the Kone Express and have said before people were going too OTT too early in his career here.
That includes the club.
I mean four goals shouldn’t really justify a 40 minute pitch side stroll with Charlie Austin being interviewed about your journey to the top. It struck me as a bit overly self serving as I’d not seen him dominate a game, I still haven’t.
Likewise there were a few comparisons to Sir Les. No chance. Kone looks miles away from the pace, power, shooting and heading ability even a raw Les had.
It looks to me like we’ve bought another decent square peg and we’re trying to shove it onto a round hole. He needs to be the point striker or not on the pitch.
Never looks happy out there and it’s the third game in a row I’ve seen pass him by where his notable contributions to me (last two home games) have been to start the moves on halfway line that have led to opposition goals.
Agree with others that I’d take him out of the starting 11 for a few games.
I like Chair in the 10 “hole” and that then allows Saito or Smyth to take a wide position.
Maybe they’re not doing that as it removes a bit of height and muscle (Christknows we need that) but at home I’d certainly go with that.
Burrell is unstoppable.
Love his attitude and he is such an outlet.
Really grabbed his chance here and I can see him going for millions if he gets double figures this season and next.
Glad to see Kolli get a run yesterday.
Gutted his slotted shot didn’t nestle in the net
I’d still take another striker next window - who wouldn’t?! - especially if Frey is done. |  |
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| Kone on 12:38 - Nov 23 with 3525 views | dmm |
I agree with most of that, Lblock, but I'm not sure about bringing in a new striker in January. Kone has enough about him to suggest he can become a decent Championship striker. Stephan just needs to find a system that works for him and Burrell. | | | |
| Kone on 13:58 - Nov 23 with 3338 views | NorthantsHoop |
| Kone on 09:31 - Nov 23 by WestonsuperR |
Looks a little unfit, suspiciously slow. We got a bit carried away with him early, he’s got a long way to go to make it as a good Championship Striker, totally understand the big step up and can definitely see potential though. |
I agree, but yesterday he did look better than in previous home matches. Think we should go with Burrell and Kolli up top at Blackburn with Kone as option off the bench. Burrell has been a fantastic signing and is getting vital goals and looks a real bargain at £1m. Kone will come good but needs probably a spark to get him going, and possibly some intense fitness work to sharpen him up. |  | | |
| Kone on 14:07 - Nov 23 with 3290 views | Watford_Ranger |
The guy was playing at a very low level just 18 months or so ago. It’ll take time. Hopefully the Kolli situation is fully resolved and, less likely, Frey stops playing with a fridge on his back and we’ll be less dependent on him. | | | |
| Kone on 14:16 - Nov 23 with 3254 views | Burnleyhoop |
Personally, I would drop Kone. I don’t really see what he is contributing if he is not scoring. No pace, touch not great and not great in the air either. If we hadn’t seen him score a few at the start of the season, we would consider him no better than Celar.
He is either bang out of form, playing out of his favoured position or hasn’t adapted to his surroundings and team mates yet. Plenty of time for him to find his feet, but now is perhaps the moment to give Kolli a run out, who’s all round game looks better than Kone’s.
Burrell is undroppable. Makes a huge difference having pace and work rate at the top end. | | | |
| Kone on 15:32 - Nov 23 with 3093 views | baz_qpr |
Kolli and Burrell as a pair yesterday was very dynamic however whilst Kone is off the boil at the moment (and overthinking IMHO) he did make some important contributions in the build up play. Would definitely like to see more of `Burrell and Kolli against the right opposition |  | | |
| Kone on 16:06 - Nov 23 with 2984 views | FDC |
| Kone on 14:16 - Nov 23 by Burnleyhoop |
Personally, I would drop Kone. I don’t really see what he is contributing if he is not scoring. No pace, touch not great and not great in the air either. If we hadn’t seen him score a few at the start of the season, we would consider him no better than Celar.
He is either bang out of form, playing out of his favoured position or hasn’t adapted to his surroundings and team mates yet. Plenty of time for him to find his feet, but now is perhaps the moment to give Kolli a run out, who’s all round game looks better than Kone’s.
Burrell is undroppable. Makes a huge difference having pace and work rate at the top end. |
I don't know, we were all saying that Kone looked like it had the whole package at the start of the season, good touch, positional awareness etc etc. But he does look frustrated at the moment, noticed his reaction when Burrell shot near post rather than cross to him at the far post on the highlights (probably wrong decision to go near post, but the cross to Kone was far from clear cut).
Bit early to be writing him off (and rewriting history) imo. I think this is more a case of managing him better, and recognizing that the position we're asking him to play is holding him back. What the answer is I'm not sure, given Burrell's form. |  | | |
| Kone on 16:29 - Nov 23 with 2918 views | hoops_legend |
I think stick with him. Hes shown hes got the ability and hes different to other options we have. He is helping Burrell excel in my opinion
Frey shouldnt be in the picture so its really only Kolli apart from that and i would have him tptate with Kone and Burrell |  |
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| Kone on 16:55 - Nov 23 with 2864 views | Wilkinswatercarrier |
I really don't understand some supporters. 16 games in and some calling for him to be dropped and he doesn't do anything if he's not scoring, no pace, not a fan etc etc. Booing in the stadium next?
He's 22yo and stepped up a division so there are going to be up and downs. | |
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| Kone on 16:58 - Nov 23 with 2854 views | Northernr |
| Kone on 14:16 - Nov 23 by Burnleyhoop |
Personally, I would drop Kone. I don’t really see what he is contributing if he is not scoring. No pace, touch not great and not great in the air either. If we hadn’t seen him score a few at the start of the season, we would consider him no better than Celar.
He is either bang out of form, playing out of his favoured position or hasn’t adapted to his surroundings and team mates yet. Plenty of time for him to find his feet, but now is perhaps the moment to give Kolli a run out, who’s all round game looks better than Kone’s.
Burrell is undroppable. Makes a huge difference having pace and work rate at the top end. |
But is Burrell perhaps scoring because we’ve got 2 strikers up there occupying defenders? Would he be scoring if he was playing as a one?
I’m pretty happy with how it’s going up there tbh. |  | | |
| Kone on 17:05 - Nov 23 with 2821 views | 89_50 |
I'm not concerned at present. We must remember he's still just 22 years old and he's only had two seasons of professional football.
While he started so strongly and rode the wave of positivity around his arrival, he was always going to need a period of adjustment at this level.
He's proving a handful and his presence definitely helps Burrell find space. |  | | |
| Kone on 17:32 - Nov 23 with 2713 views | VancouverHoop |
Didn't Koné have dead period at Wycombe too?
He's clearly got scoring chops, but come an awful long way in a short time in both life and football. He needs to be patient, as does the club and supporters. | | | |
| Kone on 17:44 - Nov 23 with 2653 views | Wilkinswatercarrier |
| Kone on 16:58 - Nov 23 by Northernr |
But is Burrell perhaps scoring because we’ve got 2 strikers up there occupying defenders? Would he be scoring if he was playing as a one?
I’m pretty happy with how it’s going up there tbh. |
Kòne attracts a lot of defenders, probably due to last season and his early form this. It'll switch and they'll start doubling up on Burrell instead giving Kòne more space and time.
We have two good strikers. It's quite emotional. | |
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| Kone on 17:55 - Nov 23 with 2609 views | Northernr |
| Kone on 17:44 - Nov 23 by Wilkinswatercarrier |
Kòne attracts a lot of defenders, probably due to last season and his early form this. It'll switch and they'll start doubling up on Burrell instead giving Kòne more space and time.
We have two good strikers. It's quite emotional. |
That’s how I see it as well. That missed header and Burrell close range shot early in yesterday’s game a good example. | | | |
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